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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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    #8132
    Kidchameleon
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    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    A more accurate display of how infantile the left are. They have no respect or decorum.


    I'm not having a go at any particular ideology here but the individuals who shouted at him at that moment are a complete disgrace. That video actually turned my stomach and it takes a fair amount to upset me.


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    #8133
    Kidchameleon
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Trump will come up with some excuse as to why he can't do the second or third debates.


    How can you say that when Trump has actually been asking for a extra debate?


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    #8134
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I'm not having a go at any particular ideology here but the individuals who shouted at him at that moment are a complete disgrace. That video actually turned my stomach and it takes a fair amount to upset me.

    Did you get equally upset when people changed "Lock her up" about HRC?


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    #8135
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    How can you say that when Trump has actually been asking for a extra debate?

    He asked for an extra debate, wanted to choose the venue and moderators. Yeah, he really wanted that to happen :pac:


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    #8136
    salmocab
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Did you get equally upset when people changed "Lock her up" about HRC?

    No apparently it takes a fair amount to upset him, I think the hyperbole turns the stomach.


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    #8137
    Kidchameleon
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Did you get equally upset when people changed "Lock her up" about HRC?

    No because Hillary was not laying in a coffin at the time.
    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh Biden will show up, he will obliterate Yrump in the first debate.

    Like he obliterated the reporter who asked him about his sons shady past? Oh wait, that's right, he engaged in whataboutery.


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    #8138
    Faugheen
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Like he obliterated the reporter who asked him about his sons shady past? Oh wait, that's right, he engaged in whataboutery.

    Whataboutery, Trump still talks about Obama.


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    #8139
    Leroy42
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I'm not having a go at any particular ideology here but the individuals who shouted at him at that moment are a complete disgrace. That video actually turned my stomach and it takes a fair amount to upset me.

    And Trump is largely to blame for the movement down to that level. He has consistently disrespected all around him, calling people ugly, stupid, corrupt and refusing to show respect at people's death, such as John McCain.

    So any discomfort you feel is directly attributable to Trump for the way he has bebased both the office he holds but also the nature of debate.


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    #8140
    duploelabs
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I'm not having a go at any particular ideology here but the individuals who shouted at him at that moment are a complete disgrace. That video actually turned my stomach and it takes a fair amount to upset me.

    Won't somebody think of the trumpettes [/HELEN LOVEJOY]


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    #8141
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    This was discussed recently with link's etc. you may have missed it but Trumps first response regarding the death did not mention replacing her whilst Bidens did.

    Less than 48 hours after her death, he was selling t-shirts with "fill the seat" on it... So spare me with the pretense of claiming he's classy.
    one world order wrote: »
    The pandora box was opened when Obama was in office. He pushed the anti-christ LGBTQ spirit and tried to remove God from society. Now we have all these people programmed by the devil through media and the education system that have hatred in their hearts of Trump and what he stands for. So many rebellious people in today's world that deny God and resort to violence to bring in a twisted form of government control and censorship.

    In fairness you're a good representative of a fair proportion of Trump's base. Carry on.


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    #8142
    ohnonotgmail
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    one world order wrote: »
    The pandora box was opened when Obama was in office. He pushed the anti-christ LGBTQ spirit and tried to remove God from society. Now we have all these people programmed by the devil through media and the education system that have hatred in their hearts of Trump and what he stands for. So many rebellious people in today's world that deny God and resort to violence to bring in a twisted form of government control and censorship.

    stick that nonsense in here where it belongs https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=333


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    #8143
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    one world order wrote: »
    The pandora box was opened when Obama was in office. He pushed the anti-christ LGBTQ spirit and tried to remove God from society. Now we have all these people programmed by the devil through media and the education system that have hatred in their hearts of Trump and what he stands for. So many rebellious people in today's world that deny God and resort to violence to bring in a twisted form of government control and censorship.

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State

    Thomas Jefferson 1802


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    #8144
    Kidchameleon
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Less than 48 hours after her death, he was selling t-shirts with "fill the seat" on it... So spare me with the pretense of claiming he's classy.


    Was Trump selling them personally? Or was somebody who supports the president selling them?


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    #8145
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Was Trump selling them personally? Or was somebody who supports the president selling them?

