2020 World Snooker Championship

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Chalk McHugh wrote: »

More shocking body language. What's he at talking to himself and shaking his head? It's a mini meltdown and it's not pretty.

I've come to believe he is an attention seeker.

Clareman

forumdedum wrote: »

I don't like the way Ronnie only competes if he feels like it. For years he has said safety/snookers bore him. What a load of bull.

That's why he "only" has 5 world titles. He's probably the most exciting player to watch when he's on form but he likes to be a completely natural player so doesn't like doing the work

raclle

He's a drama queen and its cringe to watch

walshb

forumdedum wrote: »

I've come to believe he is an attention seeker.

Incessant one..

Loves the attention and drama.

Completely contrived as well...

Decent skin, though, just always acting!!!

So Ken's gone from 9 hours to learn his line to 4 hours.... :rolleyes:

Arthur Daley

Ronnie in this tournament is like the football team at the top of the league who can still get results while not playing well.

Those teams often, maybe not always, end up as champions

AllForIt

Hendry certainly had something Ronnie doesn't have. Whatever it is, is isn't about pure snooker ability, it's more psychological.

Hendry is a very honest commentator, and he thinks Ronnie is still the best player he's ever seen.

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AllForIt wrote: »

Hendry certainly had something Ronnie doesn't have. Whatever it is, is isn't about pure snooker ability, it's more psychological.

Hendry is a very honest commentator, and he thinks Ronnie is still the best player he's ever seen.

Psychology is massive.

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Clareman wrote: »

That's why he "only" has 5 world titles. He's probably the most exciting player to watch when he's on form but he likes to be a completely natural player so doesn't like doing the work

Everything is 5% talent, 95% hard work.

extra-ordinary_

forumdedum wrote: »

I've come to believe he is an attention seeker.

Clareman wrote: »

That's why he "only" has 5 world titles. He's probably the most exciting player to watch when he's on form but he likes to be a completely natural player so doesn't like doing the work

Wilson is not playing well enough to be considered world champion, he's almost under constant pressure due to his lack of cueball control. Ronnie looks like he's bored out of his mind and battling with himself more than his opponent. Must be hard to have the motivation to keep playing when he's in a different league. He can be a total prick though with it.

kingtiger

delighted with that session, was afraid Ronnie was going to run away with the final

setup a great final day tomorrow

and what's with all the bitching about someone you don't know? you see a lad a few times a year on telly and think that you get the right to judge him, terrible carry on on this forum at the moment

Comic Book Guy

Comic Book Guy wrote: »

I reckon Wilson is going to go up a couple of levels from this afternoon (not hard I know) and win this session and make a real game of it tomorrow.

Can count himself hugely unlucky not to have taken more from that session but think he will be hugely confident tomorrow and why wouldn't he after Ronnie's performance tonight.

Ronnie better find that cue action very quickly.

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extra-ordinary_ wrote: »

Wilson is not playing well enough to be considered world champion, he's almost under constant pressure due to his lack of cueball control. Ronnie looks like he's bored out of his mind and battling with himself more than his opponent. Must be hard to have the motivation to keep playing when he's in a different league. He can be a total prick though with it.

Wilson looks good to me but I could be wrong. I'm not an expert.

Different league? What if Wilson wins this?

Alarm bell: Perhaps Ronnie is feeling the pressure because he implied Wilson is an amateur in that interview. That would be some story if Wilson were to win this.

extra-ordinary_

Comic Book Guy wrote: »

Ronnie better find that cue action very quickly.

Ronnie will find his cue action when he needs to, you saw him pull it out of his arse when he was 14-16 down to Selby.

AllForIt

forumdedum wrote: »

Psychology is massive.

Well yes. If you have 2 players with completely equal ability in every respect, then it's all about psychology in the end.

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AllForIt wrote: »

Well yes. If you have 2 players with completely equal ability in every respect, then it's all about psychology in the end.

Agree

Chalk McHugh

Ronnie was totally gone there tonight. He only won his last two frames due to ridiculous flukes. It's not far fetched to say Wilson really should have won that session 7-2 and be leading 9-8.

And i dont buy this 'Ronnie is bored' nonsense. He is in his swiss role. He's under huge pressure and every now and then when something goes wrong his reaction and body language shows you how much he cares. Probably cares too much about getting a 6th World Championship because as much as he plays down stats and records he is a keen student of the game and knows the magnitude of winning another title. Thats why he looks so under the cosh and his game is unravelling and his confidence is shot to pieces as a result.

extra-ordinary_

forumdedum wrote: »

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Alarm bell: Perhaps Ronnie is feeling the pressure because he implied Wilson is an amateur in that interview. That would be some story if Wilson were to win this.

He did similar against Selby in the semi-finals and I think Selby called it right in that Ronnie was deliberately belittling Selby lashing the balls all over the place every time Selby snookered him as if "go way with your ****e'. He did similar with Wilson in that frame earlier where Ronnie needed a few snookers, where he stayed on and cleared up more or less trying to send Wilson the message that he was only toying with him. He shows no respect to his opponent as it's all about him. Wilson really needs to up his game if he's to be proven a worthy champion.

