2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

DangerScouse

mike_ie wrote: »

Mod: You were given fair warning. Don't post in the thread again.

Hilarious. All the digs the same posters have given about the president and surprise surprise no warnings given. Yawn. So predictable :eek:

timsey tiger

DangerScouse wrote: »

Can't wait until Wednesday morning for the meltdown in here. Mods will more than likely attempt to bar me and other posters who point out Biden as the extremely weak candidate he is because of their hatred for the president.

Good times.

Sounds like you have already writtten your posts for next Wednesday. If you do get banned this might have more to do with it than any mods lack of objectivity.

Muahahaha

Didnt know CNN have an Irish lad (Donie o'Sullivan) working for them as a reporter on technology, disinformation & politics. Anyway he went to a Trump rally and asked Trump supporters to show him their Facebook feed on their phone which had manipulated videos of Biden supposedly falling asleep during a live tv interview. When shown it was someone else who fell asleep and Biden was photoshopped into the video the Trump supporter could only say 'well its still funny'. He had nothing at all to say about the fake news that he had swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Its a good watch for an insight into the cult of Trump suppoerters. Even when shown definitive proof of fake news they refuse to believe it is fake because it doesnt follow the cults narrative.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/09/24/facebook-trump-supporters-fact-check-misinformation-orig-me.cnn

Tokyo

DangerScouse wrote: »

Hilarious. All the digs the same posters have given about the president and surprise surprise no warnings given. Yawn. So predictable :eek:

Mod: Banned from the forum for a week.

Muahahaha

Fox News released polls last night of swing states. Trump is not doing much of the winning bigly that he promised us, in fact Biden now leads by 50% or more in all three states and they reported the undecideds are now very small numbers of voters.

Nevada
Biden 52%
Trump 41%

Ohio
Biden 50%
Trump 45%

Pennsylvania
Biden 51%
Trump 44%

This was an earlier picture of Trump watching the poll results on Fox News, he is not happy at losing bigly

timsey tiger

Muahahaha wrote: »

This was an earlier picture of Trump watching the poll results on Fox News, he is not happy at losing bigly

I'm like that Trump supporter, I know it is fake news, but it is still funny.

Igotadose

Muahahaha wrote: »

Didnt know CNN have an Irish lad (Donie o'Sullivan) working for them as a reporter on technology, disinformation & politics. Anyway he went to a Trump rally and asked Trump supporters to show him their Facebook feed on their phone which had manipulated videos of Biden supposedly falling asleep during a live tv interview. When shown it was someone else who fell asleep and Biden was photoshopped into the video the Trump supporter could only say 'well its still funny'. He had nothing at all to say about the fake news that he had swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Its a good watch for an insight into the cult of Trump suppoerters. Even when shown definitive proof of fake news they refuse to believe it is fake because it doesnt follow the cults narrative.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/09/24/facebook-trump-supporters-fact-check-misinformation-orig-me.cnn

I watched that part of it live this a.m.. Seems the supporter actually admitted 'oh, I guess this one got through' that is, he was fooled, but 'oooh! Washington post' was his next comment.

When the reporter asked another attendee why he wouldn't take opinions from those that disagree with him, he said "Because those people call me stupid" and a bunch of them chimed in with "ignorant!" He went on to say, waving his arms around, "I've got thousands that agree with me!"

To me, that was particularly chilling. Glad I'm not living in the US anymore.

It really is #CULT45.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, but then I can't picture a Democrat offering Trump a similar kind of courtesy or civility also. He faces unrelenting hostility 24/7.

Obama's is incredibly respectful. Trump is likely to send multiple insulting tweets.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html

salmocab

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

are you really judging trump on something he may do/not do in the future?

It’s an election that’s what people have to do

breezy1985

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Obama's is incredibly respectful. Trump is likely to send multiple insulting tweets.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html

I think he will get over the line somehow but if he does lose it will be so interesting to see how he tries to spin it as being what he wanted

y0ssar1an22

salmocab wrote: »

It’s an election that’s what people have to do

thats true to an extent.

judge both based upon the platform they're running on, their record to date, and how you think they will handle the next 4 years.

