Second Captains Part II

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122706379#Comment_122706379

Wahey, they did one!

dog_pig

It was funny hearing Eoin get defensive after being rightfully called out on his bluffing. Not sure he was quite the wrestling fan he was trying to make out he was.

cheese sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122706805#Comment_122706805

If you know nothing about the Attitude era, and can’t even recognise Eddie Guerrero, you ain’t no wrasslin’ fan

dog_pig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122706906#Comment_122706906

He mustn't have seen the irony in trying to justify it by saying that wrestling is only for children anyway, poor Eoin.

Tucker.Tim

If Eoin didn’t watch the best Hell in a Cell match ever at the weekend between Drew and Punk he’s no wrestling fan

Also, from growing up on a farm, calling what Collins did cowlike insults the intelligence and speed of cows

Neckofit

Catching up with the politics pod from (I think) Wednesday and the interview with Sally Hayden is excellent but the book excerpt that Ken reads for the last few minutes of the episode stopped me in my tracks. Absolutely chilling and essential listening. I hope they make that episode free to all.

Tucker.Tim

If Greece win again I’m going to start a petition for the Brits to keep the Parthenon marbles

Patsy167

Richie is addicted to human suffering. They luckily steered him back on track before he kept digging deeper.

Smell the glove

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718213#Comment_122718213

I don't mind him but he is the Joe Duffy of punditry.

jones

Going to say the same about Richie. He's good but by god he's very grim.

Tucker.Tim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718213#Comment_122718213

Have you watched Ireland play football at any point over the last five years.

Lads are actually happy with us not taking an absolute hammering like usual when we go down by a goal, that’s how low the expectations have became.

Heimir at least took charge of the team this window and they looked like they were trying to do something but that’s about it. Finland for all the joy of the win were a team ranked below us so it’s akin to holding par rather than a bright new dawn.

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718747#Comment_122718747

I think you took the post you quoted up wrong. Sadlier lingered on the emotional and psychological affect of George Baldocks death longer than he needed to before being moved on.

halfpastneverr

I knew once I heard Richie's voice that he wouldn't be able to resist mentioning the tragic death of Baldock, thank God the lads pulled him away from it. Is Richie still doing his own pod these days? I'd imagine a sub to that comes with a prescription for antidepressants.

Tucker.Tim

Sexton is class

choosetheend

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122720415#Comment_122720415

Simon: "I heard you're not a fan of being questioned about your record with concussions...well here's 8 questions on that very topic"

Sexton: "anyway..."

Eoin: "enough about that, let's move on to your parents' divorce"

Tucker.Tim

With the silly parochialism I see in the GAA and the success someone like Faz has had with the national rugby team it’s hard to buy Rory Smith’s take on Tommy Tuchel and the England job.

The one inevitability for me is when England fail as normal at a tournament the xenophobia will go into overdrive among supporters simply because he’s German.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122726551#Comment_122726551

For you, failure is two second places and a third place but success is a WC QF exit for the rugby lads?

Who the **** Is "Faz"?

Tucker.Tim

Only realised today the pre-2017 podcasts are on the Spotify feed.

It’s bizarre they’ve not been added to the Patreon RSS feed, it would make searching for old events so much easier if they were all together. It can’t just be the Irish Times partnership because it’s literally the same feed they’re still using right now, surely.

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122727917#Comment_122727917

Used to have the old ones on SoundCloud as well but they removed them last year.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122729378#Comment_122729378

Still up alright :)

https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptainsextras

Raoul Duke

Only half way through today's podcast. Ken got really distracted with the opportunity to talk to someone about Japan.

jaykay74

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122731317#Comment_122731317

Thought that bit went on a bit alright in terms of the point of the interview but eventually gets back on track.

Tucker.Tim

To be honest they didn’t spend enough time on Japan when he came back and they’ve done a billion book interviews this week. I was going to skip it until I realised it was the guy who wrote The Damned United and Red Riding.

cheese sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122734295#Comment_122734295

He also wrote Red or Dead, but don’t hold that against him.

I say that as a Liverpool fan.

Although four book shows in one week is far too many, I’m impressed they got Richard Evans on today. I haven’t listened to it yet but he’s usually very good so looking forward to it.

Tucker.Tim

I never wish a player to get injured but I am definitely not going to be too upset about Danny Welbeck being stretchered off. Now or never for Evan.

Raoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122738320#Comment_122738320

They both started today though.

Tucker.Tim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122738822#Comment_122738822

First time Evan has started with him all season. First start all season in the league in general.

cheese sandwich

Liverpool top of the league after beating the in-form team in England, so presumably Ken will spend half an hour tomorrow talking about Ten Hag.

~Rebel~

Enjoyed the Richard Evans chat. Ken’s brilliant at taking these episodes beyond just book plugging, and making them properly interesting chats that really engage the guest. The fella must read an insane amount.

God though, Branno can be a bit of a self-righteous dose at times.

cheese sandwich

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2024/10/21/ken-early-liverpool-and-chelsea-showcase-****-on-a-stick-2024-edition/

Pretty woeful take from Early here. Chelsea were a shambles last year so it was easy for Liverpool to rack up chances against them then. They’re a much more solid outfit this season so it’s hardly a shock that there were less shots on goal.

