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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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    #6392
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Wheres the confirmation beyond what the atlantic report ? And dont link somebodys personal twitter

    So by not being able to link to someone's tweet means it can't be verified by people?


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    #6393
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Wheres the confirmation beyond what the atlantic report ? And dont link somebodys personal twitter

    Independently confirmed by a Fox News reporter

    .

    And by AP

    https://apnews.com/b823f2c285641a4a09a96a0b195636ed


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    #6394
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    If it wasnt from a publication that fabricated ‘things he said’ in the past maybe but the atlantic are bottom tier biased for making up things

    However by multiple outlets running with the story themselves means they've done their own due diligence on the sources, this includes fox news


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    #6395
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    duploelabs wrote: »
    So by not being able to link to someone's tweet means it can't be verified by people?

    No,but saying ‘fox news confirmed it’ when its just somebody working for fox news posting it on their personal twitter isnt proof.


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    #6396
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    The Atlantic never published a piece directly saying Trump used the n-word. These are direct accusations they've published now, which have been independently verified and run by other news agencies (AP, Washington Post). Trump has lied repeatedly when attempting to deny the stories.


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    #6397
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The atlantic. Thats where its coming from

    The same atlantic who pushed the ‘n word tape’ conspiracy that never became anything
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/sarah-sanders-omarosa-trump-tape-guarantee/567544/

    This publication has a pretty big history of ‘trump said a thing, weve no proof but we’ll run with it’

    And Fox news are backing it up....


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    #6398
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    No,but saying ‘fox news confirmed it’ when its just somebody working for fox news posting it on their personal twitter isnt proof.

    Yes, but it's actually broadcast by fox news. They would be completely factual wouldn't they or are they to consigned to the 'fake news meeejah' pile?


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    #6399
    [Deleted User]
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Wheres the confirmation beyond what the atlantic report ? And dont link somebodys personal twitter

    Here's the Fox News report where the reporter confirmed the story via other officials. Also unnamed sources is not some new thing.

    https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1301993408219684865?s=09


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    #6400
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users Posts: 17,089 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    He switched the topic to China as quickly as he could. Does that really not concern you?

    His behaviors when it comes to Russia display that of someone under sway. You don't need a news channel to tell you that. Use your own brain and formulate your own opinion.

    would you rather he condemn Russia with no proof?

    if so, TDS has gotten out of hand.


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    #6401
    [Deleted User]
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    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    would you rather he condemn Russia with no proof?

    if so, TDS has gotten out of hand.

    What other nation has used novichok to poison people? It's not even the first time where they've killed the opposition...


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    #6402
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The problem for Trump is that by denying he called McCain a loser, when he clearly did on his own tweet and on video, it brings his entire denial into question. He also yesterday went on a big rant about John Kelly all but confirming that he thinks John Kelly is one of the sources.


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    #6403
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    would you rather he condemn Russia with no proof?

    if so, TDS has gotten out of hand.

    Is it that difficult for him to stand with his allies in the EU and in NATO and condemn the poisoning? And not the first time Russia has carried out such and act like this.

    This is just one out of many instances of Trump playing done deaf on the Russian agenda items. Not even raising the bounties on soldiers item was treasonous.

    Face it, it's clear as daylight he is compromised in some way.


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    #6404
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    would you rather he condemn Russia with no proof?

    if so, TDS has gotten out of hand.

    Germany confirmed the type of poison used, Germany being a NATO ally. Poisoning opposition politicians and dissenters is a hallmark of Russia under Putin. It's not that hard to be honest.


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    #6405
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Yes, but it's actually broadcast by fox news. They would be completely factual wouldn't they or are they to consigned to the 'fake news meeejah' pile?

    Fox news were always unreliable , i love how many people are holding them up as fact now , the reports shown are still from jennifer griffen, shes always been unashamedly anti trump and it wouldnt shock me for her to just take the atlantic story on its word and run with it.

    If the original spurce wasnt the atlantic and the person saying it on fox wasnt griffen id give it credit but for now its 2/10 likely not true


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    #6406
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The problem for Trump is that by denying he called McCain a loser, when he clearly did on his own tweet and on video, it brings his entire denial into question. He also yesterday went on a big rant about John Kelly all but confirming that he thinks John Kelly is one of the sources.
    He's also claimed that he rang Melania in Washington, from Paris, because he was so disappointed he couldn't go to the cemetery.

