2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Gerry Hatrick

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1299923590410690562?s=20

Trump is up nationally and in battlegrounds, we all know polls aren't always reliable but it ain't looking good for Biden at the moment.

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

MadYaker

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

This is so transparent. You're new here (or are you?), we've seen this a million times from different people on this thread over the last few years. You're not in the slightest bit torn.

dwayneshintzy

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

She wasn't; as I linked earlier in the thread, Clinton was up 3.9% on the day of the election according to 538 and she wont the popular vote by 2.1%. That is within the margin of error.


The Democracy Institute poll linked above is not a serious poll.

MadYaker

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

She wasn't; as I linked earlier in the thread, Clinton was up 3.9% on the day of the election according to 538 and she wont the popular vote by 2.1%. That is within the margin of error.


The Democracy Institute poll linked above is not a serious poll.

The poster you're replying to is most likely well aware of this.

extra gravy

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Please look back at my posts in question. I stated in a big black font that nobody deserved to die. I was specifically exploring the idea that he was defending himself.


Again, I put it in big black letters in order to avoid accusations like the above. But sure, ignore it if it suits you.

"Two dead bad guys and dude who was pointing a a gun at the kid loses half his arm. No stray rounds. Damn fine shooting if you ask me."

From a post you thanked. Usually people thank posts that they agree with.

LessOutragePlz

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

Yeah very true part of me wants Trump to win just see the meltdown that would occur here and on other media outlets, they're both sh1te candidates IMO. It's like that episode of south park where they have to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich .

MadYaker

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Yeah very true part of me wants Trump to win just see the meltdown that would occur here and on other media outlets, they're both sh1te candidates IMO. It's like that episode of south park where they have to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich .

There wouldn't actually be a melt down on here, there'll be one on r/politics on reddit alright but we watch for entertainment purposes only. The US president has little no actual effect on my life.

The real crying will come when Trump loses. Then the fun will really start. You can already see him laying the ground work saying he's facing a rigged election etc. Should be mighty craic.

Igotadose

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Please look back at my posts in question. I stated in a big black font that nobody deserved to die. I was specifically exploring the idea that he was defending himself.

Doesn't matter. Not a 'stand your ground' state. He can't shoot anyone. Period. No ifs, ands, buts.

The police can. He's not a police officer. He's too young.

One of the people he killed, was trying to disarm him after he'd shot someone else. He probably saved other lives.

Direct question - the guy he killed who was trying to disarm him. Is he a hero? Despite previous convictions? Despite being at the protest?

Kidchameleon

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Its up to the debate participants to prove each other wrong, not some team of helpers. It would look very weak on Biden's part to have helpers.

In other words if he can't talk sh1te, trump has nothing.

Another thing some of his supporters on here have in common with him.

Kidchameleon

Igotadose wrote: »

Direct question - the guy he killed who was trying to disarm him. Is he a hero? Despite previous convictions? Despite being at the protest?

Referring to Rosenbaum? He's a pedophile with a history of violence. He was filmed actively seeking to be shot moments before the incident. He's not my idea of a hero, no.


*Disclaimer* He did not deserve to be shot IMHO.

LessOutragePlz

DubInMeath wrote: »

In other words if he can't talk sh1te, trump has nothing.

Another thing some of his supporters on here have in common with him.

I mean it would be impossible to fact check if Trump has Made America Great Again because it is subjective.

Plenty think he hasn't but some think he has or at least believe he's done enough to warrant another 4 years as president.

If they did use fact checkers then who would fact check the fact checkers? because I'm sure that will be the first thing out of Trump's mouth if the plan is even considered.

Igotadose

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Referring to Rosenbaum? He's a pedophile with a history of violence. He was filmed actively seeking to be shot moments before the incident. He's not my idea of a hero, no.


*Disclaimer* He did not deserve to be shot IMHO.

Anthony Huber. Was he a hero for attempting to disarm Rittenhouse? Would you have had his courage at that time?

Overheal

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Referring to Rosenbaum? He's a pedophile with a history of violence. He was filmed actively seeking to be shot moments before the incident. He's not my idea of a hero, no.


*Disclaimer* He did not deserve to be shot IMHO.

Is a woman beater your idea of a hero though?

Carfacemandog

Overheal wrote: »

Is a woman beater your idea of a hero though?

Woman beater, and co defendent with Jeffrey Epstein in a child rape case.

Kidchameleon

Igotadose wrote: »

Anthony Huber. Was he a hero for attempting to disarm Rittenhouse? Would you have had his courage at that time?

He too was a dirtbag. Not a hero IMHO. Most likly looking for trouble.

Overheal

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Woman beater, and co defendent with Jeffrey Epstein in a child rape case.

Well I meant Rittenhouse but yes I often forget Trump is a woman beater.

relax carry on

Jesus Christ, the insanity of citizens of a supposed first world democratic society walking around armed with guns and killing people on the street is now considered behaviour worthy of defense by posters who support Trump's never ending con.

A child decided to arm himself, take to the streets and shoot strangers. In what way is this normal behaviour worthy of defense?

LessOutragePlz

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I mean it would be impossible to fact check if Trump has Made America Great Again because it is subjective.

