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PL Team of the Season

  • 27-07-2020 2:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    So now that the PL is finished time to pick TOTY.

    My choice is

    Henderson
    TAA, Egan, VVD, Robertson
    DM?
    KDB, Henderson
    PEA, Ings, Mane

    Not 100% on the DM.

    Was between Henderson and Alisson for the keeper spot but went with Henderson.

    I went with Ings over Vardy because his goals seemed to be much more decisive in getting points on the board.

    Maybe we could do a poll to vote on the positions like is done in the gaming forum for GOTY? A thread where people nominate a player for a position and then the top three are voted on and the winner is then the one with the most votes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Henderson and the two top level big side keepers mean that Pope gets overlooked so I'll stick him in.

    Pope
    TAA--Laporte--VVD--Robbo
    Ndidi
    KDB--
    Son
    --Pierre---Ings---Mane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Henderson and the two top level big side keepers mean that Pope gets overlooked so I'll stick him in.

    Pope
    TAA--Laporte--VVD--Robbo
    Ndidi
    KDB--Son
    --Pierre---Ings---Mane

    Think I'd have the exact same thing. Maybe Pulisic for Son but that's him slightly out of position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Henderson and the two top level big side keepers mean that Pope gets overlooked so I'll stick him in.

    Pope
    TAA--Laporte--VVD--Robbo
    Ndidi
    KDB--Son
    --Pierre---Ings---Mane

    Not sure how you can include Laporte when he only played 15 games?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Not sure how you can include Laporte when he only played 15 games?


    Bruno only played 13 and he's worthy of a position I would think.

    If a certain amount of games are required definitely think you nailed it with Egan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭BazBox


    Allison

    TAA Van Dijk Evans Robertson

    Henderson

    De Bruyne Bruno F

    Rashford Ings Mane

    United fan so throwing Rashford in there cos im biased, if I wasn't I would probably go for Aubameyang


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Bruno only played 13 and he's worthy of a position I would think.

    If a certain amount of games are required definitely think you nailed it with Egan.

    Over a full season Bruno probably gets in but hard to pick him over either KDB (assists for my team) or Henderson (perfect foil for KDB with his work rate) this season.

    He only played 13 games this season but he was poor enough in the final three because Ole managed his time on the field since the restart poorly after the first few games and he looked dead on his feet. Now if you want to drop the DM and put him in that's fair enough but I think the team is more balanced with a dedicated DM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Think I'd have the exact same thing. Maybe Pulisic for Son but that's him slightly out of position.

    Not as if Son is a CM either :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Looked at OPs team and thought "Why the hell is he putting Henderson in goal?" but then realised you meant that Henderson.

    Liverpool well represented nonetheless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,325 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Pope
    TAA - Egan - VVD - Robertson
    Henderson
    Fernandes - De Bruyne
    Salah - Vardy - Mane

    Went with Fernandes too for his impact, they wouldn't of been in the Top 4 without him.

    Allison had 13 clean sheets and played 9 games less than Pope (15 cleansheets), but Pope is an excellent keeper and doesn't have VVD in front of him so gets my pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright



    Pope

    Trent ----Egan ---VVD --RObbo

    Fabhino

    Hendo
    KDB

    --MAne---Vardy
    PEA


    Bruno just misses out because of the formation

    Fabhino had the best season out of any number 6 by a mile,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,325 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I'd have had Fabinho in there too but he badly struggled for form after getting injured up till the break and that seems like forever and a go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    rob316 wrote: »
    I'd have had Fabinho in there too but he badly struggled for form after getting injured up till the break and that seems like forever and a go!

    He came back in 5 Prem games before lockdown and the first was a 4-0 win ,
    He struggled in the fa cup game to Chelsea (doesn't count)
    I can only recall him being poor away to Watford in the Prem

    The rest of the season he was unreal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,325 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    He came back in 5 Prem games before lockdown and the first was a 4-0 win ,
    He struggled in the fa cup game to Chelsea (doesn't count)
    I can only recall him being poor away to Watford in the Prem

    The rest of the season he was unreal

    Pre injury he was unreal but like I said I can't remember pre lockdown, its forever and a go. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok



    allison

    TAA---Van Dijk----Maguire
    Robertson


    Rodri


    ----de bruyne
    fernandes


    ----Mane
    vardy
    auba


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,773 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Maguire wasn't even United's best defender. Fernandes brilliant, but doesn't get in by virtue of of not playing enough games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Maguire wasn't even United's best defender. Fernandes brilliant, but doesn't get in by virtue of of not playing enough games.

