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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Biden's party is more split on policy than Trump's.

    The Reaganite Republicans have gone to Biden, his reputation as the Senator for MBNA preceding him.

    Quite a large part of the party like Aoc and her views which are often far removed from blue collar Dems etc.

    Someone will be disappointed if Joe talks policy too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Biden's party is more split on policy than Trump's.

    The Reaganite Republicans have gone to Biden, his reputation as the Senator for MBNA preceding him.

    Quite a large part of the party like Aoc and her views which are often far removed from blue collar Dems etc.

    Someone will be disappointed if Joe talks policy too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭randd1


    Penn wrote: »
    Prump.... Nars....

    Donald must have been drinking a whole load of apple juice that day....

    Wait a minute. That's not apple juice... Is Stormy here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Danzy wrote: »
    Biden's party is more split on policy than Trump's.

    The Reaganite Republicans have gone to Biden, his reputation as the Senator for MBNA preceding him.

    Quite a large part of the party like Aoc and her views which are often far removed from blue collar Dems etc.

    Someone will be disappointed if Joe talks policy too much.
    AOC is quite a strong proponent of organized labor actually, which is traditionally one of the biggest issues for "blue collar Dems".


    Republicans are certainly dead set on portraying any action on climate change as awful, of course. But apart from the Green New Deal (which I'd argue isn't anti-labour at all), what other views does AOC hold that are "far removed from blue collar Dems"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,527 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    .

    "Protesting stupidity" at a rally during a pandemic :)

    Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    .

    "Protesting stupidity" at a rally during a pandemic :)

    Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.

    On the left side, then moves around to lean against the podium.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Danzy wrote: »
    Biden's party is more split on policy than Trump's.

    The Reaganite Republicans have gone to Biden, his reputation as the Senator for MBNA preceding him.

    Quite a large part of the party like Aoc and her views which are often far removed from blue collar Dems etc.

    Someone will be disappointed if Joe talks policy too much.

    This line of attack on AOC is ridiculous. She is a blue collar democrat. Her entire policy platform is pro labour: pro union, raise the minimum wage etc.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    .

    "Protesting stupidity" at a rally during a pandemic :)

    Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.

    every time he gives a speech he holds on to the podium for dear life. he struggles to stand still without one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Brian? wrote: »
    This line of attack on AOC is ridiculous. She is a blue collar democrat. Her entire policy platform is pro labour: pro union, raise the minimum wage etc.

    This line of attack is not stupid, it is very apt. AOC is correctly pointing out that we have to move away from an industrial model that pollutes.

    While, this is necessary and for the good of society as a whole, it will mean devistation and poverty for people working in these industries. Many of these industries are longstanding and unionised.

    These unions and workers will have to directly pay for the green new deal. AOCs policy goals will cost them their jobs. Granted they will lose their jobs anyway as industry moves away from fossil fuels, but that discomfort is down the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    This line of attack is not stupid, it is very apt. AOC is correctly pointing out that we have to move away from an industrial model that pollutes.

    While, this is necessary and for the good of society as a whole, it will mean devistation and poverty for people working in these industries. Many of these industries are longstanding and unionised.

    These unions and workers will have to directly pay for the green new deal. AOCs policy goals will cost them their jobs. Granted they will lose their jobs anyway as industry moves away from fossil fuels, but that discomfort is down the line.

    https://youtu.be/qS2bETWPQms

    Be careful of what you wish for..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭francois


    Cognitive decline due to mini-strokes? Or rambling nonsense?

    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1308170707461787649


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    In the great scheme of trump crimes it is very small but Trump admitted that his Taj mahal casino in Atlantic City was being used for money laundering

    https://thesternfacts.com/cnn-just-proved-trumps-taj-mahal-has-laundered-money-for-20-years-6120e6bc84b2
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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trump gives himself an A+ for his Pandemic response

    The disconnect from reality and any shred of decency is simply staggering.

    Describes the work as "Not just a good job , a phenomenal job" - With 200,000 dead and projections that another ~180,000 will die before the years end.

    No indication of wishing things had been different , no identification of opportunities for improvement , nothing.

    With that utter lack of insight and personal reflection , no wonder every business he's ever started has gone bust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    "young people, immune systems are great, it effects the elderly, but it only effects them because of their underlying conditions, other then that it effects nobody".

    While in the background, "everyone" with their faces covered?? (Happy to see it) his "own peeps" don't believe his stick he's talking ffs lol

    First thirty seconds..

    https://youtu.be/Bpyuo3zP74U

    Yet they will still cast a vote for the lying, cheating cnut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    In the great scheme of trump crimes it is very small but Trump admitted that his Taj mahal casino in Atlantic City was being used for money laundering

    https://thesternfacts.com/cnn-just-proved-trumps-taj-mahal-has-laundered-money-for-20-years-6120e6bc84b2
    1-bd2ac9ddf4.jpg

    I hear he was just being a patriotic American being a law breaking, tax/draft dodging cnut..

