2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Justin Credible Darts

Tell me how wrote: »

Hillary lost dude. Get over it.

Get over what ?
I guess I am going to have to make it simple for you also.


I am not an american, I am neither a trump or biden supporter.
I have no time for hilary either, so why I need to "get over it" is beyond me.


The discussion of the standard of candidates of the democrat party is a valid discussion, and if you feel you dont want to discuss it, no one is forcing you to reply.


Maybe you are not grasping things, and cannot see how the discussion on the caliber of candidates is a separate thing to trump.

osarusan

Sorolla wrote: »

Joes people are from Ballina - I think they might have come over with Humbert - Joe will be a great friend to Ireland

Donald had a great love for Ireland and has a beautiful property in Doonbeg

No matter who wins a friend of Ireland will be next President

For us it is a win win situation

Neither of them give a shyte about Ireland.


Apart from Brexit and St Patrick's day photo ops, Ireland won't even enter their heads.

Quin_Dub

Sorolla wrote: »

There I believe you are wrong - even before he became President it was well known he was a big lover of Ireland.

His mother was a great friend of the great Irish tenor, Frank Patterson.

He will also come to Ireland to celebrate St Patricks Day in 2021

He loves us

On what basis?

He'd never been here until the day he signed the deeds for Doonbeg and the only reason he visited here a while back was to gin up some business for the place.

Sod all to do with "love"

Quin_Dub

Deleted User wrote: »

He was the winner out of the system that they had set up. Agreed. However he's not a candidate any Democrats feel much love about, as Michael Moore said. Trump supporters will queue for 2 days to get in to hear him speak. There's nothing like the enthusiasm on the Biden side.

I've got to honest , I'd view that as a positive.

Anyone who queues up for any length of time to hear a politician speak needs help in my view.

The relationship that some Trump supporters have with him is deeply unhealthy.

Travelling around to attend multiple rallies , queuing for hours/days to see him - That's not normal behaviour for a functioning adult , that's a cult.

weisses

DraftDodger wrote: »

America is craving change. Obama promised and failed

What are the reasons for Obama's "Failure" ?

gmisk

EXCLUSIVE: Channel 4 News investigation reveals a huge Trump campaign data leak, exposing how 3.5 million Black Americans were listed as ‘Deterrence’ - to try to stop them voting in 2016.

#DeterringDemocracy https://t.co/wkxKfbynu6

Yikes this is pretty damning stuff.

gmisk

I wonder will this be picked up in US news cycle?

weisses

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Donald has no great love of anyone or anything other than himself.

And Greenland ....... apparently

Justin Credible Darts

Trump loves northern ireland..........he is a big orange man...:D

mcmoustache

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Joe himself done the same thing when his sons board appointment was brought up

I guess that if corruption is to be an issue in a two horse race, then it's only fair to compare both by that metric. When a Trump fan brings up possible corruption with Biden, there's an implication there that corruption is bad and should factor into one's decision on the suitability of a candidate. So, given that corruption is bad and that one candidate must be selected out of two, then the natural next step in rational thinking is not to ask, "which of them has zero corruption" but "how do they compare in terms of corruption".


All of that assumes that the accusations of corruption are in good faith. In other words, that the Trump fan is against corruption and that this factored into their decision to support Trump. That is, to any reasonable and informed person, asinine. Trump's corruption is well documented, both in government charging documents and in his own words and behaviour while Biden's is more ethereal and dreamlike.


This might be the reason for the contempt that Trump fans receive whenever they bring up Hunter Biden.

1800_Ladladlad

extra gravy wrote: »

Posting shiit jokes now, did you run out of videos?

Another early finish today. Biden has a battery life worse than the iphone 5 did. Will the moderator of the debate be helping him out like this presenter had to?

https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1309908236598996994

Justin Credible Darts

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Another early finish today. Biden has a battery life worse than the iphone 5 did. Will the moderator of the debate be helping out like this woman had to?

https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1309908236598996994

"something about trump not paying taxes or something......must deflect...."

mcmoustache

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Another early finish today. Biden has a battery life worse than the iphone 5 did. Will the moderator of the debate be helping out like this woman had to?

https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1309908236598996994

My post above equally applies to this. Is losing one's train of thought a deal-breaker for you? Is it something that a US presidential candidate should be judged on?

dinorebel

Sorolla wrote: »

He will also come to Ireland to celebrate St Patricks Day in 2021

He loves us

Hopefully as a private citizen.

breezy1985

weisses wrote: »

And Greenland ....... apparently

And pornstars. Hes loved a few of them

DraftDodger

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Another early finish today. Biden has a battery life worse than the iphone 5 did. Will the moderator of the debate be helping him out like this presenter had to?

https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1309908236598996994

Jesus. That's frankly embarrassing for Joe

PropJoe10

DraftDodger wrote: »

I laughed at a companion of mine who said to me over 10 years ago now America will have a civil war in our lifetimes (I'm 47). Over the last while I've had a feeling he could be right.

A very fcuked up country.

Yup. As i said, it's not really a functioning country. John Oliver's latest piece, while obviously extremely left-leaning, makes some good points about America's institutions and how they don't represent the majority of the population:

Dyr

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Another early finish today. Biden has a battery life worse than the iphone 5 did. Will the moderator of the debate be helping him out like this presenter had to?

https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1309908236598996994

Another clip where he calls yer wan John and then looks confused, someone pointed something out that I can't stop noticing, when he's blanking out he says "look" to try steady himself. It's all a bit weird tbh

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1309912861041397761

Rjd2

Bambi wrote: »

Another clip where he calls yer wan John and then looks confused, someone pointed something out that I can't stop noticing, when he's blanking out he says "look" to try steady himself. It's all a bit weird tbh

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1309912861041397761

In the grand scheme of things it pale into insignificance compared to all the horrors of the Trump regime, but it is a reminder not that it is needed that MSNBC are merely a DNC propaganda network ala Fox is with Trump.

extra gravy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Another early finish today. Biden has a battery life worse than the iphone 5 did. Will the moderator of the debate be helping him out like this presenter had to?

https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1309908236598996994

Better hurry up and get all of your dodgy video folder posted before tomorrow night because come Wednesday, it'll be clear who the "sleepy" one is and it won't be Biden.

duploelabs

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Trump loves northern ireland..........he is a big orange man...:D

Equally as ignorant and ambivalent to those outside their orange family

DraftDodger

Bambi wrote: »

Another clip where he calls yer wan John and then looks confused, someone pointed something out that I can't stop noticing, when he's blanking out he says "look" to try steady himself. It's all a bit weird tbh

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1309912861041397761

There's something just not right with him.

VicMackey1

Igotadose wrote: »

Yah. But crap from convicted felon O'Keeffe on Rep. Omar.

FACT CHECK...James O'Keefe was never convicted of a felony!

eire4

Rjd2 wrote: »

In the grand scheme of things it pale into insignificance compared to all the horrors of the Trump regime, but it is a reminder not that it is needed that MSNBC are merely a DNC propaganda network ala Fox is with Trump.

They are a corporate propaganda network that leans corporate Democrat more so IMHO. They have Republican anchors such as Nicole Wallace, Alex Witt and Joe Scarborough as well as numerous Republicans as regular contributors such as Michael Steel and Steve Schmidt. They certainly lean towards the corporate Democrats overall as a network but are nowhere near the level of fox which has played such a big role propaganda wise in the precipitous lurch of the Republican party towards being at best a semi-democratic far right party.

Muahahaha

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Ouch!!

After a reasonably steady run in recent times from his favourite pollster - Rasmussen , Trumps numbers fall off a cliff today.

9 point drop in Net approval rating in the figures today , from -2 to -11 - The lowest it's been in about 6/7 weeks.

48% say they "Strongly Disapprove" of him .

