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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    President Trump is arriving in Kenosha soon. I think I speak for all posters here in hoping he stays safe during the visit.

    President Trump set to tour damage, hold round table discussion in Kenosha

    https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/01/trump-kenosha-president-arrive-kenosha-shortly-after-noon/3453917001/

    And I think I speak for all posters here when I say I hope he doesn't feel the compulsion to gas the clergy while he is there, or further support shooting people on the street.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Do you think that helps stabilise the nation? A seventeen year old killed two people last week, his supporters and himself are trying to justify that. Days before he had people speak at the RNC who pointed guns at peaceful protesters. He's actively instigated violence with how he's approached entire situation.

    But sure you're the guy who justifies how peaceful protesters at a church were attacked so he could do a photo op. The priest at the church backs up that they were largely peaceful. The Bishop at the time condemned Trump over it.

    Prominent republicans threatening violence is easy. Here we have then-candidate Trump asking for violence against his opponent, in his best mafia-don style:

    "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said to the crowd of supporters gathered in the Trask Coliseum at North Carolina University in Wilmington. "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

    "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."



    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-2nd-amendment-folks-stop-clintons-supreme-court/story?id=41239648
    --

    Steve King (another prominent Republican GOP member): “One side has about 8 trillion bullets, while the other side doesn’t know which bathroom to use,” states the meme, shared on one of King’s verified Facebook pages.

    “Wonder who would win...” added King, apparently not noticing that his home state was depicted on the losing side.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/steve-king-civil-war-graphic_n_5c8ef5b9e4b03e83bdc25c86
    ---

    It's easy to find this stuff. Just have to google a bit


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Prominent republicans threatening violence is easy. Here we have then-candidate Trump asking for violence against his opponent, in his best mafia-don style:

    "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said to the crowd of supporters gathered in the Trask Coliseum at North Carolina University in Wilmington. "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

    "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."



    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-2nd-amendment-folks-stop-clintons-supreme-court/story?id=41239648
    --

    Steve King (another prominent Republican GOP member): “One side has about 8 trillion bullets, while the other side doesn’t know which bathroom to use,” states the meme, shared on one of King’s verified Facebook pages.

    “Wonder who would win...” added King, apparently not noticing that his home state was depicted on the losing side.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/steve-king-civil-war-graphic_n_5c8ef5b9e4b03e83bdc25c86
    ---

    It's easy to find this stuff. Just have to google a bit

    Steve King lost his primary. Wouldn't really described as a prominent GOP member.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Steve King lost his primary. Wouldn't really described as a prominent GOP member.

    Ah I'd forgotten that. "Former" prominent Republican then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Show me where famous conservatives and Republican members of congress encouraged people to instigate violence on Democrats and suggested that Obama should be assassinated.

    Former Republican Congressman Joe Walsh:

    "This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you."


    Donald Trump (Republican US President):

    "[If Hillary Clinton] gets to pick...her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."

    NRA Member, Republican Top Billing Musician and famous pants shítter Ted Nugent:

    "Obama, he's a piece of ****. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary [Clinton], you might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch."

    In case the above quote is ambiguous...

    "If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Do you think that helps stabilise the nation? A seventeen year old killed two people last week, his supporters and himself are trying to justify that. Days before he had people speak at the RNC who pointed guns at peaceful protesters. He's actively instigated violence with how he's approached entire situation.

    But sure you're the guy who justifies how peaceful protesters at a church were attacked so he could do a photo op. The priest at the church backs up that they were largely peaceful. The Bishop at the time condemned Trump over it.

    The cop who it appears was responsible for Floyd's death was arrested. Trump called for an expedited investigation. There was nothing more that needed to be done. The media deliberately and immediately began to use the man's death as a political weapon and you know it. Nothing the POTUS did was good enough and when it was they spliced it so that the public would think it inadequate and as can be seen from the clip posted the democrats milked it also and encouraged the unrest. This is not President Trump's fault and he has done an excellent job dealing with the riots when he has been allowed to, while simultaneously always making it clear he welcomed genuine peaceful protesting. Time you set your political feelings aside and started to look at the real cause of what is going on right now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    What exactly do you think the President should do to tackle the propaganda and lies of the MSM which has led to the riots and unrest?

    Those shootings that were captured on video didn't happen, I suppose?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,985 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    George Soros?

    Could be Andy Dick back again



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Ah I'd forgotten that. "Former" prominent Republican then.

    The name rang a bell and was curious as to why I hadn't heard anything about him lately. That's was why. I don't see the likes of Laura Loomer taking his place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Show me where famous conservatives and Republican members of congress encouraged people to instigate violence on Democrats and suggested that Obama should be assassinated.

