2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Igotadose

In amusing #IMPOTUS campaign news, they ran an ad asking to Support our Troops!

All well and good. Too bad the troops are walking below MIG 29's and one is carrying a modern Russian assault rifle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets/ar-BB192nX1

Just can't make this stuff up. Campaign runs out of money. RNC head blames Joe Biden for the US Covid response. Now this. With 6 weeks to go.

ohnonotgmail

Igotadose wrote: »

In amusing #IMPOTUS campaign news, they ran an ad asking to Support our Troops!

All well and good. Too bad the troops are walking below MIG 29's and one is carrying a modern Russian assault rifle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets/ar-BB192nX1

Just can't make this stuff up. Campaign runs out of money. RNC head blames Joe Biden for the US Covid response. Now this. With 6 weeks to go.

maybe he is finally being honest about who he really works for?

kenmm

Coming to an IMAX this fall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmXj613HPN8

I'm glad we don't go this far in our election campaigning - wtf like!

namloc1980

kenmm wrote: »

Coming to an IMAX this fall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmXj613HPN8

I'm glad we don't go this far in our election campaigning - wtf like!

The GOP and Trump campaign's core strategy is pretending that Biden has been president for the last 4 years and not their guy. Example below

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kenmm

namloc1980 wrote: »

The Trump campaign's core strategy is pretending that Biden has been president for the last 4 years and not their guy.

Aye ye - lies and subterfuge, why let facts and figures get in the way of a good story - and with the way that trailer was produced I'd want to see that film!

Unfortunately the footage taken (context unknown) was of real people..



I suppose if you are bombarded with that crap all day it's going to impact you.

threeball

kenmm wrote: »

Coming to an IMAX this fall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmXj613HPN8

I'm glad we don't go this far in our election campaigning - wtf like!

Isn't that the music from the purge? They're not even trying to be original

1800_Ladladlad

This is a clip from Bidens appearances on The View. A panel of gobsh*tes. I found it very uncomfortable to watch this clip, their pressing of him to get an answer in such a gentle way and their compassion shown towards him and the acceptance of his "answers". They do not give republicans/conservatives the same treatment, nor would they if they were in this same situation as Biden. Biden's incoherent babbling and not even finishing a complete sentence throughout his full appearance on the show is.

https://twitter.com/Jkruge/status/1305630349502939138

People just want to get rid of Trump and Biden is irrelanvant to the people who vote for him, he is irrelevant to them. They are desperate.

Overheal

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This is a clip from Bidens appearances on The View. A panel of gobsh*tes. I found it very uncomfortable to watch this clip, their pressing of him to get an answer in such a gentle way and their compassion shown towards him and the acceptance of his "answers". They do not give republicans/conservatives the same treatment, nor would they if they were in this same situation as Biden. Biden's incoherent babbling and not even finishing a complete sentence throughout his full appearance on the show is.

https://twitter.com/Jkruge/status/1305630349502939138

People just want to get rid of Trump and Biden is irrelanvant to the people who vote for him, he is irrelevant to them. They are desperate.

Perhaps your discomfort is due to the fact the video has been manipulated by the Daily Caller, founded by Tucker Carlson.

https://youtu.be/gogO2nFQw_w?t=197

The tweet video does not accurately reflect the complete answer he gave, nor even the complete prompt from the host. It also manipulates his answer to make him sound like he stammers and mumbles for a period of time which is not true to the interview. It also intersperses awkward glances from hosts that appear to have no connection to the context of this period in the interview, which are not evident in the original broadcast.

Igotadose

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This is a clip from Bidens appearances on The View. A panel of gobsh*tes.

An edited clip. Fall for it if you want to.

Do you really think there's a US TV show doing interviews yesterday in front of an audience like your clip shows? That farcical thing, is a bad choppy edit designed to rile up the GOP sheep, based on an interview from 2019.

Here's the full interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gogO2nFQw_w

2 seconds of googling to find it if you wanted to bother. He destroys the #IMPOTUS at the beginning of the interview. The inappropriate touching questions are 3:29 in.

Try again.

1800_Ladladlad

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This is a clip from Bidens appearances on The View. A panel of gobsh*tes. I found it very uncomfortable to watch this clip, their pressing of him to get an answer in such a gentle way and their compassion shown towards him and the acceptance of his "answers". They do not give republicans/conservatives the same treatment, nor would they if they were in this same situation as Biden. Biden's incoherent babbling and not even finishing a complete sentence throughout his full appearance on the show is.

https://twitter.com/Jkruge/status/1305630349502939138

People just want to get rid of Trump and Biden is irrelanvant to the people who vote for him, he is irrelevant to them. They are desperate.

That clip is surely edited

Overheal

Deleted User wrote: »

That clip is surely edited

Absolutely is.

https://youtu.be/gogO2nFQw_w?t=197

Ladladlad won't be the least bit ashamed for it though. He will act like it didn't happen, show up here in a few hours/days with more manipulated screed

Have to admit it's quite slickly done. If I was watching fox news all day, I'd believe that in a second.

