2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ELM327

Leroy42 wrote: »

Ok, on the basis of your argument you can safely all admit that Trump is racist since he picked a white man to be VP candidate in 2016.

Am I doing this right?

Oh for god's sake.

Are you always this ridiculous or are you putting on a special show for me?

Quantum Erasure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ezPvzKe5M

Faugheen wrote: »

For the cry-babies wondering why people found it hard to feel sorry for Trump because of the death of his brother, here’s why:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1295331555020341249?s=21

He literally makes a tribute to his brother all about himself.

ancapailldorcha

ELM327 wrote: »

Oh for god's sake.

Are you always this ridiculous or are you putting on a special show for me?

It's your reasoning. Apparently a woman of colour has nothing more to offer than her ethnicity and gender and now that this is turned on Trump we get this silly overreaction.

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Faugheen wrote: »

For the cry-babies wondering why people found it hard to feel sorry for Trump because of the death of his brother, here’s why:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1295331555020341249?s=21

He literally makes a tribute to his brother all about himself.

He'll make the eulogy about himself as well, that's if he takes time out from playing golf to actually attend the funeral.

WrenBoy

Interesting to see the level of the political divide, Al Baghdadi got better treatment than Robert Trump just because of who his brother is. Not a great look for the WaPo again.

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew/status/1294832712952557569

ohnonotgmail

WrenBoy wrote: »

Interesting to see the level of the political divide, Al Baghdadi got better treatment than Robert Trump just because of who his brother is. Not a great look for the WaPo again.

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew/status/1294832712952557569

that is nicer than the eulogy that Donald will give him. I will be surprised if trump even mentions his brother in his eulogy. it will be all about Donald.

Overheal

ELM327 wrote: »

It's an open "secret"

So you have no proof.

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WrenBoy wrote: »

Interesting to see the level of the political divide, Al Baghdadi got better treatment than Robert Trump just because of who his brother is. Not a great look for the WaPo again.

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew/status/1294832712952557569

Robert Trump is only getting an obituary there precisely because of who his brother is. What do you expect them to say? Most people don't know who he is.

dwayneshintzy

Overheal wrote: »

So you have no proof.

They'll make all the inferences they like about Trump's opponents. God.forbid you make any about Trump himself, though.

Leroy42

ELM327 wrote: »

Oh for god's sake.

Are you always this ridiculous or are you putting on a special show for me?

I don't understand what you see as the issue with my question.

You want to call Biden racist for choosing a woman who is also a minority background. You are of the view that that was Biden's main reason behind her selection.

All I did was ask would that also be applied to Trump selection of Pence. Was he chosen simply because he was a white Christian man?

If you opt of it for Biden how can you not apply the same 'logic' to Trump?

dwayneshintzy

Hey look, it was an "open secret" that Trump would only pick a white man in 2016; https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-pick-woman-minority-vp-running-mate/story?id=39395187

WrenBoy

extra gravy wrote: »

Robert Trump is only getting an obituary there precisely because of who his brother is. What do you expect them to say? Most people don't know who he is.

To be honest I wouldn't have expected a story on him, didnt even know he existed to be honest, I get its news worthy because of his brother but even just a "Robert Trump: President's younger brother dies in hospital" is better, which is what the BBC went with. Just a bit ghoulish in my opinion to have a dig at Trump via his brothers death.

Muahahaha

So the Democratic National Convention begins tonight and some big hitters are giving speeches. Tonights schedule has Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders and Andrew Cuomo. Its Cuomos speech that will be interesting given his experience of NY being ravaged by the virus and then him getting it under control. Id expect Cuomo to tackle Trump head on about the virus and given he is a very good orator it will make for interesting viewing.

Another one to watch is Republican John Kaisch who the Biden campaign asked to give a speech at the DNC. Hes part of the Republican Party who want to see Trump unseated and are willing to help Biden to do so.

Tuesday nights speakers are Bill Clinton, Jill Biden, Chuck Schumer, John Kerry and AOC.

Wednesday night is Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and Gabrielle Giffords with Kamala Harris giving the keynote address. Then Thursday night the one to watch will be Pete Buttgieg with the keynote speech by Joe Biden himself.

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WrenBoy wrote: »

To be honest I wouldn't have expected a story on him, didnt even know he existed to be honest, I get its news worthy because of his brother but even just a "Robert Trump: President's younger brother dies in hospital" is better, which is what the BBC went with. Just a bit ghoulish in my opinion to have a dig at Trump via his brothers death.

I agree they could left the "filed lawsuit" part out, it's a bit tabloidy.

Quin_Dub

WrenBoy wrote: »

To be honest I wouldn't have expected a story on him, didnt even know he existed to be honest, I get its news worthy because of his brother but even just a "Robert Trump: President's younger brother dies in hospital" is better, which is what the BBC went with. Just a bit ghoulish in my opinion to have a dig at Trump via his brothers death.