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extra-ordinary_ wrote: »

He did similar against Selby in the semi-finals and I think Selby called it right in that Ronnie was deliberately belittling Selby lashing the balls all over the place every time Selby snookered him as if "go way with your ****e'. He did similar with Wilson in that frame earlier where Ronnie needed a few snookers, where he stayed on and cleared up more or less trying to send Wilson the message that he was only toying with him. He shows no respect to his opponent as it's all about him.

Fair enough. He was lucky Selby messed up the final frame clearance. If you leave it too late to come back . . .

Arthur Daley

Ronnie has a number of 'issues' and is a bit of a prick at times. No doubt about it.

I thought he was taking the pi55 again when he went on about his cue action after beating Willo, but I think we can see today that he is genuinely struggling for consistency. He has been the greatest I've seen. A really beautiful player to watch in full flow. So I cut him some slack.
He may have a point here after all.

zuutroy

I think I speak for all Ronnie fans when I say....thank Jaysus this tournament is over tomorrow one way or other!

Also...the only people talking sense on this thread are the ones that post on the snooker forum all year round.

Clareman

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Ronnie has a number of 'issues' and is a bit of a prick at times. No doubt about it.

I thought he was taking the pi55 again when he went on about his cue action after beating Willo, but I think we can see today that he is genuinely struggling for consistency. He has been the greatest I've seen. A really beautiful player to watch in full flow. So I cut him some slack.

He does seem to be struggling to deliver the cue straight when he's trying to get low on the ball especially when he's trying to add some power to the shot.

Clareman

zuutroy wrote: »

I think I speak for all Ronnie fans when I say....thank Jaysus this tournament is over tomorrow one way or other!

Also...the only people talking sense on this thread are the ones that post on the snooker forum all year round.

Sorry about that............

raclle

I don't buy into this cue action ****e. It can't be gone one frame and back again the next. Maybe Hendry has a point in what he said in commentary about Ronnie becoming almost obsessed with it. There's something not mentally right with him anyway

Chalk McHugh

Angles was right in saying Ronnie really could have lost that third session v Selby 8-0. I thought so too. He was hanging on by his fingernails. He really could/should have lost the last seven frames tonight.That is not down to lack of fight or bottle but due to his game being an absolute shambles and being the perfectionist he is it has his mind scrambled. The more i think of it if he wins this match tomorrow it will be close to or maybe his greatest win ever.

zuutroy

Clareman wrote: »

Sorry about that............

Maybe I was generalising too much, but there's an awful lot of noise

Clareman

raclle wrote: »

I don't buy into this cue action ****e. It can't be gone one frame and back again the next. Maybe Hendry has a point in what he said in commentary about Ronnie becoming almost obsessed with it. There's something not mentally right with him anyway

It's like the darts when someone can't hit a certain double, Ronnie just has this thing in his head about a few shots for some reason, to me it looks like when he's elevating his cue

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zuutroy wrote: »

I think I speak for all Ronnie fans when I say....thank Jaysus this tournament is over tomorrow one way or other!

Also...the only people talking sense on this thread are the ones that post on the snooker forum all year round.

Right I'll leave you all to it so.

extra-ordinary_

zuutroy wrote: »

I think I speak for all Ronnie fans when I say....thank Jaysus this tournament is over tomorrow one way or other!

Also...the only people talking sense on this thread are the ones that post on the snooker forum all year round.

hahaha

Chalk McHugh

zuutroy wrote: »

I think I speak for all Ronnie fans when I say....thank Jaysus this tournament is over tomorrow one way or other!

Also...the only people talking sense on this thread are the ones that post on the snooker forum all year round.

Yea you're right. It's been an emotional rollercoaster for the full two weeks watching Ronnie. I'm feeling a little burned out myself. My mind is a bit scrambled the last two days as im confident one minute and a while later i'm having doubts. I've really enjoyed the championship but i dont think i could take much more after tomorrow. Think i've only missed about 2 sessions on tv over the whole tournament.

zuutroy

Watched the qualifiers too. Looking forward to the month off now!

AllForIt

zuutroy wrote: »

I think I speak for all Ronnie fans when I say....thank Jaysus this tournament is over tomorrow one way or other!

Also...the only people talking sense on this thread are the ones that post on the snooker forum all year round.

There has been an unusually high amount of blow-ins this years I've noticed. And a thread in After Hours which is very unusual. Not that I think that's a bad thing. Least is shows there are ppl watching.

AllForIt

zuutroy wrote: »

Watched the qualifiers too. Looking forward to the month off now!

I opted not to watch the quals. As much as I love snooker a month of it is a beyond my attention span ability.

Chalk McHugh

zuutroy wrote: »

Watched the qualifiers too. Looking forward to the month off now!

Bloody hell i forgot about the qualifiers. I watched a lot of that. Remember poor Fergal going out to Wenbo. So that's a good three solid weeks of wall to wall snooker. Definately need a break from it (pardon the pun)

zuutroy

AllForIt wrote: »

There has been an unusually high amount of blow-ins this years I've noticed. And a thread in After Hours which is very unusual. Not that I think that's a bad thing. Least is shows there are ppl watching.

