2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Tell me how

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Trump isn't doing any of those things, this is the definition of alarmism.

Have you turned on the TV in 4 years? Or read a newspaper?

drunkmonkey

Worth a watch, explains the Maxwell comment anyways..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fdIP_KyL0

Danzy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

This is the man they say will "destroy" Biden in the debates.

No, while Trump is good in debates, he is forceful, charismatic and good tv wise, in some ways he is not a star University debater but he is a good political debater.

It will be Joe Biden who makes or breaks Joe Biden.
If he can hold it together for that time, he'll be ok.

Timberrrrrrrr

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Worth a watch, explains the Maxwell comment anyways..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fdIP_KyL0

No it doesn't, it makes excuses for them, guy basically says Trump half listens and just waffles out a stock response.

Timberrrrrrrr

Danzy wrote: »

No, while Trump is good in debates, he is forceful, charismatic and good tv wise, in some ways he is not a star University debater but he is a good political debater.

It will be Joe Biden who makes or breaks Joe Biden.
If he can hold it together for that time, he'll be ok.

No he isn't, he is a mouth and plays to an audience, he will be lost this time around as there more than likely won't be an audience for him to play to. If he waffles like that when he's supposed to be on script then watching him flounder on the debates is going to be great fun.

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drunkmonkey wrote: »

Worth a watch, explains the Maxwell comment anyways..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fdIP_KyL0

You watched that video and think the bit about his comments on Maxwell is the interesting part?

Not about the Trump administration supporting conspiracy theories?

The President of the United States adopting this strategy and that its taken as ok.
The interesting thing in that video is the comment that Trump is not strategically doing anything but just bouncing on topics as he thinks they help him and that that is perfect for this era.

drunkmonkey

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No it doesn't, it makes excuses for them, guy basically says Trump half listens and just waffles out a stock response.

Easy it's humour, maybe you need one of these in your life..

Timberrrrrrrr

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Easy it's humour, maybe you need one of these in your life..

You posted it, no humour in your post. Now you see that people have actually watched 8t and called you out for the rubbish that it is you are attempting to backpedal.

drunkmonkey

Tell me how wrote: »

You watched that video and think the bit about his comments on Maxwell is the interesting part?

Not about the Trump administration supporting conspiracy theories?

The President of the United States adopting this strategy and that its taken as ok.
The interesting thing in that video is the comment that Trump is not strategically doing anything but just bouncing on topics as he thinks they help him and that that is perfect for this era.

I don't think it's all conspiracy, definitely as he says some nuggets of truth in some of those Q drops, mainly crazy though... Marjorie Greens seems to have ruffled a few feathers, Trump getting lambasted for not denouncing Q.

drunkmonkey

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You posted it, no humour in your post. Now you see that people have actually watched 8t and called you out for the rubbish that it is you are attempting to backpedal.

The podcast was entertaining and funny, not me.. not trying to backpedal on anything, chill out you don't need to attack everything.

Tell me how

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I don't think it's all conspiracy, definitely as he says some nuggets of truth in some of those Q drops, mainly crazy though... Marjorie Greens seems to have ruffled a few feathers, Trump getting lambasted for not denouncing Q.

If so, Is this is how the holder of the most powerful office on the planet should tackle this?

Danzy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No he isn't, he is a mouth and plays to an audience, he will be lost this time around as there more than likely won't be an audience for him to play to. If he waffles like that when he's supposed to be on script then watching him flounder on the debates is going to be great fun.

He has spoke publicly for years now, he is very comfortable on TV. An audience won't make a difference either way. Waffle is part of debates. The concern for the Dems is that Joe will go off on a tangent so obscure that his health issues will become obvious.

drunkmonkey

Tell me how wrote: »

If so, Is this is how the holder of the most powerful office on the planet should tackle this?

Tackle what, the people who think he's going to lead them to the promise land, best keep them on side. Worse things to sort out first. He's a fan, plays to them.

namloc1980

Danzy wrote: »

He has spoke publicly for years now, he is very comfortable on TV. An audience won't make a difference either way. Waffle is part of debates. The concern for the Dems is that Joe will go off on a tangent so obscure that his health issues will become obvious.

Trump is guaranteed to go off an a tangent (just today he claimed God was testing him or some bollocks like that) so that'll be two them.

Faugheen

Absolute f*cking losers here always going back to Joe Biden’s supposed ‘health issues’ because they have nothing else to actually throw at him.

namloc1980

Faugheen wrote: »

Absolute f*cking losers here always going back to Joe Biden’s supposed ‘health issues’ because they have nothing else to actually throw at him.

Trump supporters have nothing else to point to: Trump has no meaningful accomplishments in office, he has disastrously handled Covid-19 and has zero policies or objectives for a second term. Lying about Joe Biden is all they got.

