2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ELM327

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

PS or not he is still a fat tub of lard who struggles to walk down a ramp and who wears more makeup than a drag queen. how is that traditional masculinity?

So you can insult trumps physical appearance, but anyone daring to criticize Michelle Obama in the same way or use Joe's nickname gets banned?


#leftism

namloc1980

ELM327 wrote: »

I think the confusion is the US is a net exporter of petroleum products (eg Gasoline/petrol) but a net importer by 2m barrels of raw crude



https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=42735

Trump claims energy independence to rile up the base. It's at best a misleading claim designed to lead people to an inaccurate conclusion.

Tigerbaby

Carfacemandog wrote: »

The protests and riots are not only the largest in American history, they have the support of the public across almost every demographic. Just because his base hate the idea of protesting on an issue like this, whether it be peaceful or otherwise (and the reactions to Colin Kaepernick in the NFL and now the NBA boycotts shows up the lie that they would be ok with peaceful protest), it doesn't do anything to change that.

If Trump thinks his efforts to emulate China's response to the Hong Kong protests, he is in for a rude awakening. It appears those around him have long since copped on to this too, hence their efforts to dismantle the postal services ability to sort and deliver mail in ballots instead.

Why would his base hate peaceful protest that promulgate equal rights? This is a nonsensical statement. Trump supporters and Republicans in general are avowed to upholding the Constitution.

How can you make the incredible jump in comparing China's virtual annexation of Hong Kong's legal system to Trump sending in Federal support to maintain Law and Order? Trump only ordered this after Democrat Mayors abrogated their responsibilties and duties.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

So you can insult trumps physical appearance, but anyone daring to criticize Michelle Obama in the same way or use Joe's nickname gets banned?


#leftism

i was responding to one of your fellow travelers who described him as traditionally masculine. do you think he is traditionally masculine? is it traditionally masculine to wear more makeup than a drag queen?

Polar101

namloc1980 wrote: »

Easily impressed aren't we. Basically Trump's & the RNC message was: things are really terrible in many parts of the country and I couldn't do anything to solve those problems in the last 4 years but give me 4 more years anyway because none of the problems are my fault.

If he gave a truthful account of his term, not many people would vote for him. So it makes more sense to pretend to run as a new candidate who will fix the mess (created by him).

Gruffalux

Injuryprone wrote: »

Care to explain how re-electing DT is going to improve things.

It probably won't although I can see the point of sending in reinforcements to areas being burned by bored and neurotic frat kids high on the stink of idiotic identity politics.
Biden winning would be like rewarding screaming toddlers. But there is a big part of me hopes he wins so the Dems have to deal with the idiocy they have fostered whereby college dorms are going back to racial segregation, people can be mobbed in public if they do not kneel or raise a fist, and big strapping boys will be beating the girls in athletics and taking their scholarships.

ELM327

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i was responding to one of your fellow travelers who described him as traditionally masculine. do you think he is traditionally masculine? is it traditionally masculine to wear more makeup than a drag queen?

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

so you think wearing makeup is traditionally masculine? is there any depth to which you wont sink in order to defend trump?

Timberrrrrrrr

Gruffalox wrote: »

It probably won't although I can see the point of sending in reinforcements to areas being burned by bored and neurotic frat kids high on the stink of idiotic identity politics.
Biden winning would be like rewarding screaming toddlers. But there is a big part of me hopes he wins so the Dems have to deal with the idiocy they have fostered whereby college dorms are going back to racial segregation, people can be mobbed in public if they do not kneel or raise a fist, and big strapping boys will be beating the girls in athletics and taking their scholarships.

Aren't all these things happening right now? On Trumps watch?

Timberrrrrrrr

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

Really? Take a walk down the street, how many elderly/retired male Builders, Mechanics, Soldiers, office workers, Retail workers, Police/fire/paramedics will you see wearing thick make up while going about thier business?

Face it, Tan in a can man is vain and not very "masculine" at all.

Gruffalux

This BS inserted about traditional masculinity or feminity is ridiculous. Melania is not elegant because she is a traditionalist. She has great genes. She is undeniably gorgeous however shallow that may be. My point was mainly the completely psychopathic hysteria about her aesthetic both personally and in the wider sphere has been hilarious. The same people would be drooling over people on "their side" who did the same as her. The point is the whole derangement in general commentary. Both sides have so many vile people making commentary. It is all disgusting

namloc1980

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

Oh man that is absolutely hilarious. An order man wearing heavy makeup and fake tan is now "a typical masculine value of clinging to youth"!! Funniest post I've seen in a long time :pac:

baaba maal

Gruffalox wrote: »

It probably won't although I can see the point of sending in reinforcements to areas being burned by bored and neurotic frat kids high on the stink of idiotic identity politics.
Biden winning would be like rewarding screaming toddlers. But there is a big part of me hopes he wins so the Dems have to deal with the idiocy they have fostered whereby college dorms are going back to racial segregation, people can be mobbed in public if they do not kneel or raise a fist, and big strapping boys will be beating the girls in athletics and taking their scholarships.