    maguire had more clearances, blocks, interceptions, headed clearances and won more aerial battles than any centre back at the club. Has been a rock all season and is the main reason utd have had the most clean sheets in all competitions in europe this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    bangkok wrote: »
    maguire had more clearances, blocks, interceptions, headed clearances and won more aerial battles than any centre back at the club. Has been a rock all season and is the main reason utd have had the most clean sheets in all competitions in europe this season

    He's replacement at Leicester had a better season than him , Even if you go just English Joe Gomez has been far better,

    The reason why United have the most clean sheets is down to playing Europa against likes of Astan ,Ak Alkmaar , Patizan , Lask ,Brugge all twice, while the rest of Europe top teams play Champions league ,

    Then in domestic cup playing nearly full strength team against the like of Colchester ,Tranmere and the likes,

    Don't kid yourself

    Maguire not even close to making team of the season ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    He's replacement at Leicester had a better season than him , Even if you go just English Joe Gomez has been far better,

    The reason why United have the most clean sheets is down to playing Europa against likes of Astan ,Ak Alkmaar , Patizan , Lask ,Brugge all twice, while the rest of Europe top teams play Champions league ,

    Then in domestic cup playing nearly full strength team against the like of Colchester ,Tranmere and the likes,

    Don't kid yourself

    Maguire not even close to making team of the season ,


    you have egan in your team....

    in the Premier league Maguire has more...

    clean sheets

    Interceptions

    headed clearances

    aerial battles won

    twice as many passes

    a much higher pass completion 86% compared to 80% for egan

    twice as many forward passes

    he is defo in with a shout and id say Maguires stats are just as good as most of the centre backs in the league if not better.

    much better stats than Egan anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,773 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    bangkok wrote: »
    maguire had more clearances, blocks, interceptions, headed clearances and won more aerial battles than any centre back at the club. Has been a rock all season and is the main reason utd have had the most clean sheets in all competitions in europe this season

    He also let more players dribble by him then anyone, let the offside trap down more than others, gave away more fouls.

    I think he has to make a lot of blocks and tackles precisely because he doesn't read situations as well as Lindeloff and has to make up for it with the old fashioned grit type of defending.

    Where he is getting a lot of his score for is his key passes and stuff like that, but he's not the reason they have the most clean sheets.

    He was easily the worst of the 4 defenders yesterday, and arguably the worst of the defenders since the return of football.

    Maguire's importance has been vastly overstated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Weepsie wrote: »
    He also let more players dribble by him then anyone, let the offside trap down more than others, gave away more fouls.

    I think he has to make a lot of blocks and tackles precisely because he doesn't read situations as well as Lindeloff and has to make up for it with the old fashioned grit type of defending.

    Where he is getting a lot of his score for is his key passes and stuff like that, but he's not the reason they have the most clean sheets.

    He was easily the worst of the 4 defenders yesterday, and arguably the worst of the defenders since the return of football.

    Maguire's importance has been vastly overstated.

    its team of the season, not just the last few weeks or yesterday for that matter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,773 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Anyway,

    Allison,

    TAA, Virgil, Tarkowski, Robertson

    N'Didi
    De Bruyne, Mane

    Salah Vardy Auba


    Kind of cheating having Mane as a midfielder/winger hybrid. Salah did not have a great season by the standards he has set, but he's still had a great season. I'd go for Fernandes if he'd played another 10 or so games.

    Silva, Mahrez, Henderson (Jordan), Perreira, Digne, Ings and Nick Pope would make up my very lobsided bench


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,773 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    bangkok wrote: »
    its team of the season, not just the last few weeks or yesterday for that matter

    If you're including someone who has played less than half the season, you should be excluding someone who has been mediocre at best for about close to a third of it.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Lincoln Mushy Wharf


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53546051

    Gareth Crooks team of the season

    i actually totally forgot about Sterling, i would have to get him into my team somehow...

    also he has Maguire on his team as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    bangkok wrote: »
    you have egan in your team....