The more the better, but when it turns into the 'is Ronnie a prick?' thread it's a bit painful.

Chalk McHugh

This is the first World Championship thread i've posted on here and i've enjoyed the discussion, banter and debate. It's really enhanced the two weeks of the tournament and you almost forgot about the coronavirus for the whole whiile.

extra-ordinary_

zuutroy wrote: »

The more the better, but when it turns into the 'is Ronnie a prick?' thread it's a bit painful.

Ronnie is a phenomenon so people will have an opinion about him.

Say Your Number

Last years thread was only 89 pages, an absolute ghost town some days, I would say people working from home and Ronnie going on a run would be the factors in the increased interest this year, I left the thread to watch one of the frames this evening and it had grown by 3 pages at the end of the frame, pretty much unheard of even at the business end over the last few years.

ultrapercy

Ronnie seems to have a resentment towards the game. He reminds me of the song writer Nick Drake who became consumed by the world's lack of appreciation for his undoubted genius. He's one of the most naturally talented sports people in history, unfortunately from his point of view, it's for one of the most unrecognized sports. The psycologicall pressure is like no other sport and it leads to mental implosion. Ronnie could come out tomorrow and reel off 5 centuries but if it's like today I wouldn't see three frames as enough cushion. Wilson's time has come, if he can play solid tomorrow the title is his

gormdubhgorm

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

This is the first World Championship thread i've posted on here and i've enjoyed the discussion, banter and debate. It's really enhanced the two weeks of the tournament and you almost forgot about the coronavirus for the whole while.

Being great for either live reactions/catching up on bits missed. I have enjoyed the tournament I think it has being much better fare than the more popular sports at the moment. Constant drama. Many will remember bits of it in years to come.

raclle

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

This is the first World Championship thread i've posted on here and i've enjoyed the discussion, banter and debate..

Same!!!

I normally just lurk but Ronnie has gotten me so incensed with his interviews I decided to post.

I don't hate the guy but he's no role model for the sport

StupidLikeAFox

Comete blow in here but I've been hooked on this championship. When Ronnie is good he is unreal, when he is bad he is terrible. Its like he is brainwashed to play a beautiful game and any time he cannot or is not allowed play that he falls apart.

There is an element of "winning ugly" in every sport but it seems like that concept is offensive to Ronnie and something he doesn't want to stoop to.

TheHopeful

Can't believe how bad Ronnie was this evening! But yet he still only lost the session 5-4. Wilson should be kicking himself. Missed his numerous opportunities. That last frame was huge. 3 frames gives Ronnie plenty breathing space.

Millionaire only not

Time for Ronnie to retire the state of him ths evening . Side locks over grown gone grey not shaved ffs . Wilson has highlights in the hair well dressed making an effort so u know it might just pay off for him if Lady Luck decides to change over.

gormdubhgorm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Comete blow in here but I've been hooked on this championship. When Ronnie is good he is unreal, when he is bad he is terrible. Its like he is brainwashed to play a beautiful game and any time he cannot or is not allowed play that he falls apart.

There is an element of "winning ugly" in every sport but it seems like that concept is offensive to Ronnie and something he doesn't want to stoop to.

Great point, on many occasions Ronnie has mentioned how xyz player plays the game "the right way". Meaning open and attacking snooker.
Same auld guff is said in other sports GAA/Soccer. Always annoys me because there is no set way to play a game.

A fella like Ronnie who literally sees the picture of the table in his head, should easily be able to delve into long safety bouts and win. But frustration gets the better of him. True greats in any sport are those who adapt and change in my opinion. O'Sullivan had a brief phase where he went tactical working with Reardon in fairness. Was only fleeting.

Millionaire only not

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Time for Ronnie to retire the state of him ths evening . Side locks over grown gone grey not shaved ffs . Wilson has highlights in the hair well dressed making an effort so u know it might just pay off for him if Lady Luck decides to change over.

Thankfully this is the World Snooker Championship and not Sheffield's Next Top Model.

Millionaire only not

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Thankfully this is the World Snooker Championship and not Sheffield's Next Top Model.

Do u think Ronnie is actually with the program ths evening , he’s not Himself when did u ever see him throw himself on the table for missing a shot

Happy4all

As finals go the standard has been awful. Maybe some magic tomorrow

gormdubhgorm

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Do u think Ronnie is actually with the program ths evening , he’s not Himself when did u ever see him throw himself on the table for missing a shot

He has it in his head that his cue action is terrible, so he is frustrating himself (as usual). Because he is thinking about it so much ruins his natural flow. Still think he will win handy about 2 frames per each of Wilson's 1 until the end. Mainly because Wilson is not relaxed.

AllForIt

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Do u think Ronnie is actually with the program ths evening , he’s not Himself when did u ever see him throw himself on the table for missing a shot

That was a kick to be fair. Can't be 100% certain about that but he missed a short ball by miles; had to be a kick.