2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

The Unbearables

The Unbearables wrote: »

Shocking racism from the President

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28-wn3rLjCA

Why are you linking us to the YouTube of a convicted felon who was pardoned by the president? Law and order when it suits?

Carfacemandog

ELM327 wrote: »

Nothing has changed, I am pro choice.
Abortion is not an easy choice but as a man my role is to shut up and let women and doctors decide the best healthcare for women.


You don't have to be a pro life hick to be a trump supporter.
most states did not vote for Hilary. As you well know.

Which makes it all the more bizarre that you were supportive of the plagiarized post championing Trump making it harder for women to get abortions in the US among other things, thanking the post and blanket claiming "this is the stuff the left would ignore".

jamule

mcmoustache wrote: »

I think Jamule is being sarcastic here.

King Don killed sarcasm. It was being used by commie leftist snowflake libtards too often. He may have conquered irony too.

dwayneshintzy

The Unbearables wrote: »

Shocking racism from the President

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28-wn3rLjCA

Do you intend on actually engaging with other posters in here? Or just posting and ignoring anyone who asks you to explain yourself?

Timberrrrrrrr

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Do you intend on actually engaging with other posters in here? Or just posting and ignoring anyone who asks you to explain yourself?

It's what he has always done, notice how he has (yet again) ignored any questions about his blatant plagarism? Typical seagull poster.

dwayneshintzy

Wow, Biden dramatically widens his lead and is now up by 12 points!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign-polls/512271-biden-up-by-12-points-among-registered-voters-nationally-poll%3famp

dwayneshintzy

Oh wow, looks like it's actually a 16 point lead Biden has!

https://twitter.com/pmartin_UdeM/status/1295732217298194433?s=19

Tell me how

Hope Biden's camp pays no attention to the polls.

Cody montana

Tell me how wrote: »

Hope Biden's camp pays no attention to the polls.

They need to act like they are 20 points down.

Timberrrrrrrr

Cody montana wrote: »

They need to act like they are 20 points down.

Exactly, dont take the foot off the pedal for a second, hopefully they absolutely humiliate Trump and win by such a large margin that he can scream "rigged election" and howl at the moon all he likes.

Tell me how

Tell me how wrote: »

Hope Biden's camp pays no attention to the polls.

Yep, I'm still not treating them very seriously. Think the interference is a huge risk.

Cody montana

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Exactly, dont take the foot off the pedal for a second, hopefully they absolutely humiliate Trump and win by such a large margin that he can scream "rigged election" and howl at the moon all he likes.

Hillary messed up with that sort of attitude last time.

Think they should be targeting more young people too.

The gop need to be annihilated as well.

timsey tiger

Cody montana wrote: »

Hillary messed up with that sort of attitude last time.

Think they should be targeting more young people too.

The gop need to be annihilated as well.

Yes they need the senate, as the presidency to repair the harm caused by trump.

Kidchameleon

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trump is holding Cuomo responsible for Covid deaths in New York. He is projecting very hard here: the President who has overseen 175k deaths.

As Governor of New York, is Cuomo not ultimately responsible for his states response to the pandemic? What specifically did Trump do or not do that led to New York being so hard hit?

Consider some of Cuomo's moves early on in the pandemic:

March 25th:

https://www.propublica.org/article/fire-through-dry-grass-andrew-cuomo-saw-covid-19-threat-to-nursing-homes-then-he-risked-adding-to-it

On March 25, 2020, Cuomo and the New York State Department of Health issued an advisory requiring the admission of patients to nursing homes who test positive for the coronavirus and barred testing prospective nursing home patients. This order was revoked on May 10 after widespread criticism from medical experts. By then, as many as 4,500 COVID-19 infected patients had been sent to nursing homes in NY state. Over 6,000 New York state nursing home residents have died of COVID as of June 2020.

March 28th:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/28/coronavirus-gov-andrew-cuomo-rips-possible-new-york-travel-ban/2934494001/

New York's governor on Saturday ripped suggestions by President Donald Trump that he might institute a ban on New Yorkers' travel to other states amid the coronavirus outbreak, and Cuomo threatened to sue Rhode Island if it continues to seek out New Yorkers entering its borders.

"I don't believe that any federal administration could be serious about physical lockdowns on parts of states across this country," Cuomo said on CNN. "I don't believe it's legal. It would be economic chaos."

https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

“No city in the state can quarantine itself without state approval,” Cuomo said of de Blasio’s call for a shelter-in-place order. “I have no plan whatsoever to quarantine any city.”

Cuomo’s conviction didn’t last. On March 22, he, too, shuttered his state.

dwayneshintzy

Senate Intel report; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html#click=https://t.co/6W9esNt1mc

Trump and the campaign actively sought Russian assistance, Trump had advance knowledge of WikiLeaks dump and lied about it to Robert Mueller, Paul Manafort was working directly with Russian intelligence, etc, etc

Manic Moran

Cody montana wrote: »

Hillary messed up with that sort of attitude last time.

Think they should be targeting more young people too.

The gop need to be annihilated as well.