Ken mocks Postecoglou when Spurs are open against top sides and then complains when other managers prioritise defending against their rivals. It’s hard to make out any consistent argument from him, other than trying to be controversial.

Beersmith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743330#Comment_122743330

Didn't seem like your man was overly happy they didn't focus a little more on the book. Seemed like they were both a little off each others wave lengths most of the interview.

Arghus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122745063#Comment_122745063

I thought so too.

It felt like Ken was trying to steer the conversation into areas that Richard Evans wasn't too bothered about talking about. He flat out disagreed with Ken's assertions a few times - not in a confrontational way, just in a way that made it clear he didn't agree with everything Ken was saying.

And he did say at one point -"as I mention in my book, which I thought I was brought here to talk about" - which was put very politely, but it was clear he didn't get the conversation he expected.

The two of them got on and he did thank Ken at the end, but they seemed at odds in their approach at least at times. Ken was more about making statements that maybe feel true and was always trying to link to contemporary events, whereas R Evans was about rigour and, I felt, surprisingly uninterested in the current political & historical moment.

dog_pig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743330#Comment_122743330

Didn’t sound like he was on board with some of Ken’s hotter takes

cheese sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122745336#Comment_122745336

That was what I thought too. I was more interested in Evans’s insights on the Nazis than his opinions about Tucker Carlson, who Ken seems quite obsessed about

halfpastneverr

Enjoyed gormless Branno tripping himself up on the football show today. Can't stand the fella.

Tucker.Tim

Branno should probably pick a wider target than Sligo-based 1916 super-fans for the Ken wind-up tribute act if he wants it to hit.

Marky Park right in the town is named after the most republican woman to have ever lived and Murph went for Paric Sean in Carrick as the defence, do you even know your revolutionary leaders, bro?

And as an aside, Countess Markievicz is at least three times as cool as you remember from secondary school. Give her the Michael Collins biopic treatment.

Arghus

I don't mind Branno that much - he's right more often than he's wrong on things IMO, but he can come across as a bit smug.

Ol' Donie

I don't think I've ever heard the words "North star" this many times in any week of my life before.

siblers

I like Branno talking about LOI or sports in general. He comes across a bit up his own arse at times when talking about politics, films etc.

Tucker.Tim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747291#Comment_122747291

I mean sure, but at least he’s right 95% of the time. Imagine if he was some centrist eejit or right wingnut, it would be many magnitudes worse.

Also Ken’s absurd dismissal of City being awarded the winning goal is undone by the fact Wolves were stripped of a very similar winning goal last season when it went to VAR. Either the Stokely Park lads robbed them of points last season or this season. Gary O’Neill chose his words very carefully in that context because it would have been obvious to him how inconsistently the rules have been applied on something fairly simple to officiate on replay.

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747433#Comment_122747433

Ken had a stupid take on the weekends refereeing but it wasn’t the obvious correctness of the legitimacy of the city goal but it was seeing the Tosin and Saliba incidents as the same. Jonathan Wilson called this take “willful blindness” on the guardian pod.

The wolves goal vs west ham that got ruled out last season was also not very similar. The offside player was point blank in front of the keeper’s line of sight for the entire goal making it totally different and offside according to the rules of the game. Footage here https://youtu.be/UcgbjCw_MpA?si=ZthfPEuX9fCmiKM6

Keep in mind that you can see these things clearly when not viewing through a bias lens but through a club bias it is difficult to distinguish this stuff.

Smell the glove

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122747521#Comment_122747521

Nerd nonsense.

Brock Turnpike

Don't agree with the Branno hate. I actually wasn't a fan of his when he used to just be a guest for LOI spots with David Sneyd. But since he's joined the show as a producer, he's actually brought a lot to the party in terms of stories and he bounces off the lads well

sheroman01

Always love the football pods but could not get into it yesterday. Those guests were terrible. Particularly the Liverpool guy. I'm sure he'll be lauding Liverpool's amazing atmosphere and songs on a different week.

MercuryBoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122748538#Comment_122748538

Yeah sounded like an episode of "The Anfield Wrap" at times

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122748538#Comment_122748538

Honestly, I don't understand why they bring on fans for the football slots. Always the worst slots on the football show imo.

A football pundit who doesn't like football chants is certainly a new one..

Tucker.Tim

I mean he fairly effectively dismantled the points Ken was making in the pre-interview segment about the style of football without even hearing them.

Just having Wilson, Fanning and Miguel the Prophet of Wrong crying about the soul of football for 40 minutes would get very old if that’s all they did with the football guests.

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122748768#Comment_122748768

Agree re: Miguel. Every time Eoin gives a "Miguel Delaney is coming up" announcement I lose some enthusiasm for the show.

cmac2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122748527#Comment_122748527

Branno is fine in small doses but he has a tendency to get on his soapbox and preach a little too much. Smug, self-righteous, sanctimonious ...there's a common theme with people's opinion of him.

Don't mind hearing from him now and again, and he can be entertaining. But hoping he isn't becoming a regular - although that appears to be happening already. Also, I think the dynamic of 3 is far better than 4, on a regular basis anyways.