2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

eeepaulo

da_miser wrote: »

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

da_miser

da_miser wrote: »

Read the CDC report, how many of them where Covid19 only?
As it stands if you have Covid19 and get run over by a truck, its classed as a Covid19 death.

People can see with their own eyes that its no where near as bad as the panic merchants would have you believe, the public are getting on with living their lives, social distancing is on the way out , you dont have to like it but that is the fact, so answer me this, why are we not seeing the death rate rise?
Could it be Covid19 has already burned across the country and killed all its going to kill bar a few stragglers?
The nation was closes when we where getting 10 new infected a day, now we get 150 infected a day and they are opening the schools, do you not think that is strange?

As already pointed out, the fact they had pre-existing conditions does not mean they would be dead even if we didn't have covid. Excess deaths are over two hundred thousand, care to explain that one? Pretty shameful that you're choosing to misrepresent the CDC and ignore the hundreds of thousands who have died that would still be alive today.

ohnonotgmail

a new low, even for the GOP. they manipulated the voice of Ady Barkan to create a fake video.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/30/ady-barkan-scalise-twitter-video/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_politics

Twitter flagged a video shared by the second-ranking House Republican on Saturday as “manipulated,” as it spliced quotes together from an activist who speaks through computer voice assistance, making it sound as though he’d convinced Joe Biden to defund police departments.

“I have lost my ability to speak, but not my agency or my thoughts,” Ady Barkan wrote to Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the House minority whip, in a Sunday tweet. “You and your team have doctored my words for your own political gain. Please remove this video immediately. You owe the entire disability community an apology.”

The dispute came down to two words from an interview Biden gave Barkan at the start of July. Barkan, who has amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), speaks with the use of a device that reads his eye movements and translates them to an artificial voice. The interview, one of many that Barkan had done with Democratic presidential candidates, turned at one point to whether Biden would shift some funding from armed policing to social welfare.

LessOutragePlz

Tell me how wrote: »

That BS might wash on Twitter or at a Trump rally, any person half paying attention will see it for what it is.

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

dwayneshintzy

da_miser wrote: »

then we have San Francisco, its possibly a lost cause, shop lifting is now legal, people are fleeing in droves.

Are you sure you know anything about San Francisco, at all? Apart from the fact that it's a city with a (slight) growth rate, nobody is leaving because of crime. If people are leaving SF, it's almost always because of the high cost of living and ridiculous rents.

ohnonotgmail

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

these are not family members. they are people he hired. he seems to hire a lot of crooks. maybe he is just unlucky?

namloc1980

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a new low, even for the GOP. they manipulated the voice of Ady Barkan to create a fake video.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/30/ady-barkan-scalise-twitter-video/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_politics

They'll go as low as they can. Absolutely disgusting. The "party of christian values". I'm sure the Trumpists will be along soon to defend this.

da_miser

threeball wrote: »

Why don't you go out, lick a few door handles and test your theory.

Why do that when i can go to the pub with friends have a feed of drink and pop next door to the bookies and have a good day out.

Tell me how

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

What happened to 'I hire the best people'?

How can he be considered the 'Law and Order' President when he can't even keep the law within his inner circle?

What about him pardoning Roger Stone who threatened to flip on him?

As for crimes he has been convicted of? How about having to pay fines for misuse of charity funds for a start.
Law and Order President. Should be embarrassed to suggest it.

namloc1980

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

How many crimes has Trump been convicted of?

He's not responsible for the crimes that people commited while working for him or those that he associated with.

Would you blame and ridicule the family of a murderer for a murder that their family member commited which they had nothing to do with?

The best you could say is that it shows an awful poor sense of judgment on Trump's behalf that he keeps hiring criminals and shady characters to job government posts. And that's being kind. If you or I hired criminals in our jobs at the rate Trump does we'd be swiftly given the door.

LessOutragePlz

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

these are not family members. they are people he hired. he seems to hire a lot of crooks. maybe he is just unlucky?

