2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

DangerScouse

I see the president has accepted to take part in an extra debate hosted by Joe Rogan but Biden had refused to comment yet.

Kidchameleon

Regarding the Ricardo Munoz situation. I think it is very unfortunate that the man has died. I wish it could have been different. However, it is my opinion that he should have been shot in the circumstances he put himself into. The officer had no choice but to shoot, it is as clear as day from the footage. There is no need for the protests/riots in PA, this man was not shot because of his race.

Timberrrrrrrr

DangerScouse wrote: »

I see the president has accepted to take part in an extra debate hosted by Joe Rogan but Biden had refused to comment yet.

If course the clown wants to be front and centre when the circus comes to town, Biden should just say "No thanks, The three planned debates are enough" and leave it at that.

Kidchameleon

DangerScouse wrote: »

I see the president has accepted to take part in an extra debate hosted by Joe Rogan but Biden had refused to comment yet.

Indeed, more info:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/516288-trump-says-hes-interested-in-debate-hosted-by-joe-rogan

Overheal

DangerScouse wrote: »

I see the president has accepted to take part in an extra debate hosted by Joe Rogan but Biden had refused to comment yet.

One of the dumbest things I’ve heard this cycle. Trump however is clearly strangely eager as an incumbent to get as much debate time in as he can, knowing he will lose this race outright if he fails at the debates.

Trump flustering about such as hoc debates is nothing new: he famously challenged Bernie to a 1v1 debate during the primaries in 2016 being vocal in his belief Bernie wouldn’t accept. To his chagrin, Bernie absolutely did accept his offer, to which Trump instantly backpedaled.

All Trump does with these silly ideas is feed meat to plebs.

Kidchameleon

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Biden should just say "No thanks, The three planned debates are enough" and leave it at that.

In your opinion, what would be the harm of him doing the extra debate?

Overheal

Kidchameleon wrote: »

In your opinion, what would be the harm of him doing the extra debate?

It’s a podcast. This is not seriously up for consideration.

The best organization to handle presidential debates is the Cmte for Presidential Debates.

Kidchameleon

Overheal wrote: »

One of the dumbest things I’ve heard this cycle.

Could you explain why you think it is dumb? I' dont understand what is dumb about asking for an extra debate. Surly it is good for the voters? Especially if it were to be hosted by Joe Rogan who has a massive, young audience. It could increase voter turnout massively.

dark crystal

DangerScouse wrote: »

I see the president has accepted to take part in an extra debate hosted by Joe Rogan but Biden had refused to comment yet.

Joe Rogan? Sweet Jesus. Is this election not enough of a circus already?

Surely Joe Biden's suggestion of a rolling fact checker during the debates would be more helpful for voters? Funnily enough, Trump has refused to comment on that suggestion.

Overheal

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Could you explain why you think it is dumb? I' dont understand what is dumb about asking for an extra debate. Surly it is good for the voters? Especially if it were to be hosted by Joe Rogan who has a massive, young audience. It could increase voter turnout massively.

I already did. It’s not a serious idea.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

In your opinion, what would be the harm of him doing the extra debate?

Why give Trump the air time to shout and waffle? Why bow to his requests?

duploelabs

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Could you explain why you think it is dumb? I' dont understand what is dumb about asking for an extra debate. Surly it is good for the voters? Especially if it were to be hosted by Joe Rogan who has a massive, young audience. It could increase voter turnout massively.

Even the fact that it's hosted by Joe Rogan should be dismissed immediately. He is a woeful broadcaster, and despite his popularity, has the credibility of Rush/Jones

rosser44

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

He has built the wall as promised.

He has drained the swamp and exposed the deep state as promised.

He has Made America Great Again as promised.

I believe that will continue to Keep America Great for another 4 years or at least do a better job of doing so than Biden would.

This is beyond delusional stuff, nothing more than sloganeering.

Professor Moriarty

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Could you explain why you think it is dumb? I' dont understand what is dumb about asking for an extra debate. Surly it is good for the voters? Especially if it were to be hosted by Joe Rogan who has a massive, young audience. It could increase voter turnout massively.