Not on something as unspecic as a letter to an ex president, that may or may not be written.

PropJoe10

Deleted User wrote: »

No, but then I can't picture a Democrat offering Trump a similar kind of courtesy or civility also. He faces unrelenting hostility 24/7.

You get what you deserve in life. Those who want respect, give respect.

Muahahaha

Muahahaha wrote: »

Didnt know CNN have an Irish lad (Donie o'Sullivan) working for them as a reporter on technology, disinformation & politics. Anyway he went to a Trump rally and asked Trump supporters to show him their Facebook feed on their phone which had manipulated videos of Biden supposedly falling asleep during a live tv interview. When shown it was someone else who fell asleep and Biden was photoshopped into the video the Trump supporter could only say 'well its still funny'. He had nothing at all to say about the fake news that he had swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Its a good watch for an insight into the cult of Trump suppoerters. Even when shown definitive proof of fake news they refuse to believe it is fake because it doesnt follow the cults narrative.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/09/24/facebook-trump-supporters-fact-check-misinformation-orig-me.cnn

There's similar videos showing liberals quotes from Trump on immigration and asked their opinions. The answers are predictable, "racist", "xenophobic", "nazi" etc until the interviewer reveals that it was actually Obama who said the quotes. The visual clarity of seeing their brains short circuiting is amazing.

Igotadose

Igotadose wrote: »

I watched that part of it live this a.m.. Seems the supporter actually admitted 'oh, I guess this one got through' that is, he was fooled, but 'oooh! Washington post' was his next comment.

When the reporter asked another attendee why he wouldn't take opinions from those that disagree with him, he said "Because those people call me stupid" and a bunch of them chimed in with "ignorant!" He went on to say, waving his arms around, "I've got thousands that agree with me!"

To me, that was particularly chilling. Glad I'm not living in the US anymore.

It really is #CULT45.

Aren't there similar people on both sides? It's like the black Trump supporters who ask Trump's protesters "how is he racist", they stumble and go all mealy mouthed because they never have facts or an actual argument. They usually only need to keep repeating the mantra that "Trump is racist" and they rarely are ever held to account as to how exactly that is the case. Total cult behaviour.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Obama's is incredibly respectful. Trump is likely to send multiple insulting tweets.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html

For what it's worth, I think it's even more classy when the loser is gracious against the person they were directly campaigning against. Obama didn't lose to Trump, his term ended so it's much easier to do that. Maybe Obama even was slightly happy Hillary didn't get in after how nasty the 2008 primary was.

PropJoe10

Deleted User wrote: »

For what it's worth, I think it's even more classy when the loser is gracious against the person they were directly campaigning against. Obama didn't lose to Trump, his term ended so it's much easier to do that. Maybe Obama even was slightly happy Hillary didn't get in after how nasty the 2008 primary was.

That is some epic straw grasping right there. Why in the name of God would Hillary Clinton have been gracious towards Trump considering some of the things he said about her? By the way, she did phone him on election night to wish him well, to be rewarded with this "lock her up" crap and constant abuse from Trump for the last 4 years.

Muahahaha

Igotadose wrote: »

I watched that part of it live this a.m.. Seems the supporter actually admitted 'oh, I guess this one got through' that is, he was fooled, but 'oooh! Washington post' was his next comment.

When the reporter asked another attendee why he wouldn't take opinions from those that disagree with him, he said "Because those people call me stupid" and a bunch of them chimed in with "ignorant!" He went on to say, waving his arms around, "I've got thousands that agree with me!"

To me, that was particularly chilling. Glad I'm not living in the US anymore.

It really is #CULT45.

Yeah it was an eye opener to see Trump supporters literally shown fake news and when it was debunked right in front of them they still refuse to believe it. Its particularly scary that you have people like that who are so invested in the cult that they will refuse to believe what their own eyes are telling them. Whats worse is these voters will still exist even if Trump loses so they are ripe to be taken over by another cult like leader.

PropJoe10

PropJoe10 wrote: »

That is some epic straw grasping right there. Why in the name of God would Hillary Clinton have been gracious towards Trump considering some of the things he said about her? By the way, she did phone him on election night to wish him well, to be rewarded with this "lock her up" crap and constant abuse from Trump for the last 4 years.