    Trump told police cadets they should not be too nice to suspects and should treat them roughly. He encouraged people at his rallies to beat up protesters. He encouraged armed militias to take over state capitol buildings with his "LIBERATE" nonsense.

    What about Joe Walsh threatening war on Obama?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/joe-walsh-obama-war-tweet/index.html

    Or the main man himself suggesting the 2A people could take care of Hillary



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The cop who it appears was responsible for Floyd's death was arrested. Trump called for an expedited investigation. There was nothing more that needed to be done. The media deliberately and immediately began to use the man's death as a political weapon and you know it. Nothing the POTUS did was good enough and when it was they spliced it so that the public would think it inadequate and as can be seen from the clip posted the democrats milked it also and encouraged the unrest. This is not President Trump's fault and he has done an excellent job dealing with the riots when he has been allowed to, while simultaneously always making it clear he welcomed genuine peaceful protesting. Time you set your political feelings aside and started to look at the real cause of what is going on right now.

    Yesterday he leaped to the defense of a seventeen year old who has been charged with first degree homicide. Seems like a pretty guaranteed way to inflame a situation... Like this is the same guy who still claims the central park five are guilty.

    He's managed to spend 4 years of his presidency egging on white supremacists. He even gave condolences for one the other night while ignoring the people Rittenhouse killed.

    But now your argument seems to hinge on, he can't do anything because of the democrats. In fairness, he probably can't do anything, he couldn't even manage to make a unifying speech at any point during the pandemic. He's basically an inept president.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Not a lot he can do when the cities that are burning are run by democratic mayor's, some of whom are refusing federal assistance.

    I never said that he had such little control but there are some things that he can't control such as the actions of Democratic mayor's in cities that are burning.

    https://twitter.com/StreetVet100/status/1300064323449098242?s=09
    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can you show me a single contemporary news report of rioting taking place in Atlantic City or Phoenix for instance? Don't be lazy and just throw up more Portland stuff. How many of those cities are actually "Rioting Cities"? There an awful smell of BS off that tweet.

    Presume this is to show how bad Democrats are so not sure why Fort Worth is on it - Republican in charge there.

    So any more on this? Evidence of all these "rioting cities" - I mean it should be easy to find right?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    President Trump is arriving in Kenosha soon. I think I speak for all posters here in hoping he stays safe during the visit.

    President Trump set to tour damage, hold round table discussion in Kenosha

    https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/01/trump-kenosha-president-arrive-kenosha-shortly-after-noon/3453917001/
    So far he has insulted the mayor. An inspiration.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    So far he has insulted the mayor. An inspiration.

    he really is the healing president that the US needs right now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    So far he has insulted the mayor. An inspiration.

    He was going there to offer "reassurance" according to a poster here yesterday. Good start!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Trump told police cadets they should not be too nice to suspects and should treat them roughly. He encouraged people at his rallies to beat up protesters. He encouraged armed militias to take over state capitol buildings with his "LIBERATE" nonsense.

    What about Joe Walsh threatening war on Obama?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/joe-walsh-obama-war-tweet/index.html

    Or the main man himself suggesting the 2A people could take care of Hillary


    Doesn't even come close. These are all lawful responses whereas what's been cited were clearly calls for unlawful acts of violence and suggestions the president should be murdered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    He just said there's been riots in Portland for 50 years. He's not making much sense today.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    he really is the healing president that the US needs right now.

    All I can hope is that he remains safe and his bone spurs don't act up. It must remind him of his time on the battlefield.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Doesn't even come close. These are all lawful responses whereas what's been cited were clearly calls for unlawful acts of violence and suggestions the president should be murdered.

    Sure thing. You keep on believing that. "Lawful responses". :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    .

    "I could tell you, that eh, I could probably refer you to the person and they could do it, I'd like to ask that person if it was ok but a person was on a plane, eh said there were about 6 people like that person, more or less, and what happened is the entire plane filled up with the looters, the anarchists, the rioters, people that were obviously looking for trouble and the person felt very uncomfortable on the plane. This would be a person you know so I ill see whether or not I can get that person to speak to you"

    Any idea wtf he is talking about? Maybe the Trumpists could translate? Kinda mad in Trump's Law & Order America that a plane load of rioters and domestic terrorists can fly to Washington no bother.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    He's managed to spend 4 years of his presidency egging on white supremacists.

    :rolleyes:

    Oh change the record would you:





    Course, Liar Biden spouts the same nonsense:

    https://twitter.com/abigailmarone/status/1299060410449100801

    Democrats see accusations of racism as a prop of sorts, a political tool, something they can just wheel out whenever they like and use as a a battering ram whenever they want to damage an opponent and sadly liberals lap it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭francois


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He just said there's been riots in Portland for 50 years. He's not making much sense today.

