2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Professor Moriarty · 13-09-2020 11:09am

MadYaker wrote: »

Does that somehow stop me having an opinion on it at the time?

Stops you proving your opinion at that time. People might think you are just pretending.

Kidchameleon · 13-09-2020 11:24am

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Did he not nominate the US, Serbian and Kosovan governments? Which would be an entirely different nomination. For instance, the EU was nominated for, and won, the Nobel Peace Prize.

Yes, as I said he was nominated among other people. It also says same in the Tweet I shared

dwayneshintzy · 13-09-2020 11:27am

Last year, Hong Kong protestors were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't see it being entirely impossible for BLM to be nominated for 2021 (since there are so many different people who can make a nomination)......

Hypoethetically, if that were the case, would all those touting Trump's nomination hold the same view about Nobel nominations that they do now?

MacBride Prize 2020 awarded to Black Lives Matter and Hibakusha Signature Campaign

Professor Moriarty · 13-09-2020 11:33am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Yes, as I said he was nominated among other people. It also says same in the Tweet I shared

So not Trump specifically. Just the government of which he is a part. and two other governments.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-09-2020 11:37am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

President Trump (among others) has also received another nomination from a Swedish politician this week.

https://twitter.com/magnusjacobsson/status/1304396176612040705

Kim jong un has been nominated too, nomination means nothing.

I hope Jacinda Ardern wins it, saying that it would be an epic meltdown by Trump if Michelle Obama wins

World Health Organisation: 5/2
Greta Thunberg: 3/1
Jacinda Ardern: 5/1
UNHCR: 12/1
Black Lives Matter: 16/1
Moon Jae-In: 18/1
Donald Trump: 20/1
Bill Gates: 20/1
Julian Assange: 33/1
Vladimir Putin: 33/1
Emmanuel Macron: 35/1
Boris Johnson: 50/1
Joe Biden: 50/1
Michelle Obama: 55/1
Kim Jong-un: 60/1

westdublin · 13-09-2020 11:39am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Yes, as I said he was nominated among other people. It also says same in the Tweet I shared

So well done Nancy Pelosi on her nomination

Faugheen · 13-09-2020 11:44am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Kim jong un has been nominated too, nomination means nothing.

I hope Jacinda Ardern wins it, saying that it would be an epic meltdown by Trump if Michelle Obama wins

World Health Organisation: 5/2
Greta Thunberg: 3/1
Jacinda Ardern: 5/1
UNHCR: 12/1
Black Lives Matter: 16/1
Moon Jae-In: 18/1
Donald Trump: 20/1
Bill Gates: 20/1
Julian Assange: 33/1
Vladimir Putin: 33/1
Emmanuel Macron: 35/1
Boris Johnson: 50/1
Joe Biden: 50/1
Michelle Obama: 55/1
Kim Jong-un: 60/1

The World Health Organisation winning it would send his blood pressure into overdrive.

duploelabs · 13-09-2020 11:47am

Faugheen wrote: »

The World Health Organisation winning it would send his blood pressure into overdrive.

As would Greta Thunberg

tigger123 · 13-09-2020 12:05pm

Seeing Trump lose to Greta would be pretty hilarious.

MadYaker · 13-09-2020 12:18pm

The WHO shouldn't come within an asses roar of any nobel prize either after the way they've handled coronavirus, in the beginning at least

westdublin · 13-09-2020 12:42pm

MadYaker wrote: »

The WHO shouldn't come within an asses roar of any nobel prize either after the way they've handled coronavirus, in the beginning at least

Shouldn't that also rule out el Trumpo ?

Kidchameleon · 13-09-2020 12:56pm

tigger123 wrote: »

Seeing Trump lose to Greta would be pretty hilarious.

LOL yeah, it would be a small consolation for Biden/Democrats losing the election

Kidchameleon · 13-09-2020 12:57pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So not Trump specifically. Just the government of which he is a part. and two other governments.

Well yes and I specifically stated that the second nomination was Trump among other people. I don't think anyone claimed the nomination was specifically for him?

dwayneshintzy · 13-09-2020 1:02pm

Monmouth University poll, rated A+ by 538, has a 9 point lead for Biden nationally in registered voters, and a 7 point lead in those "likely to vote"; https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_091020/

Cody montana · 13-09-2020 1:04pm

Mike Bloomberg to spend at least $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden.

Well done.

astrofool · 13-09-2020 2:16pm

Great site here to play with:
https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

Essentially Trump needs to win most of the toss-up states, and a couple of the leaning states, and hope that nothing swings to Biden.

Trump's chances are about 1/4 to 1/3.

Will be interesting to see if it narrows as time goes on (the fact it hasn't narrowed much yet would be a worry for the GOP) and if the polling is accurately reflected this time, as they got caught on the hop last time for both Brexit and US election, so hopefully the "hidden" voter is being counted correctly this time.