    Maguire has more...

    clean sheets

    Interceptions

    headed clearances

    aerial battles won

    twice as many passes

    a much higher pass completion 86% compared to 80% for egan

    twice as many forward passes

    he is defo in with a shout and id say Maguires stats are just as good as most of the centre backs in the league if not better.

    much better stats than Egan anyway


    Egan conceded less goals than Maguire
    Egan blocked more shots
    Egan had more Clearances
    Egan scored more goals
    Egan received less cards


    Tackles there is 1% success difference to Maguire but Egan made more

    Egan plays in a worse team. Egans first season in the Premier league

    Also stat are nonsense there is no stat the shows Maguire mistake for the Spurs goal, the Bournemouth goal where; he megged in his own box, The Saint goal where he marks his own player,

    Let see how may teams Maguire makes it into ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    bangkok wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53546051

    Gareth Crooks team of the season

    i actually totally forgot about Sterling, i would have to get him into my team somehow...

    also he has Maguire on his team as well

    agreeing with Gareth Crooks should never be a badge of honour:D


    Sterling is a strange one he was unreal until they played Liverpool and then was dross until after lockdown ,
    For me it was between him and Vardy and i went Vardy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,773 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    If you're turning to Garth Crooks for backup...He's a terrible pundit and even worse analyst. He routinely picks players in his team of the week simply due to them being England internationals too.

    That said, I did omit Sterling perhaps unfairly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Weepsie wrote: »
    If you're turning to Garth Crooks for backup...He's a terrible pundit and even worst analyst. He routinely picks players in his team of the week simply due to them being England internationals too.

    That said, I did omit Sterling perhaps unfairly.

    https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/premier-league-team-of-the-season/182513

    Sporting life are very good, Paul MacDonald from football critic has Maguire in his team as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    bangkok wrote: »
    https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/premier-league-team-of-the-season/182513

    Sporting life are very good, Paul MacDonald from football critic has Maguire in his team as well

    Can you stop trying to prove your point? Others disagree with you and that's ok. Just move on and we'll see what others pick.

    Maybe a mod can see if my suggestion in the first post is feasible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,325 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Maguire's problem is they paid so much for him, fans and rival fans expect Van Dijk level of performances. He's a fine CB but he performed to his level, nothing ground breaking. Other players I feel had a better season than him and exceeded expectations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Mine would be:

    ———————Pope———————
    Trent—-Soyuncu—-VVD—-Robbo
    ———————Ndidi———————
    ———Henderson—-KDB————
    —Salah—-—-PEA—-——-Mane—

    Alisson, Wan-Bissaka, Gomez, Fabinho, Fernandes, Sterling and Jimenez on the bench.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Pope
    TAA - Egan - VVD - Robertson
    Ndidi
    Henderson -De Bruyne
    Sterling
    Ings - Vardy

    Subs: Allison, Digne, Soyuncu, Fernandes/Grealish, Salah, Mane, Auba


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,385 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Pope
    TAA-Egan-VVD-Robertson
    Henderson-KDB-Fernandes
    Auba-Ings-Mane

    Henderson, Tarkowski, Soyuncu, Ndidi, Mount, Salah, Vardy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Weepsie wrote: »
    If you're turning to Garth Crooks for backup...He's a terrible pundit and even worse analyst. He routinely picks players in his team of the week simply due to them being England internationals too.

    That said, I did omit Sterling perhaps unfairly.

    He mustnt be too bright if he’s nearly putting Rudiger in his team for coming into the team in September and ‘never looking back’

    Rudiger made 1 appearance in September before getting injured again until mid December, and the lad would hardly make Chelsea’s TOTS never mind the EPL one

    Hard to take someone seriously when they’re that far off the mark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    --Allisson
    Trent--Van Dijk---Tarkowski--Roberston

    De Bruyne--Henderson--
    Mane Pulisic
    Aubameyang
    Ings


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Rock77


    Pope

    TAA- VVD- Maguire- Robertson

    KDB- Henderson- Fernandes

    Vardy- Ings- Auba


    It’s slim pickings at centre half for me, nobody obvious... didn’t really want Maguire....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Intresting that Salah h only made one team so far

    He out scored and out assisted Sterling and Mane who've been in many teams including my own,

    Also nice to see Burnley and Sheffield United player make it in some teams,

    Surprised Joe Gomez hasn't made any

    Be great if we could take the player most voted for here at tand see what the boards team of the season would like like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭POKERKING


    Intresting that Slaah only made one team so far

    He out scored and out assisted Sterling and Mane who've been in many teams including my own,

    Also nice to see Burnley and Sheffield United player make it in some teams,

    Surprised Joe Gomez hasn't made any

    Be great if we could take the player most voted for here at tand see what the boards team of the season would like like

    Wouldnt that just be dominated by utd and liverpool players given the fans on the board?