    Melania was in Paris with him.

    https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1301991095904202756


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    #6407
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    He's also claimed that he rang Melania in Washington, from Paris, because he was so disappointed he couldn't go to the cemetery.

    Melania was in Paris with him.

    https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1301991095904202756

    Yes of course. That's the problem with liars, and Trump is an exceptional liar, eventually you get tripped up in your own lies.


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    #6408
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Fox news were always unreliable , i love how many people are holding them up as fact now , the reports shown are still from jennifer griffen, shes always been unashamedly anti trump and it wouldnt shock me for her to just take the atlantic story on its word and run with it.

    If the original spurce wasnt the atlantic and the person saying it on fox wasnt griffen id give it credit but for now its 2/10 likely not true

    He lied about calling McCain a loser. He lied about ringing Melania at home when she was in Paris with him at the time. Why do you believe the rest of his denial?


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    #6409
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    He's also claimed that he rang Melania in Washington, from Paris, because he was so disappointed he couldn't go to the cemetery.

    Melania was in Paris with him.

    https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1301991095904202756

    The man is such an idiot. Seriously. Its beyond. belief he thinks he can get away with this stuff


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    #6410
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Fox news were always unreliable , i love how many people are holding them up as fact now , the reports shown are still from jennifer griffen, shes always been unashamedly anti trump and it wouldnt shock me for her to just take the atlantic story on its word and run with it.

    If the original spurce wasnt the atlantic and the person saying it on fox wasnt griffen id give it credit but for now its 2/10 likely not true
    And there it is, hitting a new low of trying to claim Fox News can't be trusted due to anti-Trump biases, while also completely ignored being given confirmation by the Associated Press.

    https://apnews.com/b823f2c285641a4a09a96a0b195636ed
    A senior Defense Department official with firsthand knowledge of events and a senior U.S. Marine Corps officer who was told about Trump’s comments confirmed some of the remarks to The Associated Press, including the 2018 cemetery comments.

    Will you "give it credit for now" in light of this or was that last sentence of your post just a lie?


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    #6411
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Havnt been able to watch the video. Will do later. Does it explain why the Atlantic article contains blatant lies & heresay?

    You believe #IMPOTUS when he claims "many people say" or "I've had phone calls" :rolleyes:


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    #6412
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    If it wasnt from a publication that fabricated ‘things he said’ in the past maybe but the atlantic are bottom tier biased for making up things

    so are Fox

    Fox have confirmed the story.


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    #6413
    [Deleted User]
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    Have to laugh at people on here who have for ages used Fox as a source to support their argument across multiple topics including their support for Trump now saying it's an unreliable source.


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    #6414
    dark crystal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    If it wasnt from a publication that fabricated ‘things he said’ in the past maybe but the atlantic are bottom tier biased for making up things

    If the article they wrote is libelous, Trump should have no problem suing them up the ass, should he? Let's see if he does that.


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    #6415
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The atlantic. Thats where its coming from

    The same atlantic who pushed the ‘n word tape’ conspiracy that never became anything
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/sarah-sanders-omarosa-trump-tape-guarantee/567544/

    This publication has a pretty big history of ‘trump said a thing, weve no proof but we’ll run with it’

    Erm, multiple sources are proof.

    Do you think it’s acceptable that trump called people in the military losers?


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    #6416
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Question for Trump supporters......say this WAS true, and you found some "acceptable" proof of the comments that proved them beyond all doubt;

    Would Trump saying these things be enough to turn you against him?


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    #6417
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Erm, multiple sources are proof.


    Multiple sources have said Biden sexually assaulted Tara Read


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    #6418
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Multiple sources have said Biden sexually assaulted Tara Read

    Ah whataboutism, the foundation of any cogent counter-arguement


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    #6419
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Multiple sources have said Biden sexually assaulted Tara Read

    Multiple women have claimed Trump sexually assaulted them, do you believe those womens claims?


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    #6420
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Ah whataboutism, the foundation of any cogent counter-arguement


    Not whataboutery as I'm not discussing Bidens rape situation specifically. I am pointing out that "multiple sources" are not enough for that poster when the story is about Biden.


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    #6421
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Multiple women have claimed Trump sexually assaulted them, do you believe those womens claims?


    No. Those claims are not credible.


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