It's not really either ghoulish or even a dig at DJT directly.

The only thing that I had ever heard about Trumps brother was when he went to court recently about the Mary Trump book. Like you , I wasn't really aware that there was another Brother beyond Fred.

So - The Washington Post making reference to the only things people know about the guy doesn't seem all that far out.

They could have gone with "Trump Golfs while his brother dies" or "Trump goes out enjoying himself for death of second brother".

Both absolutely true , but arguably insensitive statements.

hotmail.com

The death of a relative of a leader isn't news.

The established media will write absolutely anything now about Trump for hits.

Overheal

Muahahaha wrote: »

So the Democratic National Convention begins tonight and some big hitters are giving speeches. Tonights schedule has Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders and Andrew Cuomo. Its Cuomos speech that will be interesting given his experience of NY being ravaged by the virus and then him getting it under control. Id expect Cuomo to tackle Trump head on about the virus and given he is a very good orator it will make for interesting viewing.

Another one to watch is Republican John Kaisch who the Biden campaign asked to give a speech at the DNC. Hes part of the Republican Party who want to see Trump unseated and are willing to help Biden to do so.

Tuesday nights speakers are Bill Clinton, Jill Biden, Chuck Schumer, John Kerry and AOC.

Wednesday night is Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and Gabrielle Giffords with Kamala Harris giving the keynote address. Then Thursday night the one to watch will be Pete Buttgieg with the keynote speech by Joe Biden himself.

Full schedule here

https://www.demconvention.com/schedule-and-speakers/

Times are EDT (10:30 AM at time of post, adjust to your local)

Quin_Dub

Muahahaha wrote: »

So the Democratic National Convention begins tonight and some big hitters are giving speeches. Tonights schedule has Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders and Andrew Cuomo. Its Cuomos speech that will be interesting given his experience of NY being ravaged by the virus and then him getting it under control. Id expect Cuomo to tackle Trump head on about the virus and given he is a very good orator it will make for interesting viewing.

Another one to watch is Republican John Kaisch who the Biden campaign asked to give a speech at the DNC. Hes part of the Republican Party who want to see Trump unseated and are willing to help Biden to do so.

Tuesday nights speakers are Bill Clinton, Jill Biden, Chuck Schumer, John Kerry and AOC.

Wednesday night is Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and Gabrielle Giffords with Kamala Harris giving the keynote address. Then Thursday night the one to watch will be Pete Buttgieg with the keynote speech by Joe Biden himself.

And in contrast, at the GOP convention , Trump will be the keynote speaker EVERY night

Typically - The Candidate (whether an incumbent or not) gives one big speech on the last night after the rest of the party Glitterati have laid out the policy agenda and built the candidate up for the finale.

If further evidence was needed of his complete and utter takeover and subjugation of the GOP , this is surely it.

It's probably a gift to the Dems and/or people like the Lincoln project - 4 Night of "big speeches" from Trump will definitely provide some "meme-able" moments.

There's no chance he stays on the Teleprompter for 4 straight nights.

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Quin_Dub wrote: »

And in contrast, at the GOP convention , Trump will be the keynote speaker EVERY night

Typically - The Candidate (whether an incumbent or not) gives one big speech on the last night after the rest of the party Glitterati have laid out the policy agenda and built the candidate up for the finale.

If further evidence was needed of his complete and utter takeover and subjugation of the GOP , this is surely it.

It's probably a gift to the Dems and/or people like the Lincoln project - 4 Night of "big speeches" from Trump will definitely provide some "meme-able" moments.

There's no chance he stays on the Teleprompter for 4 straight nights.

Oh lord, this could be gold!

Carfacemandog

hotmail.com wrote: »

The death of a relative of a leader isn't news.

The established media will write absolutely anything now about Trump for hits.

That's not true.

Biden's wife and daughter dying were huge stories at the time, and those were almost 50 years ago. As is also typically the case when the latest Kennedy goes skiing off the side of an airplane while wrapped in fireworks and dynamite, or whatnot. A Kennedy dying earlier this year was a big story, for just the latest of countless examples.

Quin_Dub

hotmail.com wrote: »

The death of a relative of a leader isn't news.

The established media will write absolutely anything now about Trump for hits.

Why do you post about Politics?

Your response to pretty much everything is "It doesn't matter" or "Why does anyone care about that"

You're entire posting history seems to be an effort to make sure that everyone knows how little you care about things and how unimportant it all is.

Rjd2

Muahahaha wrote: »

So the Democratic National Convention begins tonight and some big hitters are giving speeches. Tonights schedule has Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders and Andrew Cuomo. Its Cuomos speech that will be interesting given his experience of NY being ravaged by the virus and then him getting it under control. Id expect Cuomo to tackle Trump head on about the virus and given he is a very good orator it will make for interesting viewing.