Danzy

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trump is guaranteed to go off an a tangent (just today he claimed God was testing him or some bollocks like that) so that'll be two them.

He will but Joe often now doesn't even reach a tangential point.

namloc1980

Danzy wrote: »

He will but Joe often now doesn't even reach a tangential point.

Examples please that show that he "often now doesn't even reach a tangential point". By the way what does that even mean?

Noeleff

Trump is going to whoop creepy Joe
Embarrassed for all the moderators and administration here who are all anti trump.

You were wrong on 2016 and wrong again.

namloc1980

Trump claimed today that New Zealand is experiencing a surge of cases and he doesn't want to see that happening in the US. New Zealand had 9 new cases today and last recorded a Covid-19 death in May. Meanwhile the US has 40k new cases and 600 deaths today! Absolutely deluded and clearly unstable but according to Trump sycophants it's Biden who has "health problems".

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Danzy

namloc1980 wrote: »

Examples please that show that he "often now doesn't even reach a tangential point". By the way what does that even mean?

Is it really that hard to understand?

namloc1980

Danzy wrote: »

Is it really that hard to understand?

No examples then and unable to explain your point further. Fair enough.

briany

Noeleff wrote: »

Trump is going to whoop creepy Joe
Embarrassed for all the moderators and administration here who are all anti trump.

You were wrong on 2016 and wrong again.

I cannot rule out Trump winning, but I would seriously have to question the whole political culture in the USA if he did. How does it even look?

"OK, he totally failed to lead during the coronavirus pandemic and the country's staring down the barrel of a recession, the country is becoming a laughing stock internationally, the country's horribly divided and even members of his own party and cabinet have turned on him. But he triggers the libs, soooo... "

joseywhales

I mean Biden could be a corpse and he would still be the preferable option, not that there is any evidence of any health problems. I remember Hillary rumors of ill health last time too, it is an age old ploy, she is not dead yet. Jimmy Carter is still going even!

briany

Trump supporters don't really have any positive arguments in favour of their man. Their case for why Donald Trump should be reelected is based on tenuous and obtuse remarks about his opponent, with the gas thing being it's always stuff that can be said of Trump himself.

Has Trump and his team even bothered to draft a list of 2nd term goals or have they just said f*ck it, and are hoping that somehow the base will carry him through?

Tell me how

Noeleff wrote: »

Trump is going to whoop creepy Joe
Embarrassed for all the moderators and administration here who are all anti trump.

You were wrong on 2016 and wrong again.

What are your thoughts on how he said he was going to hire all the best people and now person after person who worked for him is coming out saying not to vote for him this time round?

Was he wrong to hire them, or are they wrong now?

Manic Moran

briany wrote: »

I cannot rule out Trump winning, but I would seriously have to question the whole political culture in the USA if he did. How does it even look?

Pretty awful, really, if the only other major party actively turns off so many people that even with someone like Trump in the White House, they couldn't win the election.

However, this isn't new either. We've been here for a while. Trump isn't sitting in the oval office with a Republican senate because they are all so appealing. They're there because the opposition was considered by the majority of voters in a majority of States to be the worse option. There is no longer a party which has a hope of claiming to represent the United States. Well, at least no major party, maybe there's an American branch of the Monster Raving Loony Party (with green teeth)

Rjd2

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

It's not like The Donald is a paragon of virtue. Anyway, that's grand. Politics is about getting elected. As long as The Donald loses, who cares what their motives are?

Because they are bad people who have supported some horrific policies and paved the way for Trump. Biden is clearly better than Trump, but the squad and the online progressives are going to have to ensure Biden does not bow to Bush/Cheney Republicans and Wall St Dems after Novemeber.

Its going to be a huge battle as the consistent drooling from people who supposedly are left wing over these type of Republicans doesn't bode well .


https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1294611086222729217

Carfacemandog

Manic Moran wrote: »

Pretty awful, really, if the only other major party actively turns off so many people that even with someone like Trump in the White House, they couldn't win the election.

Trump could be running against a pieced together combination of all of the best parts of JFK, FDR, Lincoln and Jefferson in a modern day package, and that same 38-40% would be 100% behind him, such is the nature of cults.

Democracies deserve the leaders they get, and Trump is about the most damning indictment of the US voting public one could possibly imagine. And all because the letter R sits in brackets beside his name, and he feeds into the bigotry of others.

There's no "both sidesing" the entirely unmatched sh*t show we have seen from Trump in the last 3.5 years, and especially over 2020 - hence why the former DHS chief of staff under him Miles Taylor, as well as former Republican Governor of Ohio John Kasich have each come out to endorse Biden today.

But hey... (R).

dwayneshintzy

Some pretty strong stuff on what Trump was like from a former DHS staffer