2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ohnonotgmail

RIGOLO wrote: »

So this is a battle of 2 septuagenarians.

Exhibit A
One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him . A Tower his company built.
He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.
A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.
A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration
A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.
A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.
A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.
A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'
A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

Exhibit B
Joe Biden , a septuagenarian.

correction: A tower he named after himself. and he has pissed away most of the NBC money has a minimum of 400M of debt maturing very soon

Foxtrol

RIGOLO wrote: »

NBC : Mr TRump we would like to give you $200million or maybe $400 million to sit behind a desk and say your fired..

Looney left : Trumps a bad business man.

thats the epitome of desperation .

I never said it was a bad deal for Trump, being paid to pretend to be a good business man is the role he was born to play.

I simply pointed out Trump that he also made a huge amount of money for NBC, a company he hates. NBC polished up a turd and made a fortune from it, the turd did pretty well out of it as well.

ollkiller

RIGOLO wrote: »

So this is a battle of 2 septuagenarians.

Exhibit A
One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him . A Tower his company built.
He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.
A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.
A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration
A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.
A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.
A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.
A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'
A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

Exhibit B
Joe Biden , a septuagenarian.

You're the right little fanboy arent ye lol. You might want to add multiple failed businesses, multiple accusations of sexual assault and total ineptitude at getting policies he ran on enacted into legislation whilst at the same time f***king up royally the response to the pandemic. But who really cares about people dying. How do we fix it. Sure another rally. That'll do it.

Overheal

RIGOLO wrote: »

One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him .

What relevance is this to voters?

A Tower his company built.

Not actually. It was built by Costas Kondylis and WSP Cantor Seinuk and financed by 2 German lenders: Deutsche Bank and BHV.

He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.

Why do voters care?

A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.

Squandering your Apprentice money on golf courses is of what benefit to the voters?

A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration

Which has been routinely used as a vehicle for funneling emoluments to the President. Something which would have impeached any other POTUS a dozen times over, but not Trump with this Senate.

A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.

What relevance is this to the election

A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.

Everyone who plans on running for the office plans on winning.

A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.

What relevance is this now? In 2020 he was also in charge of a crisis which saw 30,000,000+ people lost their jobs and over 205,000 lose their lives.

A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'

What relevance is this to the election?

A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

Prove this?

Amazing how this line is trotted out when Trump hasn't even been in office 47 months.

Beasty

coolbeans wrote: »

Thinly veiled throwing toys out of the pram cos Mr. Twump wost the debate cos he thought he was at a rally. Diddums

If you do not want to debate in a civil manner I will remove your posting privileges

Brian?

RIGOLO wrote: »

NBC : Mr TRump we would like to give you $200million or maybe $400 million to sit behind a desk and say your fired..

Looney left : Trumps a bad business man.

thats the epitome of desperation .

He’s not a bad businessman for making that 400m. He’s a bad business man for pumping it into a business that’s losing money hand over fist. That 400m is gone, plus another billion or so he owes to Deutsche bank and a few Russian banks.

He’s a skint conman.

Overheal

Brian? wrote: »

He’s not a bad businessman for making that 400m. He’s a bad business man for pumping it into a business that’s losing money hand over fist. That 400m is gone, plus another billion or so he owes to Deutsche bank and a few Russian banks.

He’s a skint conman.

the infographs are pretty breathtaking on this score:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes-timeline.html

Which just reinforces another salient point in this election: Donald Trump and his debts and his inexorable ties to his businesses and those debts make him a national security risk. Debt is the #1 thing foreign actors will prey on and its among the most common ways security clearance can be denied, is disproportionate amounts of debt. That's why the Emoluments Clause is such a big deal and I am still baffled the scheme he has at the Trump DC Hotel has been left to go on for so long.

Danzy

Brian? wrote: »

He’s not a bad businessman for making that 400m. He’s a bad business man for pumping it into a business that’s losing money hand over fist. That 400m is gone, plus another billion or so he owes to Deutsche bank and a few Russian banks.

He’s a skint conman.

Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

Igotadose

Danzy wrote: »

Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

FFS. But, *the majority of them*? Maybe this is why only Russians (per Eric) invest in him? And as the Times articles detailed, they get 'comps' as a result with WH-related appointments and intimate access to the inside of the USG. As well as goons like Duterte and Erdogan. Everything's for sale as long as it keeps money flowing into the #IMPOTUS' pockets.

When the #IMPOTUS ran his Atlantic City Casinos into the ground, the Banks had to decide just how tight to squeeze him. As was reported, they put him on an allowance so he could keep up impressions.

"Everything Trump touches, dies." Especially true in his business dealings.

Overheal

Danzy wrote: »

Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

He wasn't elected to run the country at a loss!

salmocab

Overheal wrote: »

He wasn't elected to run the country at a loss!