Plenty think he hasn't but some think he has or at least believe he's done enough to warrant another 4 years as president.

If they did use fact checkers then who would fact check the fact checkers? because I'm sure that will be the first thing out of Trump's mouth if the plan is even considered.

In other words just as I said.

Timberrrrrrrr

relax carry on wrote: »

Jesus Christ, the insanity of citizens of a supposed first world democratic society walking around armed with guns and killing people on the street is now considered behaviour worthy of defense by posters who support Trump's never ending con.

A child decided to arm himself, take to the streets and shoot strangers. In what way is this normal behaviour worthy of defense?

Because in that basket case country it is normal, This time a child armed himself and killed strangers on the street, next time it will be a child who arms himself and walks into a school and kills his classmates. It barely makes the news and it's forgotten about two days later.

Igotadose

Kidchameleon wrote: »

He too was a dirtbag. Not a hero IMHO. Most likly looking for trouble.

He tackled Rittenhouse after Rittenhouse murdered someone and was being chased. Risked and lost his life. What would you have done in his situation?

francois

relax carry on wrote: »

In what way is this normal behaviour worthy of defense?

It obviously isn't. Just a bunch of alt ****e wind up merchants with multiple accounts. Pointless engaging with them.

LessOutragePlz

relax carry on wrote: »

Jesus Christ, the insanity of citizens of a supposed first world democratic society walking around armed with guns and killing people on the street is now considered behaviour worthy of defense by posters who support Trump's never ending con.

A child decided to arm himself, take to the streets and shoot strangers. In what way is this normal behaviour worthy of defense?

You see you've bought into the narrative that's being pushed by some groups at the moment.

Himself and a friend were helping to protect a local business, in no way did he "take to the streets to shoot strangers" but keep believing that false narrative.

"Later in the day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed by mob violence. The business owner needed help to protect what he had left of his life's work, including two nearby mechanic's shops. Kyle and a friend armed themselves with rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha and many other American cities, and headed to the business premises."

Full statement here:

https://twitter.com/infolibnews/status/1299545139187249153?s=20

Danzy

Whatever about the right or wrong of Kyle's shooting or his character.

We can all surely agree that the world is a nicer and safer place for kids and women now that those 2 pricks are dead.

Professor Moriarty

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

You see you've bought into the narrative that's being pushed by some groups at the moment.

Himself and a friend were helping to protect a local business, in no way did he "take to the streets to shoot strangers" but keep believing that false narrative.

"Later in the day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed by mob violence. The business owner needed help to protect what he had left of his life's work, including two nearby mechanic's shops. Kyle and a friend armed themselves with rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha and many other American cities, and headed to the business premises."

Full statement here:

https://twitter.com/infolibnews/status/1299545139187249153?s=20

Menahan is a far right nutter. WTAF is a 17 year doing defending some randomer's business with a semi automatic rifle?

Take a look in the focking mirror.

Carfacemandog

Danzy wrote: »

Whatever about the right or wrong of Kyle's shooting or his character.

We can all surely agree that the world is a nicer and safer place for kids and women now that those 2 pricks are dead.

By that twisted logic, wouldn't the world be a better place if someone killed the murderer that is Kyle Rittenhouse?

Its a pathetic race to the bottom once you get into the line of thinking where you delight in the deaths of others.

Igotadose

Danzy wrote: »

Whatever about the right or wrong of Kyle's shooting or his character.

We can all surely agree that the world is a nicer and safer place for kids and women now that those 2 pricks are dead.

Nope. Sorry can't agree. As I asked Kidc what would you do in the same situation as Anthony Huber in Kenosha?

LessOutragePlz

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Menahan is a far right nutter. WTAF is a 17 year doing defending some randomer's business with a semi automatic rifle?

Take a look in the focking mirror.

The statement came from his lawyer that Menahan fella just retweeted it.

He was doing his duty as a good American citizen in helping protect a fellow citizen's business and livelihood that was under threat from a violent mob that had already burned down one of his businesses.

Professor Moriarty

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

The statement came from his lawyer that Menahan fella just retweeted it.

He was doing his duty as a good American citizen in helping protect a fellow citizen's business and livelihood that was under threat from a violent mob that had already burned down one of his businesses.

He was 17 with a semi automatic rifle. You're talking rubbish.

Timberrrrrrrr

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

The statement came from his lawyer that Menahan fella just retweeted it.

He was doing his duty as a good American citizen in helping protect a fellow citizen's business and livelihood that was under threat from a violent mob that had already burned down one of his businesses.

But weren't the protesters also his fellow citizens executing their constitutional right to protest?

Carfacemandog

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

The statement came from his lawyer that Menahan fella just retweeted it.

He was doing his duty as a good American citizen in helping protect a fellow citizen's business and livelihood that was under threat from a violent mob that had already burned down one of his businesses.

This then begs the question that if the gun did not cross state lines, which gun owner illegally gave it to him and what can be done to stop this reoccurring as it is clear how easy it is to get a gun in the hands of a child with violent tendencies to kill with.

And it doesn't appear to address the issue of his illegally holding a firearm openly at his age, a which is another question not only he but the police who thanked him for doing so should ha e to answer for.