    Yet a person that throws paint on a piece of sculpted metal or stone, see those, they're totally un-american and need to be sent to jail for 10 years those dirty commies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.
    Loving how the attacks from both sides are getting medical.
    Joe is demented and Trump has weird arm spasms.

    Reminds me of the attacks and defence around
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    biko wrote: »
    Loving how the attacks from both sides are getting medical.
    Joe is demented and Trump has weird arm spasms.

    Reminds me of the attacks and defence around
    AgileDisgustingLaughingthrush-small.gif

    all of the attacks from trump supporters are around Bidens decline. they post them on an endless loop. Only fair that Trumps obvious decline also gets an airing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    threeball wrote: »
    He claims to be tee total but he sounds like he's sauced most of the time. Like a rambling drunk in a pub. Either that or all the cocaine has melted the few braincells he ever had.

    He sounded even crazier than usual there, :eek: and that is saying something!
    Horrific to realise that that raving lunatic is President of the USA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,766 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    biko wrote: »
    Loving how the attacks from both sides are getting medical.
    Joe is demented and Trump has weird arm spasms.

    Reminds me of the attacks and defence around

    Sigh. Slow day on boards, let's trot out some anti-HRC stuff. So 2016.


  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    all of the attacks from trump supporters are around Bidens decline. they post them on an endless loop. Only fair that Trumps obvious decline also gets an airing.

    There is a big difference in fairness. Trump is still working as President and actively campaigning and giving long speeches just like he has for the previous 4 years. Biden on the other hand, God love him, he seems to be hanging by a thread every time he opens his mouth. It's really sad to see and I feel his family should not let him embarrass himself like this. If they have a head to head debate it will be a bloodbath Trump will murder him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,766 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    There is a big difference in fairness. Trump is still working as President and actively campaigning and giving long speeches just like he has for the previous 4 years. Biden on the other hand, God love him, he seems to be hanging by a thread every time he opens his mouth. It's really sad to see and I feel his family should not let him embarrass himself like this. If they have a head to head debate it will be a bloodbath Trump will murder him.

    Nah. You're telling porkies. Biden sounds fine every time he speaks. Town hall went fine. Various speeches have been enjoyable.

    Versus rambling incoherence for hours at Nuremberg rallies. Debates are next week. Bring 'em on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    There is a big difference in fairness. Trump is still working as President and actively campaigning and giving long speeches just like he has for the previous 4 years. Biden on the other hand, God love him, he seems to be hanging by a thread every time he opens his mouth. It's really sad to see and I feel his family should not let him embarrass himself like this. If they have a head to head debate it will be a bloodbath Trump will murder him.

    You should probably watch both of their town hall discussions, only one came across as a bumbling fool and it wasn't Biden.

    Trump won't have his rent-a-mob behind him for the debates so no crowd to play up to. He won't answer a single question and will instead go on long rants about anything and everything (the way he has for the last four years).

    All Biden has to do is stay calm and call him out everytime he lies (which will be plenty) and make Trump look like a fool.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Oh Joe :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GPD-0aMVQ

    I'm beginning to think it may be funnier if he wins than if the Donald does again :pac: Either way America is going to be a basket case for years to come.

    Debates will be epic


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    There is a big difference in fairness. Trump is still working as President and actively campaigning and giving long speeches just like he has for the previous 4 years. Biden on the other hand, God love him, he seems to be hanging by a thread every time he opens his mouth. It's really sad to see and I feel his family should not let him embarrass himself like this. If they have a head to head debate it will be a bloodbath Trump will murder him.

    It's more than likely too late for the Democrats to pull him out now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    There is a big difference in fairness. Trump is still working as President and actively campaigning and giving long speeches just like he has for the previous 4 years. Biden on the other hand, God love him, he seems to be hanging by a thread every time he opens his mouth. It's really sad to see and I feel his family should not let him embarrass himself like this. If they have a head to head debate it will be a bloodbath Trump will murder him.

    have you actually watched any of the clips of trump speaking? rambling and incoherent are the words that spring to mind. did you watch the two town halls? biden was able to answer coherently. from trumps replies you couldn't work out what the question was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Oh Joe :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GPD-0aMVQ

    I'm beginning to think it may be funnier if he wins than if the Donald does again :pac: Either way America is going to be a basket case for years to come.

    Debates will be epic

    did you spend your day looking for clips of biden to post? SAD!!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Oh Joe :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GPD-0aMVQ

    I'm beginning to think it may be funnier if he wins than if the Donald does again :pac: Either way America is going to be a basket case for years to come.

    Debates will be epic

    Ah yes , nothing like an 8 second clip to provide full context and background.

    Nothing from the Trump campaign about Policy or anything like that no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Sigh. Slow day on boards, let's trot out some anti-HRC stuff. So 2016.
    You mean IMFLOTUS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    biko wrote: »
    You mean IMFLOTUS?

    Was Hillary ever impeached?


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  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm waiting to see the excuses about the debates, I'm guessing they'll follow the line that Trump is using atm by claiming Biden is on performance enhancing drugs.


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