2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Overheal

timsey tiger wrote: »

Demonstrating Overheals point above, inspiring video here, could reassure some of the more reasonable GOP supporters that it is time to dump Trump.

Yep - I should mention that the DNC has also courted the McCain wing of the GOP party. Probably the Romneys also.

MisterAnarchy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the Dems are not a left wing party. i have no idea what you think you are doing by repeating it.

Of course they are left wing ,all liberal parties are.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

Perhaps you meant to say that they are not far left wing ?

Overheal

People are trying to say AOC doesn't endorse Biden.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-kilmeade-bizarrely-claims-aoc-leading-far-left-dem-takeover-with-hostage-video-endorsing-bernie-over-biden/

It takes a very special misunderstanding of what happened at the convention to conclude that. 2 people each officially nominate the candidates who filed the paperwork for nomination - Joe Biden, and Bernie Sanders. She was one of the 2 people to formally introduce the nomination for Bernie. The delegate roll call also counted the amount of delegates that Bernie Sanders received.

Overheal

Here's the full roll call - you can see AOC's Bernie nomination therein. If you watch the whole thing you will see a whole lot, including the most bizarre plug for fried calamari I have ever seen in my life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9s4x_Mybs

Skip to 31:45 for the calamari. AOC is the 2nd person to speak in the video after the chairman.

DNC crushed it with the roll call.

ohnonotgmail

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Of course they are left wing ,all liberal parties are.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

Perhaps you meant to say that they are not far left wing ?

i'm pretty sure i said what i meant.

timsey tiger

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Of course they are left wing ,all liberal parties are.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

Perhaps you meant to say that they are not far left wing ?

The Liberal Democrats weren't left wing.

MisterAnarchy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm pretty sure i said what i meant.

In that case I suggest you read a book on politics.

The Liberal Democrats weren't left wing.

They are centre to centre left,they certainly aren't right wing.

ohnonotgmail

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

In that case I suggest you read a book on politics.

.

you're grand.

Carfacemandog

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

In that case I suggest you read a book on politics.



They are centre to centre left,they certainly aren't right wing.

It does however show the republicans to be closer to far right than centre right or even right wing, which is what many have been saying for a while now.

Overheal

CONPLAN 3501-08 already exists to allow the Military to augment the postal service during a crisis, it is only inaction from POTUS and SecDef for why it is not activated. This would certainly clear out any postal backlog and ensure the speedy delivery of lawful ballots.

https://publicintelligence.net/usnorthcom-dsca/

Eric Cartman

Carfacemandog wrote: »

It does however show the republicans to be closer to far right than centre right or even right wing, which is what many have been saying for a while now.

the GOP are right wing but nowhere near far right. the Dems are centre right by European standards but Obama started the shift from left of centre to left by American standards and being solidly left is the ticket that Hillary ran on and Biden will continue to run on. The far left (us standards) / moderate left (Europe standards) section like AOC and Bernie have certainly gained traction and the party has moved increasingly left to keep those votes in the centre.

Lumping moderate right policies and actions into the 'far right' is probably the most dangerous thing to do in politics, it gives the actual far right an avenue to creep up.

Overheal

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the GOP are right wing but nowhere near far right. the Dems are centre right by European standards but Obama started the shift from left of centre to left by American standards and being solidly left is the ticket that Hillary ran on and Biden will continue to run on. The far left (us standards) / moderate left (Europe standards) section like AOC and Bernie have certainly gained traction and the party has moved increasingly left to keep those votes in the centre.

From the same link shared above to call Democrats Left Wing:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

Carfacemandog

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the GOP are right wing but nowhere near far right. the Dems are centre right by European standards but Obama started the shift from left of centre to left by American standards and being solidly left is the ticket that Hillary ran on and Biden will continue to run on. The far left (us standards) / moderate left (Europe standards) section like AOC and Bernie have certainly gained traction and the party has moved increasingly left to keep those votes in the centre.

Lumping moderate right policies and actions into the 'far right' is probably the most dangerous thing to do in politics, it gives the actual far right an avenue to creep up.

I am literally repeating what the article Mister Anarchy linked to said.

Now back to the fake news article you posted of the video opposition to Susan B Anthony's pardoning being in opposition to Trump (when it was actually from Nov 2018), were you duped by that or just intentionally spreading something you knew to be false?

MisterAnarchy

Carfacemandog wrote: »

It does however show the republicans to be closer to far right than centre right or even right wing, which is what many have been saying for a while now.

Trump isnt a typical Republican though ,his policies are much more central.