Rogan disqualified himself as a moderator in April when he said he would vote for Trump rather than Biden.

eire4

DubInMeath wrote: »

Ah but he's owning the left etc apparently according to his supporters, and even at that he seems to be failing at this

Always cracks me up listening to Americans talking about the left there as if they had one. The Democrats economically are at best centre right.

Kidchameleon

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Rogan disqualified himself as a moderator in April when he said he would vote for Trump rather than Biden.

Didnt know that

Timberrrrrrrr

rosser44 wrote: »

This is beyond delusional stuff, nothing more than sloganeering.

Thats one way of putting it

Professor Moriarty

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Didnt know that

Here's the quote:

“I’d rather vote for Trump than Biden, I don’t think Biden can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fúck he’ll be like after a year in office."

Would make his moderation seem ever so slightly biased.

briany

I like Joe Rogan's podcast, but I can imagine him skinning up halfway through a debate and letting his sidekick Eddie Bravo ask questions such as, "Dude, which one of you guys would tell us where the aliens are?"

LessOutragePlz

Be great to see them do a debate with Joe Rogan. Joe would be a great moderator doubt Biden will agree to it but he could very well prove me wrong.

Overheal

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Here's the quote:

“I’d rather vote for Trump than Biden, I don’t think Biden can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fúck he’ll be like after a year in office."

Would make his moderation seem ever so slightly biased.

Makes him clearly unfit to evenly moderate any sort of debate between Biden and Trump while profiting off his own broadcast. The suggestion is mere distraction.

LessOutragePlz

Overheal wrote: »

Makes him clearly unfit to evenly moderate any sort of debate between Biden and Trump while profiting off his own broadcast. The suggestion is mere distraction.

Sure every moderator of a presidential debate is going to have to vote for one of the candidates. At least we know where Rogan stands.

Quin_Dub

Only losers need more debates.

Debates are there for the challenger to score points on the incumbent.

Biden is leading in all the places he needs to be leading right now. There is absolutely nothing to be gained in him giving Trump more air-time.

Even if it was a proper extra debate and not some bizarre side-show with Joe Rogan.

dark crystal

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Be great to see them do a debate with Joe Rogan. Joe would be a great moderator doubt Biden will agree to it but he could very well prove me wrong.

Would you be just as happy for, say, Howard Stern to host such a debate?

Professor Moriarty

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Sure every moderator of a presidential debate is going to have to vote for one of the candidates. At least we know where Rogan stands.

Tell you what would be fair. Two debates. Joe Rogan moderates the first debate. And Alec Baldwin does the second.

dwayneshintzy

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Sure every moderator of a presidential debate is going to have to vote for one of the candidates. At least we know where Rogan stands.

Sorry, but that's ridiculous. A debate moderator by definition should be impartial. Yes, they can have their own private views. But those shouldn't affect the debate itself. By publicly backing a candidate, there's not even an appearance of impartiality.


Have Chris Wallace, Steve Scully or Kristen Walker publicly backed one candidate over the other?

duploelabs

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Be great to see them do a debate with Joe Rogan. Joe would be a great moderator doubt Biden will agree to it but he could very well prove me wrong.

What makes you think he'd be a 'great moderator'?

dwayneshintzy

I actually have a bit of a soft spot for Joe Rogan. I think his heart is often in the right place, and he can facilitate some great discussions. However, he's not a particularly deep thinker and I don't think he challenges his guests enough. Nothing about him makes me think he'd be someone who should host a Presidential debate, even disregarding the fact that he's publicly backed Trump over Biden.

Timberrrrrrrr

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Be great to see them do a debate with Joe Rogan. Joe would be a great moderator doubt Biden will agree to it but he could very well prove me wrong.

FFS they will be putting Howard Stern forward for the moderators position next.

dark crystal

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

FFS they will be putting Howard Stern forward for the moderators position next.

They could wheel out Kanye as the half time act :pac: