2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Quin_Dub

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

You'd think Joe would not be sleepy after all the early finishes he's been taken recently. He'd better have the best performance of his entire career prepared (a career which has been quite a lengthy one at that). While Trump has been running the country and campaigning throughout states, Bidens been in his basement doing scripted interviews getting lost looking at his notes and getting pissy with his teleprompter. The expectations are so low for Biden, if he can complete sentences, he’ll gain votes.

Indeed - And that will be ENTIRELY Trumps fault.

He has overplayed the whole "Sleepy Joe" thing to such an extent that as you say , Biden just has to turn up and not drool for the win.

Biden will be much better than that as evidenced by his performances at the Convention and the townhall last week and that will compound the Trump campaign error.

Clearly they have realised this (far far too late) and are now pushing the "If he does well he must be on drugs" angle which is frankly pathetic.

They know that the attacks they have made on Biden are going to backfire and they are desperately trying to give themselves some cover.

Don't get me wrong - Biden will not be spectacular tonight , he'll be competent and well prepared nothing more , but compared to the version of Joe Biden that Trump et al have been claiming exists he will knock it out of the park.

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I've got to honest , I'd view that as a positive.

Anyone who queues up for any length of time to hear a politician speak needs help in my view.

The relationship that some Trump supporters have with him is deeply unhealthy.

Travelling around to attend multiple rallies , queuing for hours/days to see him - That's not normal behaviour for a functioning adult , that's a cult.

People do it for singers, comedians, sports teams. Stand in a queue and pay to be entertained.

I think he's more like a stand up comedian. The left hates to admit it but he can be pretty hilarious when he's ripping the p*ss out of the media and liberal establishment.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

People do it for singers, comedians, sports teams. Stand in a queue and pay to be entertained.

I think he's more like a stand up comedian. The left hates to admit it but he can be pretty hilarious when he's ripping the p*ss out of the media and liberal establishment.

he is as funny as tertiary syphilis. the intellectual level of a ten year old.

ohnonotgmail

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he is as funny as tertiary syphilis. the intellectual level of a ten year old.

I disagree. Even if you look at the full video of his explanation of why he struggled to walk down the ramp recently. His explanation makes sense but the way he tells the story is really funny, clearly unrehearsed and just entertaining.

It's those things that will never make the news. The media will only ever show him at his most crass and basic. There is a little bit more to him than that.

Fiery mutant

Deleted User wrote: »

he's ripping the p*ss out of the media and liberal establishment.

I wouldn’t call it ripping piss. It’s more like a 10 year old school boy throwing insults in the playground. How grown adults can actually find his attitude funny is beyond me. And how he ever got voted into the most powerful position in the world is a frightening indictment of where humanity is at today.

duploelabs

Deleted User wrote: »

I disagree. Even if you look at the full video of his explanation of why he struggled to walk down the ramp recently. His explanation makes sense but the way he tells the story is really funny, clearly unrehearsed and just entertaining.

It's those things that will never make the news. The media will only ever show him at his most crass and basic. There is a little bit more to him than that.

Overlay the story he tells with a video of him on the ramp, where you may think it's 'funny', his version of events are clearly a fabrication.

People still think Jim Davidson is funny, so I'll leave that there

Quin_Dub

duploelabs wrote: »

Overlay the story he tells with a video of him on the ramp, where you may think it's 'funny', his version of events are clearly a fabrication.

People still think Jim Davidson is funny, so I'll leave that there

Given where he's from, I think the better analogy would be Andrew Dice Clay , but WAY less funny (and the Diceman was never funny).

Thin-skinned "Humour" based on cruelty ,misogyny and casual racism.

relax carry on

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People do it for singers, comedians, sports teams. Stand in a queue and pay to be entertained.

I think he's more like a stand up comedian. The left hates to admit it but he can be pretty hilarious when he's ripping the p*ss out of the media and liberal establishment.

Although he doesn't drink, he's the guy in the corner in the pub rambling to himself that we would try to avoid before social media allowed people like Trump to sell their ramblings as the voice of the "silent majority". He's supposed to be a world leader. There's not an ounce of leadership qualities in him.

salmocab

duploelabs wrote: »

Overlay the story he tells with a video of him on the ramp, where you may think it's 'funny', his version of events are clearly a fabrication.

People still think Jim Davidson is funny, so I'll leave that there

I liked the bit where he ran the last 10 feet I think it was he claimed. I’m sure he’s able to be funny occasionally but to think people are queuing for hours for the laughs is in itself laughable but it’s where we’re at now he’s funny.

Igotadose

I miss the old days when you could respect the President when he opened his mouth. They weren't trying to amuse their audiences. They were hopefully telling it like it is, instead of lying.

I don't remember any of them being laughed at during their address at the UN.

Or hugging the flag like a horny koala bear.

DraftDodger

Igotadose wrote: »

I miss the old days when you could respect the President when he opened his mouth. They weren't trying to amuse their audiences. They were hopefully telling it like it is, instead of lying.

I don't remember any of them being laughed at during their address at the UN.

Or hugging the flag like a horny koala bear.

Yeah hugging the flag is terrible alright.

Coping a blow job from an intern whilst you are married in the oval office itself is great though.

I know which i respect more.

ohnonotgmail

DraftDodger wrote: »

Yeah hugging the flag is terrible alright.

Coping a blow job from an intern whilst you are married in the oval office itself is great though.

I know which i respect more.

or shagging a porn star bareback while your wife is nursing a new born baby

Cody montana

What time is the debate Irish time?

Leroy42

DraftDodger wrote: »

Yeah hugging the flag is terrible alright.

Coping a blow job from an intern whilst you are married in the oval office itself is great though.

I know which i respect more.

So you know all about the Stormy Daniels affair. You know he feels he has a right to pretty much any woman he wants.

Yet you believe that he simply turned into a monk during the last four years?

Personally I couldn't give a fig either way, about any of it, consenting adults let them at it. But to try to laud Trump as a moral superior to anyone is really pushing it.

DraftDodger

Leroy42 wrote: »

So you know all about the Stormy Daniels affair. You know he feels he has a right to pretty much any woman he wants.

Yet you believe that he simply turned into a monk during the last four years?

Personally I couldn't give a fig either way, about any of it, consenting adults let them at it. But to try to laud Trump as a moral superior to anyone is really pushing it.

Where did i say he's a monk?

He's an asshole.

Did i argue otherwise.

duploelabs

DraftDodger wrote: »

Where did i say he's a monk?

He's an asshole.

Did i argue otherwise.

You said you prefered the person who, according to witness testimony (which was withdrawn due to intimidation), grabbed a girl who had just gone through puberty, held her down, and raped her whilst screaming he could do anything he wanted.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

DraftDodger

duploelabs wrote: »

You said you prefered the person who, according to witness testimony (which was withdrawn due to intimidation), grabbed a girl who had just gone through puberty, held her down, and raped her whilst screaming he could do anything he wanted.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

So the guy who was never convicted of anything of the sort then? Clinton on the other hand made regular visits to pedo island.

Give me Trump any day over the greaseball .

Professor Moriarty

DraftDodger wrote: »

So the guy who was never convicted of anything of the sort then? Clinton on the other hand made regular visits to pedo island.

Is Clinton up for re-election? Didn't know that.

Leroy42

DraftDodger wrote: »

So the guy who was never convicted of anything of the sort then? Clinton on the other hand made regular visits to pedo island.

Give me Trump any day over the greaseball .

Clinton was convicted of what?

Trump has settled a fraud case over Trump University. Trump admitted to paying a porn star hush money? You don't need a conviction when they confess.

duploelabs

DraftDodger wrote: »

So the guy who was never convicted of anything of the sort then? Clinton on the other hand made regular visits to pedo island.

Give me Trump any day over the greaseball .

Don't recall anyone giving such a legal testimony about any former president

DraftDodger

Leroy42 wrote: »

Clinton was convicted of what?

Trump has settled a fraud case over Trump University. Trump admitted to paying a porn star hush money? You don't need a conviction when they confess.

Where did i say he was convicted of anything. You may need to think before you reply.

ohnonotgmail

Leroy42 wrote: »

Clinton was convicted of what?

Trump has settled a fraud case over Trump University. Trump admitted to paying a porn star hush money? You don't need a conviction when they confess.

it is funny how accusations against trump are irrelevant yet accusations against people he doesn't like are fair game. there is a word for that

Professor Moriarty

DraftDodger wrote: »

So the guy who was never convicted of anything of the sort then? Clinton on the other hand made regular visits to pedo island.

Give me Trump any day over the greaseball .

As an aside. Did you choose your username in honour of The Donald?

Leroy42

So what are peoples feelings on the debate tonight? I think it will much ado about nothing. I think both sides will come out claiming victory, both sides will claim the oterh was destroyed.

Both will have good parts, both will struggle at times, maybe even struggle at bits many thought would be easy enough.

I can't see it making much differnce either way. For those people that que up for hours to hear Trump ramble through an hour of incoherent thoughts, no matter what he says, doesn't say or does will be seen as a negative. Fo those that want Trup out, no matter what, nothing Biden will say, not say or do will make any difference.

Both sides will avoid talking about actual solutions, or about actually changing anything.

And since Biden is ahead in the poils, this suits Biden perfectly fine. Given the extent that Trump has tried to belittle Biden the last few months, anything appraoching normal will be enough for Biden to 'claim' victory. Trump needs to start winning, but hard to see how he will do that tonoght.

duploelabs

DraftDodger wrote: »

Where did i say he was convicted of anything. You may need to think before you reply.

So by that rational, admitting you're guilty doesn't actually make you guilty.

Leroy42

DraftDodger wrote: »

Where did i say he was convicted of anything. You may need to think before you reply.

Why did you bring conviction into the conversation then? What was the purpose of trying to point to the difference between Trump and Clinton based on Trump never having been convicted of anything?

It is not my fault your argument fell to pieces

ohnonotgmail

Leroy42 wrote: »

So what are peoples feelings on the debate tonight? I think it will much ado about nothing. I think both sides will come out claiming victory, both sides will claim the oterh was destroyed.

Both will have good parts, both will struggle at times, maybe even struggle at bits many thought would be easy enough.

I can't see it making much differnce either way. For those people that que up for hours to hear Trump ramble through an hour of incoherent thoughts, no matter what he says, doesn't say or does will be seen as a negative.

Both sides will avoid talking about actual solutions, or about actually changing anything.

And since Biden is ahead in the poils, this suits Biden perfectly fine. Given the extent that Trump has tried to belittle Biden the last few months, anything appraoching normal will be enough for Biden to 'claim' victory. Trump needs to start winning, but hard to see how he will do that tonoght.

i think that pretty much sums it up. it wont be a masterly display of oratory
for sure

kowloonkev

How do they actually take polls? Is it anonymous?

ohnonotgmail

with Trump there is always a tweet. Always.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/190866856624668672

duploelabs

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

with Trump there is always a tweet. Always.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/190866856624668672

There certainly is
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/317227284996186112?s=19