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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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    #1142
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,567 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Jay Fleitman, MD. Practising in patient care for over 40 years.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-Jay-Fleitman-35536697

    Biden is in big trouble.

    Democrats need to start putting together a plan B if Joe doesn't make the debates or he breaks down live during the debate.

    ah there will be awful sh1te from both sides released prior to this election, id ignore it all, it ll be the sh1test election ever, with both sides covering each other in sh1t, i still put biden with the win, just about, and the other fella throwing the ultimate hissy fit, and maybe refusing to leave office, it ll be disturbing to watch


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    #1143
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Jay Fleitman, MD. Practising in patient care for over 40 years.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-Jay-Fleitman-35536697

    Biden is in big trouble.

    Democrats need to start putting together a plan B if Joe doesn't make the debates or he breaks down live during the debate.

    somebody needs to look at where she got her medical licence. an odd story about a nurse with no context. A joke he made. and a clip that ends abruptly but even i can figure out he meant 2010 not 2020. these do not a dementia diagnosis make.


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    #1144
    Overheal
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    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Jay Fleitman, MD. Practising in patient care for over 40 years.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-Jay-Fleitman-35536697

    Biden is in big trouble.

    Democrats need to start putting together a plan B if Joe doesn't make the debates or he breaks down live during the debate.

    I’m the pope because I say so as well.

    Either way he’s not a psychiatrist. And even if he pretended to be he’d be an awful one: the Goldwater Rule makes the well defined case that it is clearly unethical for any psychiatrist to do anything of this sort, to offer diagnoses when they haven’t engaged with the patient in question for any sort of meaningful examination.

    What was it Abe Lincoln once said: “don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”


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    #1145
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Jay Fleitman, MD. Practising in patient care for over 40 years.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-Jay-Fleitman-35536697

    Biden is in big trouble.

    Democrats need to start putting together a plan B if Joe doesn't make the debates or he breaks down live during the debate.

    Is that an opinion piece by a Republican and former Congressional candidate or is it a diagnosis by a doctor who specialises in that area?


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    #1146
    salmocab
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    Jesus Christ if this barrel gets scraped anymore the bottom will be worn out. A Republican doing an opinion piece is offered as evidence now.


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    #1147
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,567 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    salmocab wrote: »
    Jesus Christ if this barrel gets scraped anymore the bottom will be worn out. A Republican doing an opinion piece is offered as evidence now.

    the barrel is long gone, we re quickly heading to the core


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    #1148
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,501 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    the barrel is long gone, we re quickly heading to the core

    What a shyte movie that was.


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    #1149
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    So Biden is a perverted senile old who fool who will destroy the USA and jobs.
    While banning/removing windows, the suburbs, god, the police, jails, cars, private schools, the military, etc.
    Got it.

    Trumps supporters are trying to make him unelectable like Hillary.
    Only problem, is trump has shown how incompetent and disgusting he is.


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    #1150
    sydthebeat
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    Nah Biden is not in trouble.

    At this stage an inanimate carbon rod is a better choice than drumpf the oranger.

    The liar in chief could not being doing the Biden camp any more to get more elected


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    #1151
    The Unbearables
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    Democrats should be rightfully fearful of the ghosts of polling past. Clinton lead the President in almost every single poll by a distance leading to the 2016 election and still got beat.

    Can Joe hang on, can the democrats hide him away for much longer before people start to ask questions?

    Very exciting debates ahead.


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    #1152
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,592 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Democrats should be rightfully fearful of the ghosts of polling past. Clinton lead the President in almost every single poll by a distance leading to the 2016 election and still got beat.

    Can Joe hang on, can the democrats hide him away for much longer before people start to ask questions?

    Very exciting debates ahead.

    They won't be exciting but they will be interesting especially if there is no live audience for Trump to play up to. Guaranteed he will not be a happy man when/if he finds out there is no audience, I even think he will threaten to cancel unless there is an audience.


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    #1153
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,467 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Democrats should be rightfully fearful of the ghosts of polling past. Clinton lead the President in almost every single poll by a distance leading to the 2016 election and still got beat.

    Can Joe hang on, can the democrats hide him away for much longer before people start to ask questions?

    Very exciting debates ahead.

    she didnt. the results were within the margin of error of the polls. bidens lead is much bigger than the margin of error.


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    #1154
    pjohnson
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    Fleitman seems marginally more reputable than Immanuel/Gold and co.. Republican "doctors" are improving. A few decades and maybe they reach competency.


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    #1155
    Quin_Dub
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    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Jay Fleitman, MD. Practising in patient care for over 40 years.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-Jay-Fleitman-35536697

    Biden is in big trouble.

    Democrats need to start putting together a plan B if Joe doesn't make the debates or he breaks down live during the debate.

    This a a quote from that opinion piece
    Maybe I am all wrong, and we will see a sharp Joe Biden in the debates. The Democratic leaning press and media often raise questions of Trump’s competency to be president. He is characterized as being narcissistic, blustery, erratic, and unintelligent or uninterested. It is impossible to be outside the White House and Trump’s personal orbit to know what if any of this is true.

    So - Looking at Biden from the outside , he's definitely not well and is a huge risk.

    But - Looking at Trump from the outside - Impossible to tell if there's anything to be concerned about..

    Yeah - That's shows a nuanced and balanced take of the potential issues at hand alright.


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    #1156
    weisses
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    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Democrats should be rightfully fearful of the ghosts of polling past. Clinton lead the President in almost every single poll by a distance leading to the 2016 election and still got beat.

    Can Joe hang on, can the democrats hide him away for much longer before people start to ask questions?