    Mine:

    Pope

    Taa soyuncu vvd robertson

    Ndidi
    Henderson kdb

    Sterling Vardy Mane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    POKERKING wrote: »
    Wouldnt that just be dominated by utd and liverpool players given the fans on the board?

    Mine:

    Pope

    Taa soyuncu vvd robertson

    Ndidi
    Henderson kdb

    Sterling Vardy Mane

    So far everyones been fair with there picks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Pope

    TAA - Mings - VVD - Robertson

    Henderson - De Bruyne - Bruno

    Mane - Ings - Salah


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  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭al87987


    Pope

    TAA VVD Egan Robertson

    Henderson KDB Grealish

    Auba Jimenez Mane

    Difficulty choosing the 2nd CB but went for Egan.

    Grealish is probably the single most important player for his team outside of maybe Auba.

    Jimenez had a fantastic season too, beats out Ings and Vardy for his consistency for me even though he didn't match them for goals.

    All others pretty easy to understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    The who scored stats team of the year was Released for the stat lovers amongst us
    Leno
    Trent, VVD, Tarkoski, Digne
    Salah, Grealish, KDB, Mane
    Martial Jimenez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    al87987 wrote: »
    Pope

    TAA VVD Egan Robertson

    Henderson KDB Grealish

    Auba Jimenez Mane

    Difficulty choosing the 2nd CB but went for Egan.

    Grealish is probably the single most important player for his team outside of maybe Auba.

    Jimenez had a fantastic season too, beats out Ings and Vardy for his consistency for me even though he didn't match them for goals.

    All others pretty easy to understand.

    That's fair although Vardy was top scorer he went through a very long period from December to after lockdown of not scoring or maybe he got one,
    A bit like Sterling when he's hot he's hot, but can have a long tíme being off form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Alison
    TAA VvD Soyuncu Robertson

    Henderson

    KdB B. Fernandes

    Mane Ings PEA

    I found Keeper and Centre half really difficult. Pope and Henderson are great alternatives. Likewise Egan, Tarkowski and Gomez are good shouts. I went with Fernandes in midfield as though he didn't play as much I don't see anyone else having as big an influence on a team! (Sorry I just got a little sick in my mouth)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    adaminho wrote: »
    I went with Fernandes in midfield as though he didn't play as much I don't see anyone else having as big an influence on a team! (Sorry I just got a little sick in my mouth)

    Grealish was involved in 35% of all Villa's league goals this season. Without him Villa would have been f**ked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭DJIMI TRARORE


    Pope
    TAA. VVD SOYUNCO. ROBBO
    RICE
    STERLING. KDB MANE
    PEA. INGS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭adaminho


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Grealish was involved in 35% of all Villa's league goals this season. Without him Villa would have been f**ked.

    Jack Grealish 36 Apps 8 G 6 A
    Bruno Fernandes 14 Apps 8 G 7 A

    I hate Utd but even I can see the difference!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    adaminho wrote: »
    Jack Grealish 36 Apps 8 G 6 A
    Bruno Fernandes 14 Apps 8 G 7 A

    I hate Utd but even I can see the difference!

    If you're going by that Logic I think the majority of Bruno's goals where penalties.

    I agree with Titan. I think Villa are 100% relegated without him.

    Not saying he's a better player by any means. But his impact was just as important


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    If you're going by that Logic I think the majority of Bruno's goals where penalties.

    I agree with Titan. I think Villa are 100% relegated without him.

    Not saying he's a better player by any means. But his impact was just as important

    Four of Fernandes goals were penalties. Don't think Grealish takes them for Villa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Rock77


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Four of Fernandes goals were penalties. Don't think Grealish takes them for Villa.

    Penalties still have to be scored, some were high pressure penalties like yesterday...

    Utd would not have gotten Champs League had they not signed Bruno


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