2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Leroy42

Gruffalox wrote: »

Libya was a starter but then he thought whoops and withdrew to leave it descend into the chaos it knows now. For example.

So you think that Obama started a war in Libya? Is that really what you are posting here?

Then, under that logic, Trump started a war in Syria when he fired those missiles.

Timberrrrrrrr

WrenBoy wrote: »

Been mentioned before Im sure but he hasn't had very PC views on race relations or integration evidenced back in the late 70's basically saying that busing for the purpose of desegregation would cause his children to ‘grow up in a racial jungle.

Got the Quote, "Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point."

And on the other hand we have Trump sued for refusing to rent to black people.

Gruffalux

Leroy42 wrote: »

So we have an accusation, which Biden has said is untrue but that she should lay out her evidence so that he can deal with it.

ON the other hand you have Trump, who on one, I repeat one of the accusations, restored that the women was too ugly for him so it could be dismissed!

But you equate Biden with Trump? One has multiple accusations, including raping his own wife, we know he paid off a porn star and a Plyboy model to keep quite about extra martial affairs.

But to you they are the same?

I never excused Trump for anything. People seem to have reading difficulties. You asked for an example of Biden doing what you say Trump does and I gave an example of one of many women who say he molested them, in this particular incidence raping her with his finger. But the Biden boys don't believe her. Anyway I have work to do. Best of luck with your lousy lad. May one of the two elderly groping lousers win!

Quin_Dub

Seriously - If I had a euro from every person that came on here and started a post with "I'm no Trump Supporter but...." I wouldn't be buying tickets for the Euromillions tonight.

"I'm not a Trump Supporter but..."

"I've never voted for Sinn Fein but...."

"I've nothing against Travellers but..."

"I'm not a racist, but...."

Gruffalux

Leroy42 wrote: »

So you think that Obama started a war in Libya? Is that really what you are posting here?

Then, under that logic, Trump started a war in Syria when he fired those missiles.

He fired missiles into Libya. Even he describes it as the worst mistake of his presidency because of the fall out. A lìttle war or shall we call it limited aggressions for newspeak. Under his govt the US also supported the proxy war in Yemen.

Gruffalux

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Seriously - If I had a euro from every person that came on here and started a post with "I'm no Trump Supporter but...." I wouldn't be buying tickets for the Euromillions tonight.

"I'm not a Trump Supporter but..."

"I've never voted for Sinn Fein but...."

"I've nothing against Travellers but..."

"I'm not a racist, but...."

You might have 17 euros or so. Keep on buying the lotto tickets and write a novel using all your spare hyperbole.

Leroy42

Gruffalox wrote: »

I never excused Trump for anything. People seem to have reading difficulties. You asked for an example of Biden doing what you say Trump does and I gave an example of one of many women who say he molested them, in this particular incidence raping her with his finger. But the Biden boys don't believe her. Anyway I have work to do. Best of luck with your lousy lad. May one of the two elderly groping lousers win!

This is your post;

Gruffalox wrote: »

You obviously do not read very well. I have no devotion to Trump. I don't watch tv, never seen a youtube of him, catch up on the very odd article here and there. Don't give a flying fcuk about him, but the anthropological observation is interesting. I do notice he did not start overseas wars. Unlike Obama. But anyway.

And if you are looking for projection from back in 2016...sorry, that is just too funny.

So you openly admit that you know nothing of Trump, have no opinions of him but are certain that he didn't start any wars unlike that Obama guy.

It turns out that you are wrong in that, Omaba certainly didn't end any wars but he didn't start any either.

So how should we take a post that starts of saying that you want to avoid talking about anything and about Trump, on the basis that you have been apparently under a rock for 4 years, but that Obama guy was awful?
In a thread where it is one of two candidates, excusing one through ignorance is very similar to excusing that person.

And again, since it is a two horse race, comparisons are very important. Neither are perfect, so it comes down to how dirty one os compared to the other.

You have produced one allegation, which has never gone anywhere, whilst I have given you two examples, admitted (after much lying) by Trump.

So on the one hand you have a man with multiples accusations and a known liar and history of infedelity and cover up, against a man with one accussation.

You seem to want to tree them equally.

relax carry on

Jesus, I heard some of Trumps speech and all I could think of was that hypnotic drone you used to get from the priest on Sunday. It was like his batteries were running out.

