2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Danzy

salmocab wrote: »

I’m not sure why this is allowed it’s just posts with no content

9 days off in a month, that's concerning.

If posts with no content or the same boll9xology repeated page after page is an issue, this thread would be closed a long time.

timsey tiger

Eric Cartman wrote: »

No, that poll has him winning, others have him ahead of where he was in 2016 in the same timeframe.

Fivethirtyeight have some merit but they were wrong last time and nate silver never owned up to it.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Trump has spent a reported 200 mil on florida
The israel ties are favourable to the considerable amoun of older jews. The cubans love him, multiple polls put him winning / way ahead of biden vs similar ones in 2016 v hilary

Yeah whatever. Any evidence of these multiple polls. Here are the polls RCP had 4 years ago.link.

For polls with sampling period endng in September to 21/9. They had a tie in one with Trump ahead in 4 and Clinton ahead in three.

Currently, for similar polls we have a tie in three with Trump ahead in two and Biden ahead in seven.

All these polls are up on the RCP site for anybody to see. I don't know what you are looking at or how you are twisting reality in your head, but just pop up the evidence for the rest of us. Or give us a break and stop posting fantasy as fact.

DangerScouse

salmocab wrote: »

I’m not sure why this is allowed it’s just posts with no content

I'm genuinely concerned about Joe's energy levels. He needs to get there and win over voters. Are you happy with his performance levels?

Report button is available if you don't think it should be allowed BTW.

Thanks

Eric Cartman

duploelabs wrote: »

So then Al Capone shouldn't have been jailed then?

We all know that wasnt why al capone was put in prison, they just used the only tool they had. A terrible argument

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Florida and the result of the whole election for starters

That’s not analysis, that’s a statement. An incorrect one.

They didn’t get it wrong, they predicted the possibility of outcomes based on the data available.

What do you believe was wrong with their methodology.

DangerScouse

Liberals seem to think criminality is a mistake now.

duploelabs

DangerScouse wrote: »

I'm genuinely concerned about Joe's energy levels. He needs to get there and win over voters. Are you happy with his performance levels?

Report button is available if you don't think it should be allowed BTW.

Thanks

What did you get the warning for again?

Leroy42

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why? Because the Trump family is up to its neck in it?


You seriously think that a 20 year old kid that commits a non violent felony deserves to lose their right to vote for the rest of their lives?

Why? what is the link between a felony charge and not having the ability to make an informed decision?

Would all felonies carry this? Level D, for example is

Some examples of Class D felonies in Connecticut are:

Carrying a handgun without a permit

You think that is enoughto remove a person constitutional right to a vote?

Leroy42

DangerScouse wrote: »

Liberals seem to think criminality is a mistake now.

What, where was that said. Can you quote the post you are basing that on?

Brian?

DangerScouse wrote: »

I'm genuinely concerned about Joe's energy levels. He needs to get there and win over voters. Are you happy with his performance levels?

Report button is available if you don't think it should be allowed BTW.

Thanks

Joe doesn’t need to campaign. Trump is out there winning the election for Joe.

Spending as little time in public is the responsible thing to do. He’s a man in his 70s during a global pandemic. He’s leading by example. Trump is out holding rallies that turn into super spreaders of coronavirus.

salmocab

DangerScouse wrote: »

I'm genuinely concerned about Joe's energy levels. He needs to get there and win over voters. Are you happy with his performance levels?

Report button is available if you don't think it should be allowed BTW.

Thanks

Your not in anyway concerned about him, your just Having digs by posting the same thing over and over using slightly Different words.

Brian?

DangerScouse wrote: »

Liberals seem to think criminality is a mistake now.

What liberals? Where?

Cody montana

Joe is taking time off to prep for the debates, trumps is taking time off to post on twitter and watch tv for the last 4 years.

timsey tiger

Cody montana wrote: »

Joe is taking time off to prep for the debates, trumps is taking time off to post on twitter and watch tv for the last 4 years.

... and cheat a lot at golf.

ranto_boy

Cody montana wrote: »

Joe is taking time off to prep for the debates, trumps is taking time off to post on twitter and watch tv for the last 4 years.

He's been practicing for 9 of the past 24 days? Unable to do anything else in public on those days? And the prep must be weird, given how it's announced on the day with no warning.

Let's hope he has a "good day" in a few weeks.

Danzy

Brian? wrote: »

Joe doesn’t need to campaign. Trump is out there winning the election for Joe.

Spending as little time in public is the responsible thing to do. He’s a man in his 70s during a global pandemic. He’s leading by example. Trump is out holding rallies that turn into super spreaders of coronavirus.

So he can't do media interviews, put out videos, zoom calls etc cause Covid.

I get you are battling for your side but 9 days in a month off before a campaign is shocking stuff.

namloc1980

DangerScouse wrote: »

Liberals seem to think criminality is a mistake now.