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Be interesting if he discusses the stellar way he handled the nursing homes and how he got it under control after a mere 35 000 people died.

Kasich giving a speech at a supposedly left wing party's convention is a scandal while AOC only getting 1 minute.

salmocab

WrenBoy wrote: »

To be honest I wouldn't have expected a story on him, didnt even know he existed to be honest, I get its news worthy because of his brother but even just a "Robert Trump: President's younger brother dies in hospital" is better, which is what the BBC went with. Just a bit ghoulish in my opinion to have a dig at Trump via his brothers death.

I think the brother also sued the niece so I would take the headline to mean that Robert sued the niece.

ohnonotgmail

Rjd2 wrote: »

Be interesting if he discusses the stellar way he handled the nursing homes and how he got it under control after a mere 35 000 people died.

Kasich giving a speech at a supposedly left wing party's convention is a scandal while AOC only getting 1 minute.

the democrats are not a left wing party.

Rjd2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the democrats are not a left wing party.

Sadly true.

A centre right party probably.


Plenty if they were in the UK would rather be in the tories than Labour.


I think in the next ten years they will really move to the left with demo changes and the likes of the squad moving up .

Also Bill Clinton really should not be speaking either , to much scandal their.

And before someone reminds me yes I know about the numerous rape allegations aimed at Trump which should have disqualified him, doesn't make Bill speaking any better.

Quin_Dub

Rjd2 wrote: »

Be interesting if he discusses the stellar way he handled the nursing homes and how he got it under control after a mere 35 000 people died.

Kasich giving a speech at a supposedly left wing party's convention is a scandal while AOC only getting 1 minute.

Just on that - She is not giving a speech and was never supposed to be.

She, along with several others is "nominating" one of the candidates (Sanders I think) - It's part of the charade of the nomination process. She doesn't really have a speech to give.

Each of the original candidates gets a ceremonial "Nomination" at the convention and then they go through all the primary results and Biden gets announced as the winner and confirmed as the official Democrat Candidate.

In 60 seconds , she will basically get to say "Thank you all , It is my great pleasure to nominate Senator Bernie Sanders for the position of Presidential Candidate for the Democrat Party in 2020" and not much else.

Same as whoever is "nominating" Buttigieg or Klobuchar etc.

Danzy

Rjd2 wrote: »

Be interesting if he discusses the stellar way he handled the nursing homes and how he got it under control after a mere 35 000 people died.

Kasich giving a speech at a supposedly left wing party's convention is a scandal while AOC only getting 1 minute.

AOC has some strange views, may appeal to many activists but the wider electorate aren't impressed with her.

She is also from a wing that was sidelined with Biden and told to jump with VP pick of Harris.

Rjd2

Danzy wrote: »

AOC has some strange views, may appeal to many activists but the wider electorate aren't impressed with her.

She is also from a wing that was sidelined with Biden and told to jump with VP pick of Harris.

She's a star though so she should get plenty of time to speak especially if they can find room for John Kasich. Someone like AOC would be considered centre left in Europe tbf.

What's the RNC version of AOC? Crenshaw? Assume the RNC cfor all their flaws won't minimise him at the RNC convention.

Manic Moran

Overheal wrote: »

Proof?

Well, back in July he said his list was seven women. That may be acceptable for a political position (It can perhaps be argued that the interests of job performance as a figurehead it is required, but it's a stretch), but he has also promised as far back as March to nominate a black female for the next SCOTUS position. That would be enough for a racial discrimination claim against any private employer unless it can be shown that nobody who wasn't a black female can do the job.

Muahahaha

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And in contrast, at the GOP convention , Trump will be the keynote speaker EVERY night

Typically - The Candidate (whether an incumbent or not) gives one big speech on the last night after the rest of the party Glitterati have laid out the policy agenda and built the candidate up for the finale.

If further evidence was needed of his complete and utter takeover and subjugation of the GOP , this is surely it.

It's probably a gift to the Dems and/or people like the Lincoln project - 4 Night of "big speeches" from Trump will definitely provide some "meme-able" moments.

There's no chance he stays on the Teleprompter for 4 straight nights.

jesus four nights of Trump going off script could make for a car crash in terms of the election.

Just from your link

The overall theme of the week will be “Honoring the Great American Story.” Monday’s tag line will be “Land of Promise,” Tuesday will be “Land of Opportunity,” Wednesday will showcase “Land of Heroes,” and the final day, Aug. 27, will be built around a “Land of Greatness” theme.

I cant wait for Trumps "Land of Greatness" speech where the great one himself tells us how great he is while the death toll clicks past 180,000 dead and an economy in the tank.

They are also doing speeches on federal property which seems to be in contravention of the Hatch Act which disbars federal employees from being involved in federal activities.