I'm saying Obama might not have been too unhappy that Hillary was defeated. She pulled out every smear in the book to try and win the Democaratic nomination in 2008. Don't think there was much love lost between them but he had to suck it up and giver her a job under orders of the party who were already thinking about getting her elected after Obama.

duploelabs

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm saying Obama might not have been too unhappy that Hillary was defeated. She pulled out every smear in the book to try and win the Democaratic nomination in 2008. Don't think there was much love lost between them but he had to suck it up and giver her a job under orders of the party who were already thinking about getting her elected after Obama.

Well he made her secretary of state...

Danzy

duploelabs wrote: »

Well he made her secretary of state...

Doesn't mean he didn't hate her guts and like wise.

ohnonotgmail

Danzy wrote: »

Doesn't mean he didn't hate her guts and like wise.

you really shouldn't project your own hatred of her onto others.

dwayneshintzy

Deleted User wrote: »

Aren't there similar people on both sides? It's like the black Trump supporters who ask Trump's protesters "how is he racist", they stumble and go all mealy mouthed because they never have facts or an actual argument. They usually only need to keep repeating the mantra that "Trump is racist" and they rarely are ever held to account as to how exactly that is the case. Total cult behaviour.

There are plenty of instances that people can point to.....are you claiming that there's no argument to Trump being racist, or just some specific people in a video you're talking about but haven't linked?


I'm sure you'll deride the sources and ignore the content, but here's some links laying out arguments for Trump's racism. Racial discrimination in housing, the Central Park 5, Obama's birth cert, etc....


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump (wikipedia link yes, but every instance is referenced)

MeMen2_MoRi_

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There's similar videos showing liberals quotes from Trump on immigration and asked their opinions. The answers are predictable, "racist", "xenophobic", "nazi" etc until the interviewer reveals that it was actually Obama who said the quotes. The visual clarity of seeing their brains short circuiting is amazing.

Which group would you like to be in, considering the responses to finding out they've been duped?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm saying Obama might not have been too unhappy that Hillary was defeated. She pulled out every smear in the book to try and win the Democaratic nomination in 2008. Don't think there was much love lost between them but he had to suck it up and giver her a job under orders of the party who were already thinking about getting her elected after Obama.

Wait, Trump was subjecting Obama to racist conspiracies and abuse for years. He was also intent on dismantling everything done under Obama's presidency. So Obama writing such a letter is an expectation but he has far more reason to dislike Trump over Clinton. On top of that, Clinton was in his administration so he pretty clearly got over everything that happened in 2008....

Trump supporters make some weird inferences..

y0ssar1an22

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

There are plenty of instances that people can point to.....are you claiming that there's no argument to Trump being racist, or just some specific people in a video you're talking about but haven't linked?


I'm sure you'll deride the sources and ignore the content, but here's some links laying out arguments for Trump's racism. Racial discrimination in housing, the Central Park 5, Obama's birth cert, etc....


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump (wikipedia link yes, but every instance is referenced)

are you saying trump is racist? or there is systemic racism in existence in america? or both/neither?

not what people say, what you think.

ohnonotgmail

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

are you saying trump is racist? or there is systemic racism in existence in america? or both/neither?

not what people say, what you think.

i'm convinced he is racist. and systemic racism mos definitely exists in the US.

y0ssar1an22

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm convinced he is racist. and systemic racism mos definitely exists in the US.

i'm sure you know the follow up questions here:

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

duploelabs

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm sure you know the follow up questions here:

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

The proof for the first is above

Tell me how

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

Made a point of making sure people knew he supported white supremacy.
Was prosecuted for denying a rental property to black people
Took out a full page ad advocating for the death penalty for 5 youths wrongly convicted of a crime.
His niece published in her book that he has used racial slurs.
He referred to some countries with largely black populations as ****h*le countries.
Has spoken in a derogatory manner towards US political representatives who are non-white and suggested that they aren't American.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

26 examples here

ohnonotgmail

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm sure you know the follow up questions here:

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

sure but what would be the point? you would just ignore it. you have no interest in a debate.