But did it anyway

Timberrrrrrrr

salmocab wrote: »

But did it anyway

BIGLY!!!

Brian?

Danzy wrote: »

Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

I'm sure it can. But running a succession of businesses at a loss including bankrupting a casino? That seems foolish

Overheal

salmocab wrote: »

But did it anyway

That's the one thing he said in the debate on things he done bigger than any other president: Debt. $7 Trillion in less than 4 years. And he's having Mitch grim-reaper covid aid bills so it doesn't get past Obama's 8-year record because he fears the talking point.

duploelabs

I do find it interesting that not a single clapping seal has come on here to defend Trump as per the proud boys comment, 'ah but he was really saying' or 'if you listen to his whole speech'.

Maybe it's because that far right group now appear in a Trump Campaign video

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-trump-video-colorado-rally-1535645

The video on question

https://youtu.be/nrRcmDxMLKc

Overheal

duploelabs wrote: »

I do find it interesting that not a single clapping seal has come on here to defend Trump as per the proud boys comment

TBF that could have something to do with the audience regarding them as clapping seals?

MeMen2_MoRi_

Danzy wrote: »

Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

In other words... Donnie wants to defund the military/police/roads/schools etc just because he's being a "true patriot".

1800_Ladladlad

Roberts having a little whinge because he and the rest of the simpletons are incapable of comprehending the many statements Trump has made condemning white supremacy multiple times, nor can they accept that Trump IS against racism. They are both delusional and desperate. Infantile at the least.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1311726553122795521

MeMen2_MoRi_

Can someone look to explain to me why Donnie never seems tired talking about antifa.. yet he seems "tired" of disconnecting from white supremacists/far right side of the argument..

mcmoustache

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Roberts having a little whinge because he and the rest of the simpletons are incapable of comprehending the many statements Trump has made condemning white supremacy multiple times, nor can they accept that Trump IS against racism. They are both delusional and desperate. Infantile at the least.

Why does he always struggle with it though? I mean, it's really easy to condemn white supremacists and parades with nazi flags chanting "Jews will not replace us" but he always struggles when put on the spot. It's not till he team are able to talk some sense into him that he does those hostage-videos condemning them.

duploelabs

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Roberts having a little whinge because he and the rest of the simpletons are incapable of comprehending the many statements Trump has made condemning white supremacy multiple times, nor can they accept that Trump IS against racism. They are both delusional and desperate. Infantile at the least.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1311726553122795521

As if by clockwork

Foxtrol

mcmoustache wrote: »

Why does he always struggle with it though? I mean, it's really easy to condemn white supremacists and parades with nazi flags chanting "Jews will not replace us" but he always struggles when put on the spot. It's not till he team are able to talk some sense into him that he does those hostage-videos condemning them.

Biden gets asked after every single bit of violence at protests to condemn them and he does, again and again, and again. It is the most softball of questions but Trump can't handle doing it

Overheal

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Roberts having a little whinge because he and the rest of the simpletons are incapable of comprehending the many statements Trump has made condemning white supremacy multiple times, nor can they accept that Trump IS against racism. They are both delusional and desperate. Infantile at the least.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1311726553122795521

Where can I read a statement from the White House condemning White Supremacy?

Overheal

Foxtrol wrote: »

Biden gets asked after every single bit of violence at protests to condemn them and he does, again and again, and again. It is the most softball of questions but Trump can't handle doing it

Importantly, Biden doesn't seem to whinge constantly about being asked constantly, as he has no compunction about condemning White Supremacy.

Justin Credible Darts

in the end does it matter who wins, america will still treat people the way it does,
Bomb the fu(k out of the brown countries
rape others for their resources
continue to fail their own people

biden wont solve things, he will be the latest war monger to carry on the same thing.

Its the system that is fu(cked, biden and trump are like 2 men fighting for deck chairs on the titanic

Foxtrol

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

in the end does it matter who wins, america will still treat people the way it does,
Bomb the fu(k out of the brown countries
rape others for their resources
continue to fail their own people

biden wont solve things, he will be the latest war monger to carry on the same thing.

Its the system that is fu(cked, biden and trump are like 2 men fighting for deck chairs on the titanic

No matter how much you have issue with US politics and society, pushing the false equivalence narrative in this situation is so selfish.

Overheal

they're just observations that are far out of scope in this election.

Cody montana

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

in the end does it matter who wins, america will still treat people the way it does,
Bomb the fu(k out of the brown countries
rape others for their resources
continue to fail their own people

biden wont solve things, he will be the latest war monger to carry on the same thing.

Its the system that is fu(cked, biden and trump are like 2 men fighting for deck chairs on the titanic

Why do you keep posting the same thing over and over and over?

Justin Credible Darts

observations ?

wow

gmisk

duploelabs wrote: »

As if by clockwork

It's about midnight in Russia, must be on overtime lol