    Very exciting debates ahead.

    Trump need to do Better then in one of his last pressers where he forgot corona was a virus


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    #1157
    Cody montana
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    Kanye West’s lawyer demands Democrats prove Mickey Mouse didn’t really sign his ballot petition in Wisconsin.

    Lol


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    #1158
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    Trump needs to focus on stuff like this in Seattle where police are being laid off and their department is being defunded, their police chief just resigned. 100 out of 1400 police are being laid off and their pay is being reduced with a view to decreasing the funding by 50% next year. The vast majority of the public in the US do not agree with defunding police departments.



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    #1159
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,664 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Democrats should be rightfully fearful of the ghosts of polling past. Clinton lead the President in almost every single poll by a distance leading to the 2016 election and still got beat.

    Can Joe hang on, can the democrats hide him away for much longer before people start to ask questions?

    Very exciting debates ahead.

    Very different scenarios.

    Biden is not disliked to the level that HC was. Biden does not have to defend himself for actions of his partner like HC did.

    Trump is the POTUS, so this line about 'what harm can it do' is no longer valid.

    Trump is no longer an outsider, but has had 4 years to drain the swamp and is now part of it.

    Trump has a catalogue of failures to defend. He has managed <300 miles of wall in 4 years, and those were the easy bits. His build the wall line will be met with ridicule.

    He cannot run on repeal and replace. He had the shot and had nothing, not even an idea never mind a policy.

    COVID19 is killing 1000+ a day and 162K+. This will likely be 200K+ come election time. By a large margin the US public think Trump did a lousy job.

    He has no policy platform despite being given 2 or 3 opportunities to lay it out. His best idea so far is that he is now used to sleeping in Washington!

    Trump has done nothing to gain extra voters, but has done plenty to lose voters.

    The DNC (at least one would think) will not be as complacent as in 2016 and actually do some electioneering in the places that matter.

    Biden is not a woman. Do not underestimate how big a deal that actually was in 2016. Although with a female VP pick that may have some impact, but far less than the POTUS,


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    #1160
    Carfacemandog
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    stinkypinky wrote: »
    The vast majority of the public in the US do not agree with defunding police departments.

    Yes and no...
    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    94% of Americans want police reform vs 6% who say things are OK as-is.

    74% want an end to 'stop and frisk' techniques. 50% want an end to police officer involvement in non-violent crimes. 56% want to see police unions eliminated. 96% want to see changes made to hold officer more accountable and more likely to face punishment for misconduct. Only 15% want to see police departments abolished, though 47% want to see defunding with the money being used for other ways of reducing crime, e.g. social programs.


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    #1161
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    Yes and no...

    Suppose it depends on how things are worded - at it's core removing money from police departments is supported only by a minority.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/64-americans-oppose-defund-police-movement-key-goals/story?id=71202300

    64% of Americans oppose 'defund the police' movement, key goals

    "Strong majorities of Americans oppose the movement to "defund the police" and some of its most significant goals, specifically reshuffling funding away from law enforcement to support mental health, housing and education programs, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday finds.

    Nearly two-thirds of Americans oppose calls for defunding police departments, compared to 34% who back the movement, and 60% specifically oppose reducing the budget for police to reallocate it to other public health and social programs, while 39% support that move."


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    #1162
    Eric Cartman
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    she didnt. the results were within the margin of error of the polls. bidens lead is much bigger than the margin of error.

    The media made a big error last time in allowing trump to be trump, theres now a massive over correction , more manipulation of numbers and samples etc... they're determined not to be shown up again.


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    #1163
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    Easy to forget how ridiculous some of the polls were I suppose.

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/795663593689808896


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    #1164
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The media made a big error last time in allowing trump to be trump, theres now a massive over correction , more manipulation of numbers and samples etc... they're determined not to be shown up again.
    What does this mean?


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    #1165
    dwayneshintzy
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    stinkypinky wrote: »
    Easy to forget how ridiculous some of the polls were I suppose.

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/795663593689808896
    Where's the poll there?


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    #1166
    Leroy42
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    stinkypinky wrote: »
    Easy to forget how ridiculous some of the polls were I suppose.

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/795663593689808896

    Eh, you do know that isn't a poll, don't you?

    Are you the type of person that thinks only favourites can ever win?


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    #1167
    mcsean2163
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    I really really really hope Biden doesn't select Kamala Harris as VP. What about Bass, she's not connected to the Clinton's and looks excellent.


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    #1168
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    stinkypinky wrote: »
    Easy to forget how ridiculous some of the polls were I suppose.

    https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/795663593689808896

    That's not a poll.


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    #1169
    mcmoustache
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    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    I really really really hope Biden doesn't select Kamala Harris as VP. What about Bass, she's not connected to the Clinton's and looks excellent.

    Is scientology held in high regard over there?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510117-vp-contender-karen-bass-explains-her-2010-remarks-praising-scientology


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    #1170
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    I really really really hope Biden doesn't select Kamala Harris as VP. What about Bass, she's not connected to the Clinton's and looks excellent.
    How's Kamala Harris connected to the Clintons? Susan Rice yes, but not sure the connection with Harris.


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    #1171
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,664 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    I really really really hope Biden doesn't select Kamala Harris as VP. What about Bass, she's not connected to the Clinton's and looks excellent.

    Wasn't Trump at Chelsea Clintons wedding and Ivanka and Chelsea were friends?

    Trump previously stated that HC would be a great president.

    Clinton was, maybe still is, a member of Trumps golf club.

    If being connected to the Clintons is a disqualification then Trump is in trouble


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