Leroy42

Gruffalox wrote: »

He fired missiles into Libya. Even he describes it as the worst mistake of his presidency because of the fall out. A lìttle war or shall we call it limited aggressions for newspeak. Under his govt the US also supported the proxy war in Yemen.

Fine, but then you agree that Trump started a war with Syria?

Because Trump fired missiles, which I know is news to you since you know nothing of Trump.

ELM327

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Seriously - If I had a euro from every person that came on here and started a post with "I'm no Trump Supporter but...." I wouldn't be buying tickets for the Euromillions tonight.

"I'm not a Trump Supporter but..."

"I've never voted for Sinn Fein but...."

"I've nothing against Travellers but..."

"I'm not a racist, but...."

I am a Trump supporter
I've never voted SF and never will.
I do have something against Travellers as they robbed our house.
I am not racist.

namloc1980

Gruffalox wrote: »

He fired missiles into Libya. Even he describes it as the worst mistake of his presidency because of the fall out. A lìttle war or shall we call it limited aggressions for newspeak. Under his govt the US also supported the proxy war in Yemen.

Meanwhile the peaceful president has continued to launch large numbers of drone strikes in Yemen and massively expanded drone strikes in Somalia but changed the law to avoid having to publicly report on these strikes and civilian deaths from those drone strikes. He also agreed massive arms sales to Saudi Arabia for them to use in their brutal war on Yemen. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trump-escalates-killer-drone-war-and-no-one-seems-to-care/

Gruffalux

That's okay. On ye go. Act aĺl morally superior like there is a clash going on between good and evil and you are on the good guys side. Support the lad who stuck his finger into Tara Reade's vagina when she did not want it. It was probably only the tip. Tis fair enough.

ELM327

Gruffalox wrote: »

That's okay. On ye go. Act aĺl morally superior like there is a clash going on between good and evil and you are on the good guys side. Support the lad who stuck his finger into Tara Reade's vagina when she did not want it. It was probably only the tip. Tis fair enough.

Why is she believed so readily but Biden's accusers are not? Now I'm no cynic....

Biker79

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Traditional masculinity?

How many men do you know that are so vain they plaster on fake tan every day?

You'll find that people who are constantly being photographed and videoed will do exactly this.

It's do to with poor lighting.

When you are as successful as Trump is, at using the media to build himself into a global brand, it comes with the territory.

Wearing TV makeup is about protecting his investment.

Something that commies, by definition, cannot compute. Just like they cannot compute what it is to add value.

baaba maal

ELM327 wrote: »

I am a Trump supporter
I've never voted SF and never will.
I do have something against Travellers as they robbed our house.
I am not racist.

I cant speak for Quin Dub, but I rather suspect the post wasn't aimed at you- at least you are consistent in your views.

Biker79

Biker79 wrote: »

You'll find that people who are constantly being photographed and videoed will do exactly this.

It's do to with poor lighting.

When you are as successful as Trump is, at using the media to build himself into a global brand, it comes with the territory.

Wearing TV makeup is about protecting his investment.

Something that commies, by definition, cannot compute. Just like they cannot compute what it is to add value.

Warren Buffett, George Soros , Bloomberg and Bill Gates are old and incredibly rich. Weirdly none of them are orange and they're all infinitely more successful than Trump.. Ye all seem to be obsessed with justifying the oddest stuff. You'll also find the vast majority of older and incredibly successful actors aren't orange on the average day.

Gerry Hatrick

Deleted User wrote: »

Warren Buffett, George Soros , Bloomberg and Bill Gates are old and incredibly rich. Weirdly none of them are orange and they're all infinitely more successful than Trump.. Ye all seem to be obsessed with justifying the oddest stuff. You'll also find the vast majority of older and incredibly successful actors aren't orange on the average day.

Not in politics they aren't.

Quin_Dub

ELM327 wrote: »

I am a Trump supporter
I've never voted SF and never will.
I do have something against Travellers as they robbed our house.
I am not racist.

To be fair to you ELM - You have always been open and consistent in your opinions.

We might disagree strongly on matters of policy etc. but I do respect that you have firmly held convictions that you are willing to defend.

Biker79

Deleted User wrote: »

Warren Buffett, George Soros , Bloomberg and Bill Gates are old and incredibly rich. Weirdly none of them are orange and they're all infinitely more successful than Trump..

These guys didn't build their profiles with the tabloids. Trump did.

They don't have to deal with papararzzi like Trump does.