As far as I know the data published today would be from surveys done on Friday , so before the Tax information dropped over the week-end . Tomorrow could be interesting.

Thats fairly significant given it is from Rasmussen. These polls are well outside the margin of error of +/-3%, this is very bad news for Trump when a polling company who skews Republican is showing a 9% collapse.

Deleted User wrote: »

They're doing the same now, putting in a safe establishment guy rather than some of the young gun populist left wingers, the AOCs etc. When they lose, they will blame everyone but themselves.

You need to be at least 35 to run for Pre sident, AOC is only 29 so she cannot run until 2028 at the earliest. In any case Americans prefer their presidents to be older, the average age is in their early 60s. Sometimes you get charismatic outliers like Obama (47) , JFK (42) and Clinton (46) but most elected Presidents have been older than the vast majority of the population. The oldest person ever elected as President is Donald Trump at 70 years, the second oldest was Ronald Reagan at 69 years.

1800_Ladladlad

extra gravy wrote: »

Better hurry up and get all of your dodgy video folder posted before tomorrow night because come Wednesday, it'll be clear who the "sleepy" one is and it won't be Biden.

You'd think Joe would not be sleepy after all the early finishes he's been taken recently. He'd better have the best performance of his entire career prepared (a career which has been quite a lengthy one at that). While Trump has been running the country and campaigning throughout states, Bidens been in his basement doing scripted interviews getting lost looking at his notes and getting pissy with his teleprompter. The expectations are so low for Biden, if he can complete sentences, he’ll gain votes.

Dyr

Muahahaha wrote: »

You need to be at least 35 to run for Pre sident, AOC is only 29 so she cannot run until 2028 at the earliest. In any case Americans prefer their presidents to be older, the average age is in their early 60s. Sometimes you get charismatic outliers like Obama (47) , JFK (42) and Clinton (46) but most elected Presidents have been older than the vast majority of the population. The oldest person ever elected as President is Donald Trump at 70 years, the second oldest was Ronald Reagan at 69 years.

It's worth noting that Reagans mental faculites were in trouble by his second term, which bodes ill for Trump and, frankly, terrible for Biden who is older than both Reagan and Trump were and seems to be already losing his grip

Made stuff having these lads running for president

Rjd2

Bambi wrote: »

It's worth noting that Reagans mental faculites were in trouble by his second term, which bodes ill for Trump and, frankly, terrible for Biden who is older than both Reagan and Trump were and seems to be already losing his grip

Made stuff having these lads running for president

Biden won't do a second term and will probably delegate like mad when in charge which is understandable.

If its Trump, I'd be doubtful of him lasting the four years, tbh most of the GOP donor class would be content with him been replaced by Pence for medical reasons.

Look at Pelosi and Mitch though, arguably the 4 most important people in politics and all near 80.

extra gravy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

You'd think Joe would not be sleepy after all the early finishes he's been taken recently. He'd better have the best performance of his entire career prepared (a career which has been quite a lengthy one at that). While Trump has been running the country and campaigning throughout states, Bidens been in his basement doing scripted interviews getting lost looking at his notes and getting pissy with his teleprompter. The expectations are so low for Biden, if he can complete sentences, he’ll gain votes.

Yeah Trump has been running the country alright. Into the ground. Selfishly going around the country irresponsibly spreading covid at his embarassing rallies. He's a disgrace. The only reason expectations are low for Biden is thanks to the way Trump and the Republicans have portrayed him and their idiot supporters that lapped it up as fact. So it'll be their own fault when he performs well and gain votes.

duploelabs

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

You'd think Joe would not be sleepy after all the early finishes he's been taken recently. He'd better have the best performance of his entire career prepared (a career which has been quite a lengthy one at that). While Trump has been running the country and campaigning throughout states, Bidens been in his basement doing scripted interviews getting lost looking at his notes and getting pissy with his teleprompter. The expectations are so low for Biden, if he can complete sentences, he’ll gain votes.

Mocking a stammer, your parents must be very proud of you