    He's not making much sense because he's had a stroke, it is so obvious now


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    :rolleyes:

    Oh change the record would you:





    Course, Liar Biden spouts the same nonsense:

    https://twitter.com/abigailmarone/status/1299060410449100801

    Democrats see accusations of racism as a prop of sorts, a political tool, something they can just wheel out whenever they like and use as a a battering ram whenever they want to damage an opponent and sadly liberals lap it up.

    It's easy to say one thing while doing another.

    It's quite easy to say racism is bad while threatening suburban women with Corey Booker or tweeting random attacks by blacks on white women. It's why dog-whistling exists.

    And on David Duke, why did he pretend not to know who he was when originally confronted with his endorsement?

    Even now, the campaign is happily accepting thousands from a literal nazi organisation that the campaign has been made aware of.

    EDIT:

    One more thing. Is there any reason that you can think of why he might be so overwhelmingly popular with white supremacists and nazis?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can you show me a single contemporary news report of rioting taking place in Atlantic City or Phoenix for instance? Don't be lazy and just throw up more Portland stuff. How many of those cities are actually "Rioting Cities"? There an awful smell of BS off that tweet.

    Presume this is to show how bad Democrats are so not sure why Fort Worth is on it - Republican in charge there.

    News report of rioting in Atlantic city

    https://www.thedailyjournal.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/07/police-charge-95-atlantic-city-rioting-george-floyd/3313530001/

    And Phoenix

    https://ktar.com/story/3215085/police-declare-sunday-protests-unlawful-assembly-in-downtown-phoenix/


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980



    Those are from 31st May and 1st June respectively. So is it safe to assume that there's no rioting in those cities now? So they are not currently "rioting cities"? I presume you extend your congrats to the Dem mayor's in those cities for getting things under control. I mean if Dems are responsible for rioting then they must be responsible for stopping the rioting?

    And seeing as how we are looking back to the week after George Floyd was killed how about these riots in Oklahoma city, Jacksonville and San Diego (all have Republican mayors).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/30/demonstrators-in-jacksonville-join-national-i-cant-breathe-protests/%3foutputType=amp

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/gallery/photos-looting-rioting-hit-la-mesa-after-protest-turns-violent

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/oklahoman.com/article/5665507/protesters-charged-with-terrorism-rioting-assault/amp

    Will you denounce the Republican mayors in those cities as you did Democratic mayors?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    I've never come across such an allegedly powerful man, that apparently has no power whatsoever. It's always someone else's fault when things start falling apart.
    ManBaby Trump as he was called at one stage.


    Has there been evenone genuine trump supporter that has argued in good faith ?

    Don't think so........

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://www.btselem.org/



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Those are from 31st May and 1st June respectively. So is it safe to assume that there's no rioting in those cities now? So they are not currently "rioting cities"? I presume you extend your congrats to the Dem mayor's in those cities for getting things under control. I mean if Dems are responsible for rioting then they must be responsible for stopping the rioting?

    And seeing as how we are looking back to the week after George Floyd was killed how about these riots in Oklahoma city, Jacksonville and San Diego (all have Republican mayors).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/30/demonstrators-in-jacksonville-join-national-i-cant-breathe-protests/%3foutputType=amp

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/gallery/photos-looting-rioting-hit-la-mesa-after-protest-turns-violent

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/oklahoman.com/article/5665507/protesters-charged-with-terrorism-rioting-assault/amp

    Will you denounce the Republican mayors in those cities as you did Democratic mayors?

    I didn't denounce the Dem mayors I was merely pointing out that a number of posters were saying that Trump wasn't doing enough to stop the riots but, he offered help to some Dem mayors and they turned down his offer. So putting the blame on him for not doing enough to stop the riots is fairly stupid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭weisses


    President Trump is arriving in Kenosha soon. I think I speak for all posters here in hoping he stays safe during the visit.

    You can speak for yourself .... That is more then enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I didn't denounce the Dem mayors I was merely pointing out that a number of posters were saying that Trump wasn't doing enough to stop the riots but, he offered help to some Dem mayors and they turned down his offer. So putting the blame on him for not doing enough to stop the riots is fairly stupid.


    Sending in the feds isn't help. Toning down the rhetoric would be helping



    Obama managed to get these those cúnts sorted out in a fairly short time. Why can't Trump?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭weisses


    I didn't denounce the Dem mayors I was merely pointing out that a number of posters were saying that Trump wasn't doing enough to stop the riots but, he offered help to some Dem mayors and they turned down his offer. So putting the blame on him for not doing enough to stop the riots is fairly stupid.

    Trump is doing nothing to stop the riots ... in fact he hopes they work in his favor


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