Well he certainly didn't know that they were crooks before he hired them otherwise he wouldn't have hired them.

da_miser

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Are you sure you know anything about San Francisco, at all? Apart from the fact that it's a city with a (slight) growth rate, nobody is leaving because of crime. If people are leaving SF, it's almost always because of the high cost of living and ridiculous rents.

Who is in charge of SF?
Could the city be run by Dems?
Could it be the Dems who legalised shop lifting?
Could it be the city is going to rack and ruin under Dem control?

LessOutragePlz

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Well he certainly didn't know that they were crooks before he hired them otherwise he wouldn't have hired them.

He actively interfered in their investigations and got some of them out of jail....

salmocab

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As already pointed out, the fact they had pre-existing conditions does not mean they would be dead even if we didn't have covid. Excess deaths are over two hundred thousand, care to explain that one? Pretty shameful that you're choosing to misrepresent the CDC and ignore the hundreds of thousands who have died that would still be alive today.

Your arguing with someone that believes in a conspiracy theory. Your absolutely wasting your time as rational points can’t be processed.

ohnonotgmail

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Well he certainly didn't know that they were crooks before he hired them otherwise he wouldn't have hired them.

he knew cohen was a crook. cohen committed his crimes working for trump at trumps request.

dwayneshintzy

da_miser wrote: »

Who is in charge of SF?
Could the city be run by Dems?
Could it be the Dems who legalised shop lifting?
Could it be the city is going to rack and ruin under Dem control?

Prop 47 didn't legalize shoplifting. Prop 47 was also a Californian-wide ballot initiative.

There are huge problems in SF. Most of them are to due with wealth, with high income earners driving everyone else out. Have you lived in San Francisco?

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

Who is in charge of SF?
Could the city be run by Dems?
Could it be the Dems who legalised shop lifting?
Could it be the city is going to rack and ruin under Dem control?

Lies again. Can you show us exactly where "the Dems legalised shop lifting"? Exactly show us that.

WrenBoy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Does this purile messaging actually work you reckon ?

Penn

Trump helps young people.

He's helping Kyle Rittenhouse form a defence for killing two people.

WrenBoy

WrenBoy wrote: »

Does this purile messaging actually work you reckon ?

I know, Trump has an unfortunate tendency to bully and behave in a purile way. Great to see a Trump supporter acknowledging it.

ohnonotgmail

WrenBoy wrote: »

Does this purile messaging actually work you reckon ?

you're not one of those people who think that trump wasn't actually mocking the disabled person?

da_miser

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sure you did. :pac:

I have no reason to lie, Trump will win again and will make me money this November.
Its as good as a sure thing at this stage.

1800_Ladladlad

WrenBoy wrote: »

Does this purile messaging actually work you reckon ?

Simpletons seem to think it does.

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

I have no reason to lie, Trump will win again and will make me money this November.
Its as good as a sure thing at this stage.

Fair Play. Most times you hear people say - I won money on that - it's never actually true.

Tell me how

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Simpletons seem to think it does.

You do know Sean Hannity is an adviser to Trump?

If Fox is the most widely watched cable news network, does that not make it MSM?

Hector Savage

https://twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1300554359412076546?s=20

namloc1980

This is hard to watch. Very embarrassing yet again from Trump. He's now comparing police shooting a man in the back to golfers missing putts. Laura Ingraham did her best to keep him on track. You can imagine what crazy things he'll come out with in the debates without a handler there controlling him.

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da_miser

namloc1980 wrote: »

Lies again. Can you show us exactly where "the Dems legalised shop lifting"? Exactly show us that.

The Dems brought in a law if the value is less than $950 you wont be arrested, as you can imagine chaos

namloc1980

da_miser wrote: »

The Dems brought in a law if the value is less than $950 you wont be arrested, as you can imagine chaos

So they didn't legalize shoplifting so as you claimed?

dwayneshintzy

da_miser wrote: »

The Dems brought in a law if the value is less than $950 you wont be arrested, as you can imagine chaos

Here's prominent Democrat Newt Gingrich with an editorial in support of Prop 47; https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0917-gingrich-prop--47-criminal-justice-20140917-story.html


The actual law is that it was reclassified from a felony to a misdemeanor. It is California-wide, not a San Francisco initiative.