You don't know what a liberal is or what liberalism is. Just like those Trumpists who claim that Joe Biden is a socialist or marxist. They haven't a notion what socialism or marxism is but it sounded good on Fox News so they just mindlessly repeat it.

Eric Cartman

namloc1980 wrote: »

You don't know what a liberal is or what liberalism is. Just like those Trumpists who claim that Joe Biden is a socialist or marxist. They haven't a notion what socialism or marxism is but it sounded good on Fox News so they just mindlessly repeat it.

people have called him a liberal or left (which he is by US definition) , don't think anyone called Biden a marxist .

I suppose you'll condemn the people who call trump a fascist and a nazi too though ?

timsey tiger

Eric Cartman wrote: »

people have called him a liberal or left (which he is by US definition) , don't think anyone called Biden a marxist .

I suppose you'll condemn the people who call trump a fascist and a nazi too though ?

Guess you are not going to show these multiple polls.

duploelabs

Danzy wrote: »

So he can't do media interviews, put out videos, zoom calls etc cause Covid.

I get you are battling for your side but 9 days in a month off before a campaign is shocking stuff.

What do you think Trump does in his oft-reported and verified 'executive time'?

Timberrrrrrrr

Danzy wrote: »

So he can't do media interviews, put out videos, zoom calls etc cause Covid.

I get you are battling for your side but 9 days in a month off before a campaign is shocking stuff.

But watching TV for eight hours a day is fine lol

Danzy

Danzy wrote: »

So he can't do media interviews, put out videos, zoom calls etc cause Covid.

I get you are battling for your side but 9 days in a month off before a campaign is shocking stuff.

It seems to be the strategy for Biden. Keep him off the airwaves and out of public as much as possible. It's like he will not do any better than he is now, so the plan is to hold the exsiting voters by saying squat.

Cody montana

ranto_boy wrote: »

He's been practicing for 9 of the past 24 days? Unable to do anything else in public on those days? And the prep must be weird, given how it's announced on the day with no warning.

Let's hope he has a "good day" in a few weeks.

You do know they’re in the middle of a pandemic that’s killed over 200 thousand Americans.
Sounds very sensible to me.

The debate is Tuesday.

Penn

Deleted User wrote: »

It seems to be the strategy for Biden. Keep him off the airwaves and out of public as much as possible. It's like he will not do any better than he is now, so the plan is to hold the exsiting voters by saying squat.

Agreed. Half the interviews he does end up with either edited versions by the radical right to spread disinformation, or he might stutter over a word or two and have people make all sorts of false claims.

Whereas Trump does more damage to himself every time he speaks publicly.

Biden's best tactic is to let Trump show himself up, spreading lies and coronavirus at his public rallies. Biden just has to make a few appearances here and there.

namloc1980

Eric Cartman wrote: »

people have called him a liberal or left (which he is by US definition) , don't think anyone called Biden a marxist .

I suppose you'll condemn the people who call trump a fascist and a nazi too though ?

Do you know what liberalism is?

Eric Cartman

namloc1980 wrote: »

Do you know what liberalism is?

well theres a difference between classic liberalism, Neo liberalism etc.. I'm not calling him a liberal, just saying what people have called him, and marxist isn't something I've seen on here.

are you going to equally condemn those who call trump a nazi or fascist ?

Brian?

Danzy wrote: »

So he can't do media interviews, put out videos, zoom calls etc cause Covid.

I get you are battling for your side but 9 days in a month off before a campaign is shocking stuff.

I’m not battling for my side. I’m stating the bleeding obvious.


Every time Biden appears in public, his videos are sliced up and posted on Twitter to make him look senile. Even though the original footage is always fine and sometimes good.

Every time Trump appears in public he makes Joe look like a genius.

If I were Joe’s campaign manager I’d have him wrapped in cotton wool in a basement 6 days a week. Trump is winning him the election. He’s pulling away from Trump in most of the states he needs and holding steady in others.

All Biden needs to do now is makes ads for the swing states and show up ready at the debates. A good performance at the debates and he goes back into hiding. A poor one and he he hits the trail. He just needs to keep it between the ditches and it give Trump a gift of a huge gaffe.

timsey tiger

Eric Cartman wrote: »

well theres a difference between classic liberalism, Neo liberalism etc.. I'm not calling him a liberal, just saying what people have called him, and marxist isn't something I've seen on here.

are you going to equally condemn those who call trump a nazi or fascist ?

Any chance of showing us those multiple polls? Now, I'm not calling you a liar, just saying people have ...

Eric Cartman

timsey tiger wrote: »

Any chance of showing us those multiple polls? Now, I'm not calling you a liar, just saying people have ...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-national-polls-2020-vs-2016/

aggregated data from multiple polls on RCP show Clinton polled far higher against Donald trump across the entire election timeline than Joe Biden is. My point stands, they're closer.

Leroy42

On that link, the charts seem to show that 39 days out Biden is up 6.5%, HC was up 2.9% 39 days out.

Doesn't that put Biden in a stronger position?