Not sure there's anything you can do to improve the face of George Soros...other than apply a brown paper bag.

ohnonotgmail

"I have done more for african americans than any president since lincoln". Has trump heard of Lyndon Johnson?

namloc1980

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Not in politics they aren't.

Never saw either Bush presidents wearing orange fake tan and make up. Don't think Reagan did either? Fairly successful politicians all the same.

namloc1980

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

"I have done more for african americans than any president since lincoln". Has trump heard of Lyndon Johnson?

He's a pathological liar. But if I were to guess I would say Trump has never heard of Johnson.

LuckyLloyd

A large, thin skinned, orange man who can't stride down a ramp is the definition of "masculinity"? lol

Biker79

Biker79 wrote: »

These guys didn't build their profiles with the tabloids. Trump did.

They don't have to deal with papararzzi like Trump does.

Not sure there's anything you can do to improve the face of George Soros...other than apply a brown paper bag.

Robert De niro isn't orange.... You guys have claimed everything from media appearance to him being incredibly masculine as a reason for his pretty bizarre tanning. Kennedy wore fake tan iirc, the specific reason was because his complexion wasn't healthy looking. That's the most likely reason Trump wears it... But far too much of it.

Also Soros is 90, doubt anyone is in the prime of their appearance at that stage.

Biker79

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

A large, thin skinned, orange man who can't stride down a ramp is the definition of "masculinity"? lol

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

joseywhales

Biker79 wrote: »

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

You heard it here first , real men vote for Trump!

Good compliant men.

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

Really?

I find men who aren't masculine will fawn over someone who they see to be superior and more masculine than them, its like the weak kids in the school looking at the school bully in envy wishing they could be like them.

Who would you consider to be non masculine?

namloc1980

Biker79 wrote: »

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

Firstly, can you again explain what is traditionally masculine about a man wearing orange fake tan and heavy makeup?

Secondly, and you've been asked this multiple times, can you show us evidence that the Democrats and Biden are Communists and Marxists? Do you understand what communism and Marxism are?

Quin_Dub

ELM327 wrote: »

Why is she believed so readily but Biden's accusers are not? Now I'm no cynic....

Trump has literally dozens of accusations of Sexual assault and rape, several of which are currently before the courts - or at least heading that direction.

Trump has cheated on all 3 of his wives, has admitted to grabbing women in a sexual manner , has admitted to sleeping with Porn-stars and Playboy models while married. His own wife (Ivana) accused him of physical assault and violent rape.

Joe Biden doesn't have "accusers" he has a single woman making an accusation of sexual assault. Which has been completely denied by Biden and all of his staff and employees from that time. It should absolutely be investigated and Biden has welcomed that investigation should it move forward.

The accusation is completely out of character for a man married to the same women for 45+ years (and but for the tragic death of his 1st wife , he'd likely have been married to the same woman for 50+ years).

There are no reports of Infidelity , no "locker talk" , no pay-offs , no Howard Stern interviews bragging about Sexual exploits.

Trump on the other hand if refusing to engage with any of his multitude of accusers , even refusing to provide evidence that would utterly refute the allegations from the woman if he was innocent.

duploelabs

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Trump has literally dozens of accusations of Sexual assault and rape, several of which are currently before the courts - or at least heading that direction.

Trump has cheated on all 3 of his wives, has admitted to grabbing women in a sexual manner , has admitted to sleeping with Porn-stars and Playboy models while married. His own wife (Ivana) accused him of physical assault and violent rape.

Joe Biden doesn't have "accusers" he has a single woman making an accusation of sexual assault. Which has been completely denied by Biden and all of his staff and employees from that time. It should absolutely be investigated and Biden has welcomed that investigation should it move forward.

The accusation is completely out of character for a man married to the same women for 45+ years (and but for the tragic death of his 1st wife , he'd likely have been married to the same woman for 50+ years).

There are no reports of Infidelity , no "locker talk" , no pay-offs , no Howard Stern interviews bragging about Sexual exploits.

Trump on the other hand if refusing to engage with any of his multitude of accusers , even refusing to provide evidence that would utterly refute the allegations from the woman if he was innocent.

Correction, he has engaged with them. To pay them off or to intimidate them into dropping their cases. As shown by Michael Cohens testimony about Stormy Daniels and Jane Doe l, the latter was under aged when Trump raped her claiming 'he could do anything he wanted'. Certainly a true masculine alpha man