2020 World Snooker Championship

Arthur Daley

The other lad this morning with the big hair was so casual looking with his sneakers on and chequered shirt. Looked like he was off down the high street for a haircut Saturday afternoon.

I thought we are a long way from the circumspect days of David Vine and Rex Williams.

Mysterypunter

The warrior battles through the first frame in swashbuckling style, wielding his cue like a cutlass, he has inflicted a killer blow on his opponent, and it only took half an hour, eastenders is on BBC 1, but you can't beat this for drama(stole that one, think Sid Waddell said it on the darts)

gormdubhgorm

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Seema is enthusiastic, and leaves the talk to the pundits, she does a good job. There are not many ways you can ask the same questions

Yeah i suppose, but Hazel had the confidence to wind the lads up a bit etc. It will come with time hopefully. I can't that Radzi fella seriously at all though. Seems to know nothing about snooker.

Arthur Daley wrote: »

The other lad this morning with the big hair was so casual looking with his sneakers on and chequered shirt. Looked like he was off down the high street for a haircut Saturday afternoon.

I thought we are a long way from the circumspect days of David Vine and Rex Williams.

Radzi Chinyanganya

Plus he did used to be on Blue Peter (only guessed that before, looked the type)

https://www.northbanktalent.com/clients/childrens-young-adult/radzi-chinyanganya/

Chalk McHugh

Arthur Daley wrote: »

The other lad this morning with the big hair was so casual looking with his sneakers on and chequered shirt. Looked like he was off down the high street for a haircut Saturday afternoon.

I thought we are a long way from the circumspect days of David Vine and Rex Williams.

That lad with the Marianne Fellaini hair do did an interview in Ding's Sheffield academy where the most interesting thing was Ding saying you get a good Chinese hotpot in Chonquing. It was pretty lame stuff (and i'm not talking about the hotpot).

Mysterypunter

Mysterypunter wrote: »

The warrior battles through the first frame in swashbuckling style, wielding his cue like a cutlass, he has inflicted a killer blow on his opponent, and it only took half an hour, eastenders is on BBC 1, but you can't beat this for drama(stole that one, think Sid Waddell said it on the darts)

You're number one on here in comedy stakes - keep em coming, if ya can :pac:

Mysterypunter

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You're number one on here in comedy stakes - keep em coming, if ya can :pac:

I'm here all week, thanks

MrKingsley

I can’t remember the last time I heard commentators talking about “match players” this much. Now whilst I understand it relates to the players ability to adapt to the match situation I see it as just another way of saying “snooker player”.

The best players, and the most successful ones, will have complete games. Safety, tactics, long potting and break building.

Am I missing something?

enfant terrible

Who's commentating on the Wilson McGill match on bbc with Hendry?

Is it Dominic Dale?

That right hand black pocket is savage generous

MrKingsley

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Yeah i suppose, but Hazel had the confidence to wind the lads up a bit etc. It will come with time hopefully. I can't that Radzi fella seriously at all though. Seems to know nothing about snooker.




Radzi Chinyanganya

Plus he did used to be on Blue Peter (only guessed that before, looked the type)

https://www.northbanktalent.com/clients/childrens-young-adult/radzi-chinyanganya/

He strikes me as a guy who was made to a BBC funded active listening course the way he presents and does his interviews.

However he still seems to just have his script ready at the start and goes with it regardless of the answers he’s given

Mysterypunter

MrKingsley wrote: »

He strikes me as a guy who was made to a BBC funded active listening course the way he presents and does his interviews.

However he still seems to just have his script ready at the start and goes with it regardless of the answers he’s given

Radzi is swanning around all week with angles, he's a nice lad, but is obviously there to fill the minority quota, he has a child's mentality, constantly amazed by everything. Nice lad though, might get the kids into snooker.

waynescales1

As was said before Radzi should be doing children’s TV, looks like he belongs on CBeebies.

Seema isn’t suited for snooker, too light and breezy. No substance or snooker knowledge in any of her questions or comments.

I think it’s fairly obvious they got the job so the BBC could fill their female/BAME quotas.

enfant terrible

enfant terrible wrote: »

Who's commentating on the Wilson McGill match on bbc with Hendry?

Is it Dominic Dale?

No, it's not DD. It's a new guy - 'Whispering' Dave Farrar. Don't know anything about him, first I heard from him was at this comp.

Mysterypunter

Good stuff from McGill to stay in it, Steve Davis is funny

Chalk McHugh

Yea this Radzi lad was a breath of fresh hair the first day i heard him but now the novelty has worn off and his over exuberance for even the most mundane comment is a little off putting to say the least.