Eric Cartman

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Trump isnt a typical Republican though ,his policies are much more central.

very true, much less interested in war and god than other republicans.

ohnonotgmail

Eric Cartman wrote: »

very true, much less interested in war and god than other republicans.

sure

Eric Cartman

Carfacemandog wrote: »

I am literally repeating what the article Mister Anarchy linked to said.

Now back to the fake news article you posted of the video opposition to Susan B Anthony's pardoning being in opposition to Trump (when it was actually from Nov 2018), were you duped by that or just intentionally spreading something you knew to be false?

the video was finding historic racism and holding it to modern standards, I failed to see it was an earlier timestamp.

Susan B Anthony was and is still a hero of womens rights in America. That video and other posts asserting her as a racist are only re-occuring now because of who pardoned her. That video is fake news, along with most of 'nowthis' shock value anti trump content.

Igotadose

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the video was finding historic racism and holding it to modern standards, I failed to see it was an earlier timestamp.

Susan B Anthony was and is still a hero of womens rights in America. That video and other posts asserting her as a racist are only re-occuring now because of who pardoned her. That video is fake news, along with most of 'nowthis' shock value anti trump content.

How is it fake? Everything thing in it is true. The #IMPOTUS pardoning her was just a dogwhistle, laughable with his assault on voting rights (and the census FFS, he even blurted something about redistricting recently)

Overheal

The Susan B Anthony museum declined the pardon on her behalf.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/objection-susan-b-anthony-museum-rejects-trumps-pardon-of-the-suffragist/

ohnonotgmail

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the video was finding historic racism and holding it to modern standards, I failed to see it was an earlier timestamp.

Susan B Anthony was and is still a hero of womens rights in America. That video and other posts asserting her as a racist are only re-occuring now because of who pardoned her. That video is fake news, along with most of 'nowthis' shock value anti trump content.

the video was nothing to do with trump. can you at least admit that?

Igotadose

I mean, really. Goodyear? Bans political attire, and he tweets about it calling for a boycott?

Goodyear?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0819/1160138-trump-calls-for-boycott-of-goodyear-tyres/

ohnonotgmail

Overheal wrote: »

The Susan B Anthony museum declined the pardon on her behalf.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/objection-susan-b-anthony-museum-rejects-trumps-pardon-of-the-suffragist/

the pardon is a nonsense.

Overheal

Igotadose wrote: »

I mean, really. Goodyear? Bans political attire, and he tweets about it calling for a boycott?

Goodyear?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0819/1160138-trump-calls-for-boycott-of-goodyear-tyres/

Cancel culture is only bad when the libz do it.

Cody montana

Igotadose wrote: »

I mean, really. Goodyear? Bans political attire, and he tweets about it calling for a boycott?

Goodyear?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0819/1160138-trump-calls-for-boycott-of-goodyear-tyres/

Trump cancel culture.
Imagine any other president calling for a boycott of a huge American company.

Quin_Dub

Igotadose wrote: »

I mean, really. Goodyear? Bans political attire, and he tweets about it calling for a boycott?

Goodyear?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0819/1160138-trump-calls-for-boycott-of-goodyear-tyres/

His complaint is that they have banned MAGA hats , but a BLM or Pride t-shirt etc is still ok.

The Goodyear position is - Supporting Social Justice issues ok , explicit support for a specific Politician or Party , not ok.

What he doesn't say is that equally someone can't wear a BIDEN 2020 t-shirt either.

Cody montana

Overheal wrote: »

Cancel culture is only bad when the libz do it.

And just like that, trump supporters are filling Goodyear’s media pages with vitriol.

Cody montana

“Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company is an American tire manufacturing company founded in 1898 and based in Akron,Ohio. They employ about 69,000 people including at least a thousand veterans.”

Is Ohio a swing state?

Leroy42

He did the same with Harley Davidson at the start of his term.

It completely exposes he line that he is all about MAGA and America 1st.

He is only interested in Trump 1st.

ohnonotgmail

Cody montana wrote: »

“Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company is an American tire manufacturing company founded in 1898 and based in Akron,Ohio. They employ about 69,000 people including at least a thousand veterans.”

Is Ohio a swing state?

sort of but not one of the really close ones.

Overheal

Cody montana wrote: »

“Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company is an American tire manufacturing company founded in 1898 and based in Akron,Ohio. They employ about 69,000 people including at least a thousand veterans.”

Is Ohio a swing state?

It is, and it's where Gym Jordan hails from. Not his district, though, Akron.