Hmm. All politics are local, as someone once said. Flipping the Senate is going to be tougher.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/08/04/biden-hasnt-lifted-democrats-in-key-red-state-senate-races-polling-shows/#78fcbc4a6e2f
Even as Joe Biden dominates President Trump in national and battleground state polling, it does not appear enough to lift Democrats to victory in Senate races in red states, new polling shows, a sign Democrats will have to walk a tightrope in other Senate races to flip control of the Upper Chamber.

They will need to flip net three seats (Presuming Biden wins). They will almost certainly lose Alabama, requiring four. On the other hand, Arizona's looking good for them. Back to needing three of the current. Maine will probably flip. Colorado is leaning in that direction. So is North Carolina. Democrat challengers in the other three close States are playing catchup. So, if the election were held tomorrow, there's a better-than-average chance of a Democrat flip, but it will be far from an annihilation. Likely a few more D in the House, though.

Quin_Dub

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Senate Intel report; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html#click=https://t.co/6W9esNt1mc

Trump and the campaign actively sought Russian assistance, Trump had advance knowledge of WikiLeaks dump and lied about it to Robert Mueller, Paul Manafort was working directly with Russian intelligence, etc, etc

That won't impact his base support , but that should be the tipping point for the Senate at least.

The attack ads on people like Collins , Ernst , Gardner etc. just write themselves.

Might even tip the scales on Lindsey Graham

timsey tiger

Manic Moran wrote: »

Hmm. All politics are local, as someone once said. Flipping the Senate is going to be tougher.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/08/04/biden-hasnt-lifted-democrats-in-key-red-state-senate-races-polling-shows/#78fcbc4a6e2f
Even as Joe Biden dominates President Trump in national and battleground state polling, it does not appear enough to lift Democrats to victory in Senate races in red states, new polling shows, a sign Democrats will have to walk a tightrope in other Senate races to flip control of the Upper Chamber.

They will need to flip net three seats (Presuming Biden wins). They will almost certainly lose Alabama, requiring four. On the other hand, Arizona's looking good for them. Back to needing three of the current. Maine will probably flip. Colorado is leaning in that direction. So is North Carolina. Democrat challengers in the other three close States are playing catchup. So, if the election were held tomorrow, there's a better-than-average chance of a Democrat flip, but it will be far from an annihilation. Likely a few more D in the House, though.

RCP average of polls is giving them 51 seats (+4) in senate at the moment

dwayneshintzy

Quin_Dub wrote: »

That won't impact his base support , but that should be the tipping point for the Senate at least.

The attack ads on people like Collins , Ernst , Gardner etc. just write themselves.

Might even tip the scales on Lindsey Graham

All time classic from Paul Manafort here, back during the 2016 campaign;

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1295775490788081664?s=19

Kidchameleon

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Senate Intel report; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html#click=https://t.co/6W9esNt1mc

Trump and the campaign actively sought Russian assistance, Trump had advance knowledge of WikiLeaks dump and lied about it to Robert Mueller, Paul Manafort was working directly with Russian intelligence, etc, etc

Other than Hillary having classified emails on a private server, what laws were broken? Are we likely to see the president in Trouble?

Kidchameleon

Trump pardons Susan B Anthony:



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-susan-b-anthony-pardon.html


Fantastic gesture by the president.

Kidchameleon

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Trump pardons Susan B Anthony:



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-susan-b-anthony-pardon.html


Fantastic gesture by the president.

Thank you for your propaganda hour. Wonder if he'll get many more of his friends off criminal charges in next few months.

Eric Cartman

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Trump pardons Susan B Anthony:



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-susan-b-anthony-pardon.html


Fantastic gesture by the president.

A nice token gesture.

now to wait for the false outrage, outrage over something irrelevant to the story or Susan B magically becoming known as Susan B slave owner klan woman racist.

EDIT : Wow ^^^^^ 2 minutes is all it took.

mcmoustache

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Other than Hillary having classified emails on a private server, what laws were broken? Are we likely to see the president in Trouble?

Plenty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

As Mueller pointed out, were Trump not POTUS, he would be getting a visit. Unfortunately, DOJ policy protects him from that.

mcmoustache

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Trump pardons Susan B Anthony:



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-susan-b-anthony-pardon.html


Fantastic gesture by the president.

She'll be delighted. It's not a moment too soon.

Kidchameleon

Despite what the haters say, President Trump demonstrably cares about women's rights. Again, fantastic gesture.

Eric Cartman

mcmoustache wrote: »

She'll be delighted. It's not a moment too soon.

the pardoning of Alan Turing was met very positively and seen as a favourable gesture , this is no different, people issue with it is who's doing the pardoning.

Kidchameleon

mcmoustache wrote: »

Plenty of perjury and obstruction of justice.

As Mueller pointed out, were Trump not POTUS, he would be getting a visit. Unfortunately, DOJ policy protects him from that.

I believe Hillary should get a visit also. I hope during the second term, President Trump makes good on his promise to have her investigated. In my opinion she obstructed justice relating to the private server debacle.

Kidchameleon

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the pardoning of Alan Turing was met very positively and seen as a favourable gesture , this is no different, people issue with it is who's doing the pardoning.

Off topic but I recommend having a look at Alan Turing's papers & essays. The man was so far beyond genius level.

Overheal

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Despite what the haters say, President Trump demonstrably cares about women's rights.

Demonstrate it, then. And I don't mean with a photo op or pardoning someone who is long dead. What has Trump done to further women's rights?