Overheal

Deleted User wrote: »

Have to admit it's quite slickly done. If I was watching fox news all day, I'd believe that in a second.

They screwed up early by clearly chopping up the presenters question. Would take a serious lapse of critical thinking to believe this.

MadYaker

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This is a clip from Bidens appearances on The View. A panel of gobsh*tes. I found it very uncomfortable to watch this clip, their pressing of him to get an answer in such a gentle way and their compassion shown towards him and the acceptance of his "answers". They do not give republicans/conservatives the same treatment, nor would they if they were in this same situation as Biden. Biden's incoherent babbling and not even finishing a complete sentence throughout his full appearance on the show is.

https://twitter.com/Jkruge/status/1305630349502939138

People just want to get rid of Trump and Biden is irrelanvant to the people who vote for him, he is irrelevant to them. They are desperate.

4/10 must try harder, video clearly edited and from a hopelessly biased source.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Have to admit it's quite slickly done. If I was watching fox news all day, I'd believe that in a second.

if you were the type of person that watched Fox news all day you would definitely believe it.

Timberrrrrrrr

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This is a clip from Bidens appearances on The View. A panel of gobsh*tes. I found it very uncomfortable to watch this clip, their pressing of him to get an answer in such a gentle way and their compassion shown towards him and the acceptance of his "answers". They do not give republicans/conservatives the same treatment, nor would they if they were in this same situation as Biden. Biden's incoherent babbling and not even finishing a complete sentence throughout his full appearance on the show is.

https://twitter.com/Jkruge/status/1305630349502939138

People just want to get rid of Trump and Biden is irrelanvant to the people who vote for him, he is irrelevant to them. They are desperate.

Embarrassed for you, How gullible does a person have to be to get sucked in by something so obviously fake :pac:

gmisk

People can be so dismissive of Trump despite the fact he won the prestigious "bay of pigs" award! Shame on you all





Oh wait it doesn't exist....

https://globalnews.ca/news/7333071/donald-trump-bay-of-pigs-award-noble-prize/

Igotadose

gmisk wrote: »

People can be so dismissive of Trump despite the fact he won the prestigious "bay of pigs" award! Shame on you all





Oh wait it doesn't exist....

https://globalnews.ca/news/7333071/donald-trump-bay-of-pigs-award-noble-prize/

He can put it on a shelf with his Michigan 'man of the year' award, which he claimed to receive though it doesn't exist. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/trumps-dubious-michigan-man-of-the-year-boast/

ohnonotgmail

gmisk wrote: »

People can be so dismissive of Trump despite the fact he won the prestigious "bay of pigs" award! Shame on you all





Oh wait it doesn't exist....

https://globalnews.ca/news/7333071/donald-trump-bay-of-pigs-award-noble-prize/

he probably has it on display next to the Michigan Man of the Year award that also doesn't exist. they must look well next to the fake Time magazine covers he had printed with his face on them.

Igotadose

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he probably has it on display next to the Michigan Man of the Year award that also doesn't exist. they must look well next to the fake Time magazine covers he had printed with his face on them.

Hah. Beat you to it :P

Leroy42

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

People just want to get rid of Trump and Biden is irrelanvant to the people who vote for him, he is irrelevant to them. They are desperate.

Even if that wasn't a doctored video, isn't this the exact excuse many people used in voting for Trump over HC?

That they knew Trump was bad, but HC was so much worse.

Strange that they would now be against that line of thinking.

Timberrrrrrrr

Igotadose wrote: »

He can put it on a shelf with his Michigan 'man of the year' award, which he claimed to receive though it doesn't exist. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/trumps-dubious-michigan-man-of-the-year-boast/

And his fake Time magazine cover that hangs at his golf clubs

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/28/time-magazinetrump-fake-covers-golf-clubs

Overheal

I don't recall ever having to doctor photos or videos to criticize Trump. His own words and actions are criticism enough. The length they have to go to in order to attack Biden. They can't attack the real Joe Biden, so they have to conjure up a fake caricature.

kenmm

Overheal wrote: »

I don't recall ever having to doctor photos or videos to criticize Trump. His own words and actions are criticism enough. The length they have to go to in order to attack Biden. They can't attack the real Joe Biden, so they have to conjure up a fake caricature.

But this is where modern political strategy excels. For years we have been hearing cries of fake news. Destabilising the media was a masterstroke. So it doesn't matter in the post truth era. It really doesn't.

So now any old narcissistic fu(k can get up on a platform and be heard and not only do you have people cheering him on, you have a queue of people lining up to do all sorts of favours for him.

salmocab

Overheal wrote: »

I don't recall ever having to doctor photos or videos to criticize Trump. His own words and actions are criticism enough. The length they have to go to in order to attack Biden. They can't attack the real Joe Biden, so they have to conjure up a fake caricature.