The issues you raise as being the ones most pertinent after the election mark you out as somebody who is equally submerged into identity politics.

Timberrrrrrrr

namloc1980 wrote: »

Oh man that is absolutely hilarious. An order man wearing heavy makeup and fake tan is now "a typical masculine value of clinging to youth"!! Funniest post I've seen in a long time :pac:

How old does one have to be before its OK to wear thick fake tan to have typical masculine values?

Asking for a friend

ELM327

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you think wearing makeup is traditionally masculine? is there any depth to which you wont sink in order to defend trump?

No.

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

In fairness, what you're describing is a man who's trying to compensate for his vulnerabilities or having a midlife crisis. And Trump has been tanning up for decades.. It's extreme vanity.

ELM327 wrote: »

No.

Thanks for confirming.

ohnonotgmail

Gruffalox wrote: »

This BS inserted about traditional masculinity or feminity is ridiculous. Melania is not elegant because she is a traditionalist. She has great genes. She is undeniably gorgeous however shallow that may be. My point was mainly the completely psychopathic hysteria about her aesthetic both personally and in the wider sphere has been hilarious. The same people would be drooling over people on "their side" who did the same as her. The point is the whole derangement in general commentary. Both sides have so many vile people making commentary. It is all disgusting

it was a trump supporter who brought it up. another example of the ridiculous cultist behaviour from trump supporters.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

No.

i didnt think there was a depth you wouldn't sink to to defend trump but very honest of you to confirm it.

mcmoustache

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

It's the birther stuff. Thinking that it's about her beauty and intelligence is childish. Think about it to yourself for a minute.

Leroy42

Gruffalox wrote: »

This BS inserted about traditional masculinity or feminity is ridiculous. Melania is not elegant because she is a traditionalist. She has great genes. She is undeniably gorgeous however shallow that may be. My point was mainly the completely psychopathic hysteria about her aesthetic both personally and in the wider sphere has been hilarious. The same people would be drooling over people on "their side" who did the same as her. The point is the whole derangement in general commentary. Both sides have so many vile people making commentary. It is all disgusting

I have no issue with Melania's looks, what she wears etc. I see her as simply doing a job (that she and no other person really should be expected to do) but a tradition that becoming POTUS means that your partner then becomes important.

Where I have an issue with Melania is her clear hypocrisy. She goes on about Be Best, yet her husband belittles people. SHe scorns on line abuse, yet says nothing when her husband retweets conspiracy theories and abuses people online.

She says the country needs an honest president, while saying Trump is the best man for the job - he even lies to her - how she has any faith in him is beyond me so why is she asking others to believe him.

We had Trump blame HC in 2016 for standing by her man after he had affairs, and yet we are supposed to believe anything that Melania says when she stands up for Trump?

Gruffalux

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it was a trump supporter who brought it up. another example of the ridiculous cultist behaviour from trump supporters.

I know it was a Trump supporter who brought it up. But you did not believe me when I said I would not vote Trump.
It is all vile. Last week Kamala believed the women who said Joe copped a feel until he offered her a bite of his hamburger. The Dems had a chance to be truly radical. Gabbard, Yang. That would have been exciting and inspiring. But nope. Couldn't give a shyte what happens to them now. They will get what they deserve either way.They made their graffiti-ruined fire-bombed bed. Their neurosis from wearing knitted vaginas on their heads( and then having existential crises about the poor women without vaginas who were thus left out) to cheering on looters like proud parents will reward them.

mcmoustache

namloc1980 wrote: »

The fake tan and makeup screams traditional masculinity alright. The knots you Trumpists tie yourselves in must be absolutely exhausting.

Yep. Super macho.

Gruffalux

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Aren't all these things happening right now? On Trumps watch?

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

mcmoustache

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

Erm, that kind of thing is widely considered pathetic.

Timberrrrrrrr

Gruffalox wrote: »

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

But Don said

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776?s=20

namloc1980

Gruffalox wrote: »

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

Nothing to do with Trump right? So why is he the man to fix it and why will things get worse under Biden (as almost all speakers at the RNC claimed) if these issues are purely local or state issues and nothing to do with the President?

Billy Mays

The clapping seals are in fine form this morning


Traditional masculinity ffs :pac: :pac: :pac:

mcmoustache

Gruffalox wrote: »

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

You're hardly going to have a large protest in Buttfúck, Alabama now are you?

Protests happen in urban areas because, well, surely you can figure out why.

Timberrrrrrrr

Billy Mays wrote: »

The clapping seals are in fine form this morning


Traditional masculinity ffs :pac: :pac: :pac:

The poster has already admitted there isn't a depth he wont sink to to defend dear leader, that's what you're up against in this thread

Tigerbaby

Tell me how wrote: »

Did you miss the 4200 posts when you rocked in here to instigate a debate?

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I did miss that extended tennis rally. Thank you for the kind question though.

Is it ok if I make some cogent and intelligent points or should I just cancel myself now?