MadYaker · 13-09-2020 2:52pm

It could all hinge on Florida. If Biden wins Florida it doesn’t look like Trump has any path to 270 electoral college votes.

Quin_Dub · 13-09-2020 3:58pm

MadYaker wrote: »

It could all hinge on Florida. If Biden wins Florida it doesn’t look like Trump has any path to 270 electoral college votes.

It's been almost 100 years since a Republican won the Presidency without Florida

If Biden was to win Florida, all he'd need to do would be to hold the States that Clinton won - which, if he wins Florida is almost a given and pick up any one of the mid-west States that Trump won,. And he has good leads in all of them right now. Pennsylvania, Michigan etc.

MadYaker · 13-09-2020 4:17pm

While it’s still long way to the election in terms of 2020 politics it is hard to see how trump is going to turn it around. Compared to the well oiled machine his team ran in 2016 this campaign is floundering by comparison. The law and order angle he keeps flogging is getting him nowhere. I think the fact that he can’t hold the big rallies is a problem for his campaign. They generated a lot of publicity and talking points.

Quin_Dub · 13-09-2020 4:23pm

He has two major problems.

Firstly, he's now the incumbent with a Record to defend so he can't play the " What have you got to lose card" and secondly nobody really dislikes Joe Biden. They might disagree on Policy etc. but nobody hates him, most people, even Democrat voters didn't like Clinton, so the "Lock her up" stuff was an easy sell.

Those were basically his key campaign points last time and neither are available to him now.

silverharp · 13-09-2020 4:27pm

Here is a funny one, if you in google type "does joe biden have dementia?" It never auto completes. If you do the same in bing it autocompletes afterJ. I suppose domestic interference is ok

biko · 13-09-2020 4:30pm

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

MadYaker joined boards.ie in December 2010. Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.

That doesn't mean he can't comment on it after.

I found a post by MadYaker criticising giving Obama the prize - I believe him now.

LessOutragePlz · 13-09-2020 4:43pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/12/pence-drops-out-of-trump-campaign-fundraiser-backed-by-qanon-supporters.html

Interesting that Pence has pulled out of a campaign fundraiser backed by QAnon supporters.

I wonder if the campaign will distance themselves from all future campaign events that are run or organised by QAnon supporters.

13-09-2020 4:47pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/12/pence-drops-out-of-trump-campaign-fundraiser-backed-by-qanon-supporters.html

Interesting that Pence has pulled out of a campaign fundraiser backed by QAnon supporters.

I wonder if the campaign will distance themselves from all future campaign events that are run or organised by QAnon supporters.

Didn't you treat them as credible recently enough?

LessOutragePlz · 13-09-2020 5:09pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Didn't you treat them as credible recently enough?

I didn't treat them as credible I merely stated that I've checked their posts for news.

dwayneshintzy · 13-09-2020 5:26pm

silverharp wrote: »

Here is a funny one, if you in google type "does joe biden have dementia?" It never auto completes. If you do the same in bing it autocompletes afterJ. I suppose domestic interference is ok

Go on try the same for Donald Trump there

13-09-2020 5:36pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I didn't treat them as credible I merely stated that I've checked their posts for news.

If you're using them as a news source, you viewed them as somewhat credible...

Danzy · 13-09-2020 5:37pm

MadYaker wrote: »

It could all hinge on Florida. If Biden wins Florida it doesn’t look like Trump has any path to 270 electoral college votes.

Biden is doing well among middle and upper class whites, Trump is doing well among the white working class and Cuban Americans.

Fairly even split. One important piece might be the inroads Trump has made in Miami Dade countys Hispanic community.

LessOutragePlz · 13-09-2020 5:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If you're using them as a news source, you viewed them as somewhat credible...

One of their posts led me to this Reddit post that contains a list of all US politicians Charged/Convicted of Sex Crimes against minors which I would consider newsworthy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DivineRightOfKings/comments/cc3msy/here_is_a_list_of_all_us_politicians/

So they are providing links to genuine news stories but I'm not naive enough to believe that everything that is posted there is true .

dwayneshintzy · 13-09-2020 6:03pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

One of their posts led me to this Reddit post that contains a list of all US politicians Charged/Convicted of Sex Crimes against minors which I would consider newsworthy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DivineRightOfKings/comments/cc3msy/here_is_a_list_of_all_us_politicians/

So they are providing links to genuine news stories but I'm not naive enough to believe that everything that is posted there is true .

Some very questionable things on that list.....

Strom Thurmond is listed as a Democrat, despite the fact that he represented Democrats for 10 years, and Republicans for the next 39.

Jared Fogle as a "politician', or in any way a prominent Democrat, is something I'd want to see some evidence for.

Bernie Ward was a radio host, not a politician.

Dean Westlake is included, but not Roy Moore for some reason.

That's just looking through very quickly.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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