Joe_ Public

He might well lose but my respect for mcgill is growing with each frame. Kind of mystifying why he should have been languishing so far down the rankings, may be he struggles for motivation in some of the lesser events.

gormdubhgorm

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Radzi is swanning around all week with angles, he's a nice lad, but is obviously there to fill the minority quota, he has a child's mentality, constantly amazed by everything. Nice lad though, might get the kids into snooker.

This sums him up real innocence about the fella. Hopefully, it does get a new generation watching/playing - game needs it.

Mysterypunter

Bad miss from McGill, lucky not to leave anything, then Wilson plays a rotten shot, could be in trouble now

Arthur Daley

Some players are just suited to the Crucible. E.g. Barry the hawk.

It could be the long matches favour them. If we could ever get the UK back to the long match format we'd have that extra dimension to the game.

At least that new ITV Coral championship with the longer matches was a step in the right direction.

Chalk McHugh

He's a decent player McGill but there are lots of good players out there. I don't pay much heed to rankings myself as their constantly changing. Anyone inside the top 50 is well capable of playing or beating anyone else. I suppose consistency is the issue. As well as McGill has done all week he could easily have lost one of his deciding frame matches so luck always plays a part. But he'll take away a nice hefty pay packet and deserves every penny.

gormdubhgorm

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No, it's not DD. It's a new guy - 'Whispering' Dave Farrar. Don't know anything about him, first I heard from him was at this comp.

I dunno whether I like this Farrar fella or not, bit mixed on him. Seems knowledgeable but then goes way over dramatic, and sounds like he is about to cry.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-farrar-105a8824?originalSubdomain=uk

Farrar does voiceovers explains it!

Chalk McHugh

Did Gary Wilson get to a semi final? Joe Swail did. Nigel Bond. They'll never be thrown about in.any 'great player' debates. Sheffield suits some more than others i guess.

I said it before, and I'll say it again... Kyren Wilson will never win the World's. I could well be wrong, as the current crop around his age, and younger are pretty poor relative to the likes of Allen , Murphy, Trump, Robbo, Selby et al, not to mention the 'class of 92'.

I also don't think that Mark Allen will ever win it, as Ronnie rates him as one of the best to have not done so. Don't think he's suited to the long format - I think Wilson is though, but just not good enough imo.

The greatest/one of the greatest 'rest players' K Wilson - well, for a tall guy he sure makes a lot of use of it :pac:

I still hope he beats McGill though, and gets to the final. McGill, for me, is only a very good good player (not that that makes sense). He's like a cross between a poor man's K Wilson and a poor man's Davis.

It would be an unlikely travesty if McGill gets through.

c.p.w.g.w

Was the red to the middle poor queing or a massive kick?

Joe_ Public

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Some players are just suited to the Crucible. E.g. Barry the hawk.

It could be the long matches favour them. If we could ever get the UK back to the long match format we'd have that extra dimension to the game.

At least that new ITV Coral championship with the longer matches was a step in the right direction.

McGill has qualified for the crucible every year since 2015 so it's definitely a good fit for him. And long format uk was a terrible loss, scandal really.

gormdubhgorm

I think McGill is channeling his inner Dott. Determined head on him.

c.p.w.g.w

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Some players are just suited to the Crucible. E.g. Barry the hawk.

It could be the long matches favour them. If we could ever get the UK back to the long match format we'd have that extra dimension to the game.

At least that new ITV Coral championship with the longer matches was a step in the right direction.

I think short format is the only way forward if they want to grow the sport and get more viewers...

Limited over cricket has opened the whole sport up to a different audience...I watch a little test cricket but only the ashes & Ireland...but I'll pretty much watch anything T20... People's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter...

Personally I do enjoy the long match format of the world's

c.p.w.g.w

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think McGill is channeling his inner Dott. Determined head on him.

I was getting a Dott vibe off him, no real flair, efficient and patient

Chalk McHugh

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

I think short format is the only way forward if they want to grow the sport and get more viewers...

Limited over cricket has opened the whole sport up to a different audience...I watch a little test cricket but only the ashes & Ireland...but I'll pretty much watch anything T20... People's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter...

Personally I do enjoy the long match format of the world's

Yea i agree. The mega marathon sessions have their place at Sheffield. I don't mind the shorter framed matches at the UK.

Rothko

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Poor girl (Seema) has an air of being thrown in at the deep end, no time to build rapport and learn to ask snooker type questions. Has to stick to generalities.

I suppose you are right male presenters have more longevity, probably unfair.

It's not her first time presenting the snooker coverage

Chalk McHugh

Rothko wrote: »

It's not her first time presenting the snooker coverage

Not by a long shot. She's at it a few years.

Rothko

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Did Gary Wilson get to a semi final? Joe Swail did. Nigel Bond. They'll never be thrown about in.any 'great player' debates. Sheffield suits some more than others i guess.

Gary Wilson was there last year

Mysterypunter

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think McGill is channeling his inner Dott. Determined head on him.