    Well he hasn't set up a stall outside of the whitehouse yet but here you go

    https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/fill-that-seat-tee


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    #8146
    Kidchameleon
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Well he hasn't set up a stall outside of the whitehouse yet but here you go

    https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/fill-that-seat-tee


    Whilst I do like some of their hats I agree it is very disrespectful and stupid for that store to have t-shirts with that slogan


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    #8147
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Whilst I do like some of their hats I agree it is very disrespectful and stupid for that store to have t-shirts with that slogan

    He's just reaping the vitriol that he has sown for the last four years.


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    #8148
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Whilst I do like some of their hats I agree it is very disrespectful and stupid for that store to have t-shirts with that slogan

    Plus like yourself he pushed the angle that there was no deathbed wish which showed zero respect to Ginsburg's grieving family. He basically made them into part of a Democrats conspiracy.


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    #8149
    Kidchameleon
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Plus like yourself he pushed the angle that there was no deathbed wish which showed zero respect to Ginsburg's grieving family. He basically made them into part of a Democrats conspiracy.


    I genuinely don't believe it was a deathbed wish for reasons I outlined previously. But I could be wrong of course, I was not there.


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    #8150
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I genuinely don't believe it was a deathbed wish for reasons I outlined previously. But I could be wrong of course, I was not there.

    Ya, so her family is complicit in a conspiracy that claims she made a deathbed wish. You can believe it but it's nonsense.


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    #8151
    ohnonotgmail
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I genuinely don't believe it was a deathbed wish for reasons I outlined previously. But I could be wrong of course, I was not there.

    you're saying that her daughter is lying.


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    #8152
    Danzy
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you're saying that her daughter is lying.

    Maybe she is, maybe she isnt, probably isn't nearly certainly isn't but either way it is irrelevant to the filling of the seat or governance in Anerica.


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    #8153
    ohnonotgmail
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    Danzy wrote: »
    Maybe she is, maybe she isnt, probably isn't nearly certainly isn't but either way it is irrelevant to the filling of the seat or governance in Anerica.

    well no, kidchameleon is saying that the daughter is lying. are you saying the same?


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    #8154
    Kidchameleon
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well no, kidchameleon is saying that the daughter is lying. are you saying the same?


    I never said she was lying. People can be mistaken in times of grief.


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    #8155
    ohnonotgmail
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I never said she was lying. People can be mistaken in times of grief.

    you have no idea what her state of mind is. It is quite simple. she is either lying or telling the truth. your mothers deathbed wishes are not something you get confused about. you are calling a grieving woman a liar because it suits your political affiliations.


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    #8156
    salmocab
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you have no idea what her state of mind is. It is quite simple. she is either lying or telling the truth. your mothers deathbed wishes are not something you get confused about. you are calling a grieving woman a liar because it suits your political affiliations.

    The thing is as Danzy said her wishes aren’t really relevant but for some reason Trump and his minions still push another conspiracy.


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    #8157
    Danzy
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well no, kidchameleon is saying that the daughter is lying. are you saying the same?

    Reread my post. I think it is nearly certain she isn't.

    It is no relevance though and a personal family anecdote.


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    #8158
    ohnonotgmail
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    Danzy wrote: »
    Reread my post. I think it is nearly certain she isn't.

    It is no relevance though and a personal family anecdote.

    so kidchameleon is wrong?


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    #8159
    Kidchameleon
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you have no idea what her state of mind is. It is quite simple. she is either lying or telling the truth. your mothers deathbed wishes are not something you get confused about. you are calling a grieving woman a liar because it suits your political affiliations.


    Your right. I made an error of judgement. Apologies.


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    #8160
    Danzy
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so kidchameleon is wrong?

    He said above he never said he was lying.

    Serious news outlets in America had people on talking about it as if it had any relevance to the Scotus or America.

    Relevant to the family but no more than that. Chuck Schumer tried to add it to a resolution, lol.

    It's what one does in an election. Can't knock them for playing the game.


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    #8161
    ohnonotgmail
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    Danzy wrote: »
    He said above he never said he was lying.

    Serious news outlets in America had people on talking about it as if it had any relevance to the Scotus or America.

    Relevant to the family but no more than that. Chuck Schumer tried to add it to a resolution, lol.

    It's what one does in an election. Can't knock them for playing the game.

    they describe the accusation as an error of judgement. that sounds like they were wrong to me.


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