Ah in fairness there have been a few photoshopped pics of him, it’s a common enough thing I’d say from dodgy news sources and people with the computer ability.
That his supporters are at it shouldn’t surprise anyone, remember the extra frames inserted into the video of the reporter at the press conference a few years back

Overheal

Apparently Pompeo's wife is a federal employee now

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article245664835.html

using private emails and all

namloc1980

Overheal wrote: »

Apparently Pompeo's wife is a federal employee now

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article245664835.html

using private emails and all

"Draining the swamp".

Overheal

Scuttlebut is Caputo may shortly resign over his interviews yesterday when he suggested CDC scientists might be trying to kill him and he said "shooting will begin" at Trump's yet hypothetical 2nd inauguration, and for all gun owners to buy more guns and stock up on ammo now for the insurrection:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/15/michael-caputo-apology-hhs-staff-415206

Dude is definitely a nutter and his NYT interview made clear he has a legitimate case for medical health leave over mental instability:

“I don’t like being alone in Washington,” he said, describing “shadows on the ceiling in my apartment, there alone, shadows are so long.” He then ran through a series of conspiracy theories, culminating in a prediction that Mr. Trump will win re-election but his Democratic opponent, Joseph R. Biden Jr., will refuse to concede.

“And when Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin,” he said. “The drills that you’ve seen are nothing.” He added: “If you carry guns, buy ammunition, ladies and gentlemen, because it’s going to be hard to get.”

He added that the political climate has taken a toll on his mental wellbeing, saying his “mental health has definitely failed.”

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Scuttlebut is Caputo may shortly resign over his interviews yesterday when he suggested CDC scientists might be trying to kill him and he said "shooting will begin" at Trump's yet hypothetical 2nd inauguration, and for all gun owners to buy more guns and stock up on ammo now for the insurrection:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/15/michael-caputo-apology-hhs-staff-415206

Dude is definitely a nutter and his NYT interview made clear he has a legitimate case for medical health leave over mental instability:

You would swear he has a account on here at times.
That lad has blown the fuse board unfortunately.

Overheal

Looks like Trump is getting a little help from troll farms - this time, headquartered in Arizona

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/turning-point-teens-disinformation-trump/2020/09/15/c84091ae-f20a-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_610p-tues-turningpoint%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

WaPo has an expose' on Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action using paid humans and bots to proliferate spammy content, echoing pro-trump talking points in battleground states.

The messages have been emanating in recent months from the accounts of young people in Arizona seemingly expressing their own views — standing up for President Trump in a battleground state and echoing talking points from his reelection campaign.

Far from representing a genuine social media groundswell, however, the posts are the product of a sprawling yet secretive campaign that experts say evades the guardrails put in place by social media companies to limit online disinformation of the sort used by Russia during the 2016 campaign.

Teenagers, some of them minors, are being paid to pump out the messages at the direction of Turning Point Action, an affiliate of Turning Point USA, the prominent conservative youth organization based in Phoenix, according to four people with independent knowledge of the effort. Their descriptions were confirmed by detailed notes from relatives of one of the teenagers who recorded conversations with him about the efforts.

The campaign draws on the spam-like behavior of bots and trolls, with the same or similar language posted repeatedly across social media. But it is carried out, at least in part, by humans paid to use their own accounts, though nowhere disclosing their relationship with Turning Point Action or the digital firm brought in to oversee the day-to-day activity. One user included a link to Turning Point USA’s website in his Twitter profile until The Washington Post began asking questions about the activity.

In response to questions from The Post, Twitter on Tuesday suspended at least 20 accounts involved in the activity for “platform manipulation and spam.” Facebook also removed a number of accounts as part of what the company said is an ongoing investigation.

The effort generated thousands of posts this summer on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram, according to an examination by The Post and an assessment by an independent specialist in data science. Nearly 4,500 tweets containing identical content that were identified in the analysis probably represent a fraction of the overall output.

The months-long effort by the tax-exempt nonprofit is among the most ambitious domestic influence campaigns uncovered this election cycle, said experts tracking the evolution of deceptive online tactics.

“In 2016, there were Macedonian teenagers interfering in the election by running a troll farm and writing salacious articles for money,” said Graham Brookie, director of the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab. “In this election, the troll farm is in Phoenix.”

The effort, Brookie added, illustrates “that the scale and scope of domestic disinformation is far greater than anything a foreign adversary could do to us.”

Turning Point Action, whose 26-year-old leader, Charlie Kirk, delivered the opening speech at this year’s Republican National Convention, issued a statement from the group’s field director defending the social media campaign and saying any comparison to a troll farm was a “gross mischaracterization.”

“This is sincere political activism conducted by real people who passionately hold the beliefs they describe online, not an anonymous troll farm in Russia,” the field director, Austin Smith, said in the statement.

He said the operation reflected an attempt by Turning Point Action to maintain its advocacy despite the challenges presented by the coronavirus pandemic, which has curtailed many traditional political events.

“Like everyone else, Turning Point Action’s plans for nationwide in-person events and activities were completely disrupted by the pandemic,” Smith said. “Many positions TPA had planned for in field work were going to be completely cut, but TPA managed to reimagine these roles and working with our marketing partners, transitioned some to a virtual and online activist model.”

The group declined to make Kirk available for an interview.