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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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    #6932
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Trump Has Mocked the U.S. Military His Whole Life - Egged on by his father, the U.S. president began expressing contempt for Americans who fight in wars as far back as high school, his classmates say.

    Sourced, on the record story from a (military veteran) classmate of Trump that certainly gives credence to The Atlantic article


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    #6933
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Donald Trump puts his rape defense on the taxpayer: Bill Barr's DOJ steps in to fight off defamation lawsuit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll claiming he was 'acting as president' when he called her a liar.


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    #6934
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Donald Trump nominated by a member of the Norwegian Parliament for Nobel Peace Prize following his efforts to broker peace between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.
    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-12067203


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    #6935
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    biko wrote: »
    Donald Trump nominated by a member of the Norwegian Parliament for Nobel Peace Prize following his efforts to broker peace between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.
    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-12067203

    not the first time that guy has nominated trump. He must like the publicity.


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    #6936
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    biko wrote: »
    Donald Trump nominated by a member of the Norwegian Parliament for Nobel Peace Prize following his efforts to broker peace between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.
    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-12067203

    That's the war that kept me up at night. Glad he solved it.


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    #6937
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,463 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    That's the war that kept me up at night. Glad he solved it.

    Hasn't been an incident at the Israel/UAE border since the Trump peace accord.
    (I know, but I live in hope DT says this at some stage).


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    #6938
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    biko wrote: »
    Donald Trump nominated by a member of the Norwegian Parliament for Nobel Peace Prize following his efforts to broker peace between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.
    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-12067203

    Trump's main motivation to win a NPP is because Obama got one


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    #6939
    Hoop66
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    Presumably they'll be "yeah, thanks Christian *eye roll* we'll be sure to give it due consideration".

    Or will they think "hey, let's destroy our reputation and award it to Trump for the lols".


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    #6940
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    That's the war that kept me up at night. Glad he solved it.

    the only real unpleasantness between them that i can remember was after a hamas leader was assassinated in Dubai by Mossad agents using irish passports. they have been buddying up for years because they both hate Iran.


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    #6941
    francois
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    In 2020, there were 318 candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize, so being nominated by a far right politician is hardly news.


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    #6942
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    francois wrote: »
    In 2020, there were 318 candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize, so being nominated by a far right politician is hardly news.

    Was he not nominated before?
    This is like deja vu.


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    #6943
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Was he not nominated before?
    This is like deja vu.

    in 2018. by the same MP


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    #6944
    Faugheen
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    duploelabs wrote: »
    Trump's main motivation to win a NPP is because Obama got one

    This is exactly it. He is so thin-skinned that he just wants people to tell him how good he is.


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    #6945
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Faugheen wrote: »
    This is exactly it. He is so thin-skinned that he just wants people to tell him how good he is.

    Not that he's good in this aspect, but he's a better president than Obama


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    #6946
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭threeball


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Not that he's good in this aspect, but he's a better president than Obama

    Obama wasn't a good president but no one has been as utterly pathetic as Trump. Not even Nixon.


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    #6947
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,860 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    threeball wrote: »
    Obama wasn't a good president but no one has been as utterly pathetic as Trump. Not even Nixon.

    Nixon was great in parts. Should've gone down as the best ever.


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    #6948
    Quin_Dub
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Nixon was great in parts. Should've gone down as the best ever.

    Apart from the Rampant Corruption and Paranoia parts.


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    #6949
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭threeball


    The Nal wrote: »
    Nixon was great in parts. Should've gone down as the best ever.

    Apart from his handling of the Vietnam war and Watergate obviously....


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    #6950
    duploelabs
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    threeball wrote: »
    Apart from his handling of the Vietnam war and Watergate obviously....

    And the impending impeachment


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    #6951
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,860 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Apart from the Rampant Corruption and Paranoia parts.
    threeball wrote: »
    Apart from his handling of the Vietnam war and Watergate obviously....

    And committing treason

    When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election

    He did end the Vietnam war and the draft though.


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    #6952
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The Nal wrote: »
    And committing treason

    When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election

    He did end the Vietnam war and the draft though.

    arguably he prolonged the vietnam war. Johnson had the north and south ready to agree a deal but nixon screwed it up.


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    #6953
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,860 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    arguably he prolonged the vietnam war. Johnson had the north and south ready to agree a deal but nixon screwed it up.

    Possibly but that remained to be seen. Fascinating either way. Johnsons dealings with Vietnam were hardly Nobel Peace prize worthy to that point.


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    #6954
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Apart from the Rampant Corruption and Paranoia parts.

    That's why they love #IMPOTUS so much, he is Nixons double.


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    #6955
    Igotadose
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    That's why they love #IMPOTUS so much, he is Nixons double.

    Hasn't got a fraction of Nixon's brain. I don't recall Nixon being such a massive narcissist, married to the same woman for decades, personal life pretty boring. Brutally smart and vicious GOP operative. Nixon actually achieved a lot of things. The #IMPOTUS, almost nothing in 4 years positive, and lots and lots of negatives.


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    #6956
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    In new tapes, President Trump admits to Bob Woodward he concealed critical details he knew about the coronavirus. "I wanted to always play it down."

    He said that, on tape?


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    #6957
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Cody montana wrote: »
    In new tapes, President Trump admits to Bob Woodward he concealed critical details he knew about the coronavirus. "I wanted to always play it down."

    He said that, on tape?

    Yes.. He did... The recordings are on CNN

    Here's what he said on February 7th
    This is more deadly. This is five per- you know, this is five percent versus one percent and less than one percent. You know? So, this is deadly stuff.


    This was when he was saying that it wasn't a big deal in public and saying that it was going away very soon etc.


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    #6958
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Hasn't got a fraction of Nixon's brain. I don't recall Nixon being such a massive narcissist, married to the same woman for decades, personal life pretty boring. Brutally smart and vicious GOP operative. Nixon actually achieved a lot of things. The #IMPOTUS, almost nothing in 4 years positive, and lots and lots of negatives.


    Nixon was, as you said, no thicko. He was a high-achiever from a very modest background. If you leave aside the clusterf*ck of Watergate - which rightly tarnished his name - he was actually quite a forward-thinking policy maker, there were a lot of innovations in his tenure - he surrounded himself with hard-workers who had something between the ears.

    For all his faults - and they were many - Nixon's cabinet members and staff were nowhere near as grotesque as Trump's, and it goes without saying he would leave the Donald in the dust intellectually.


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    #6959
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,666 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Yes.. He did... The recordings are on CNN

    Here's what he said on February 7th




    This was when he was saying that it wasn't a big deal in public and saying that it was going away very soon etc.

    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.


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    #6960
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.

    how many time has that been written about trump? this wont affect his base at all.


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    #6961
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.

    Sadly - No.

    For almost all Republican voters there is literally nothing that he could do that would make them vote for Biden.

    A few might sit the Election out , but the number that would switch sides at this stage is negligible.

    This might help in the suburbs among the Independent voters and might drive increased engagement from Democrat voters , but it's really not going to impact that core vote.


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