Was just going to mention Dott, another man who had a good crucible record, think he had a few health problems, but I might be mixing him up with another handy Scotsman, Chris Small, think he had a spinal condition

Chalk McHugh

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Did Gary Wilson get to a semi final? Joe Swail did. Nigel Bond. They'll never be thrown about in.any 'great player' debates. Sheffield suits some more than others i guess.

Last year I'm pretty sure he got there, only narrowly losing to Trump in semi. I was rooting for him at the time, as I feel he got that far on merit, and not an 'easy path' like this year's dark horse McGill. Just checked Wiki - He beat Brecel, Selby, and Carter, so he got there the hard way no doubt.

I don't mean to keep ragging on McGill, but I just can't rate him, despite him having patches of looking like a worldbeater if one only ever saw him while he was playing well.

Chalk McHugh

Rothko wrote: »

Gary Wilson was there last year

Did he? Goes to prove semi final losers really are forgotten. Now you say it i still don't remember.

Mysterypunter

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Did he? Goes to prove semi final losers really are forgotten. Now you say it i still don't remember.

Thought Dave Gilbert was OK, Wilson must have lost to Trump, Gilbert lost a close one to Higgins, I was supposed to be cutting the grass, ended about 7:00 on Saturday

Comparisons to Graeme Dott - didn't he get to two or three Crucible Finals. I think folk are being generous to McGill.

Chalk McHugh

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Thought Dave Gilbert was OK, Wilson must have lost to Trump, Gilbert lost a close one to Higgins, I was supposed to be cutting the grass, ended about 7:00 on Saturday

Of course yea i remember Gilbert in tears after losing. Just don't remember Wilson.

mewso

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I don't mean to keep ragging on McGill, but I just can't rate him, despite him having patches of looking like a worldbeater if one only ever saw him while he was playing well.

To be honest I've nothing but admiration for him and how he has fought his way this far. I don't find him all that interesting to watch as a player but his composure is fantastic and I hope he gets through here so I can have someone to wish well in the final if Selby gets past Ronnie.

All's I know is betting against McGill is a poor proposition - Wilson (-5.5 frames) at 6/5 long gone up in smoke

I'm only backing Ronnie IFF he gets to the final, and IFF it's against Wilson (still be price dependant though). 8/11 - 4/5 giving away about 2 1/2 frames would appeal perhaps. :pac:

Chalk McHugh

Brilliant stuff from McGill the last few frames. Some very courageous shots and nearly all going plum in the middle of the pocket.

MrKingsley

mewso wrote: »

To be honest I've nothing but admiration for him and how he has fought his way this far. I don't find him all that interesting to watch as a player but his composure is fantastic and I hope he gets through here so I can have someone to wish well in the final if Selby gets past Ronnie.

Couldn’t agree more.

I’d much rather root for a solid(If limited) player who is playing to the best of their capabilities rather than a “top quality” player who is only at 70-80%.

Mysterypunter

Deleted User wrote: »

Comparisons to Graeme Dott - didn't he get to two or three Crucible Finals. I think folk are being generous to McGill.

14 each now, so McGill might get to one, he was a quarter finalist on his debut, on the subject of Scottish players, I think Maguire, who had a decent year, is the most disappointing of the lot, looked to have all the ingredients, but never baked the cake

sligeach

Century number 2 of the tournament for McGill.

Chalk McHugh

Mysterypunter wrote: »

14 each now, so McGill might get to one, he was a quarter finalist on his debut, on the subject of Scottish players, I think Maguire, who had a decent year, is the most disappointing of the lot, looked to have all the ingredients, but never baked the cake

He was always missing one of the most vital ingrediants: Temperament!

Mysterypunter

Deleted User wrote: »

All's I know is betting against McGill is a poor proposition - Wilson (-5.5 frames) at 6/5 long gone up in smoke

I'm only backing Ronnie IFF he gets to the final, and IFF it's against Wilson (still be price dependant though). 8/11 - 4/5 giving away about 2 1/2 frames would appeal perhaps. :pac:

If McGill plays Ronnie it will be 1-7 v 4-1, and about 5.5 handicap. Why do punters accept such poor percentages😁

Mysterypunter

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

He was always missing one of the most vital ingrediants: Temperament!

Absolutely right, got flustered a bit too easily

Chalk McHugh

This is gone beyond a joke. They have a 15 minute interval to disect this match but after about one minute of praising McGill the BBC are now showing Higgins 147 again. The lads are in the studio why not make them work for their money and keep the viewers entertained, also?

waynescales1

Absolute quality from McGill, if you’re not enjoying this you shouldn’t be watching snooker.

Neeson

Maguire was wiping his shaft a lot last night and playing well. Might need to start wiping it again. Looks to be getting a bit sticky. He was stroking the balls well last night. He’s coming undone this afternoon.