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Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

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    #1262
    Gonzo
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    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    I still feel like the models aren’t gasping the SSW. I woudnt take note of this too much yet.

    This swift push of mild Atlantic air right across Europe by 15th of January is also 2 weeks away so it could easily not verify as much as a cold spell that distance away.


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    #1263
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Trough has arrived and it is raining as I predicted.

    It was never going to be anything but rain (possibly sleet) in your location overnight. It's not the trough either btw.


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    #1264
    pad199207
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Trough has arrived and it is raining as I predicted.

    Well as long as it keeps the rain up there and brings it as snow down here later


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    #1265
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Gonzo wrote: »
    This swift push of mild Atlantic air right across Europe by 15th of January is also 2 weeks away so it could easily not verify as much as a cold spell that distance away.

    I wish I had such faith in the models 2 weeks out :P


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    #1266
    Kermit.de.frog
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    pad199207 wrote: »
    Well as long as it keeps the rain up there and brings it as snow down here later

    harmonieeur40-1-14-3.png?01-23

    Your area looks one of the favorite spots for some flakes actually.


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    #1267
    Nqp15hhu
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It was never going to be anything but rain (possibly sleet) in your location overnight. It's not the trough either btw.

    I am in a much better and prime location for snow than southern half of this island...


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    #1268
    pad199207
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    harmonieeur40-1-14-3.png?01-23

    Your area looks one of the favorite spots for some flakes actually.

    Kermit your one of a kind ;)


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    #1269
    Nqp15hhu
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    pad199207 wrote: »
    Well as long as it keeps the rain up there and brings it as snow down here later

    The freezing level on your locale will be 800 metres so I’m not sure how that is productive for snow. It’s far too deep a warm layer.


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    #1270
    Kermit.de.frog
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    pad199207 wrote: »
    Kermit your one of a kind ;)

    Depends on where the precipitation is of course! Hit and miss. We'll probably have a more wintry mix but south Leinster looks good otherwise for some light - moderate snow showers first thing in the morning.


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    #1271
    pistolpetes11
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    harmonieeur40-1-14-3.png?01-23

    Your area looks one of the favorite spots for some flakes actually.

    Let the white gold rain down upon us ;)


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    #1272
    pad199207
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Depends on where the precipitation is of course! Hit and miss. We'll probably have a more wintry mix but south Leinster looks good otherwise.

    Ah just a flurry will do me for now. Just a taste before hopefully the proper stuff comes in from the east fingers crossed soon ;)


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    #1273
    Nqp15hhu
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    Why are people winking?


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    #1274
    circadian
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    Lovely crisp evening in D9. Very calm and clear skies and the car has started freezing over completely.


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    #1275
    pistolpetes11
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Why are people winking?

    The Play on words......


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    #1276
    Pangea
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    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Is that picture from tonight?

    Sorry , no I think ten years ago, he hasn't changed much in fairness


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    #1277
    Cluedo Monopoly
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    Sharp frost in Galway tonight.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #1278
    Kermit.de.frog
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    pistolpetes11 wrote: »
    Let the white gold rain down upon us ;)

    Freezing white gold rain is another possibility of course.


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    #1279
    Gaoth Laidir
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    Freezing rain at Belfast Aldergrove.

    METAR EGAA 012320Z VRB03KT 9999 FZRA SCT031 BKN036 M01/M02 Q1020=


    I see the 528-dm line will be down as south as Madrid and the Med next week. Could be some nice snow in Madrid (650 m amsl) and even the Sierra Nevadas.

    ukmo_nat_fax_2021010112_120.png


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    #1280
    Gaoth Laidir
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    Airport warnings in effect.

    Moderate ground frost at Casement, weak at the others (Dublin, Cork, Shannon and Knock). Weak air frost at all.
    EIDW AD WRNG 01 VALID 011700/021100 FROST FBL GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
    EIME AD WRNG 01 VALID 011700/021100 FROST MOD GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
    EICK AD WRNG 01 VALID 012100/021000 FROST FBL GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
    EINN AD WRNG 01 VALID 011900/021000 FROST FBL GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
    EIKN AD WRNG 01 VALID 011700/020600 FROST FBL GND FCST=

    Only light rain showers in the TAFs, sleet at Belfast.


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    #1281
    Gaoth Laidir
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    The UKMO aviation chart for 06Z doesn't have any snow showers, except for on higher ground. Otherwise sleet showers on windward coasts and freezing fog over Ireland.


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    #1282
    highdef
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Trough has arrived and it is raining as I predicted.

    If it's raining at your location, thats to be expected given your proximity to an on shore breeze. But the trough is not due for another few hours.


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    #1283
    Nqp15hhu
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    The UKMO aviation chart for 06Z doesn't have any snow showers, except for on higher ground. Otherwise sleet showers on windward coasts and freezing fog over Ireland.

    Yes if the freezing level is 800 metres. It is next to impossible for sea level snow.


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    #1284
    highdef
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    I am in a much better and prime location for snow than southern half of this island...

    In general or at the moment? When you say Southern half, do mean South of a line from Galway to Dublin?


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    #1285
    Nqp15hhu
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    highdef wrote: »
    In general or at the moment? When you say Southern half, do mean South of a line from Galway to Dublin?

    Well in general. I have been reading the forum and have seen some saying they haven’t seen snow since 2018.

    We usually get a covering at least a few times each winter... and do very well in northernly flows.


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    #1286
    Gaoth Laidir
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Yes if the freezing level is 800 metres. It is next to impossible for sea level snow.

    For 06Z they have the freezing level 1000-2500 ft (330-750 m).

    Their ballooning profile for 09Z has the following conditions for Draperstown


    Altitude Wind Temp
    2000 ft | 36020 kt | -1
    1000 ft | 35015 kt | +1
    500 ft | 33014 kt | +2


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    #1287
    Gaoth Laidir
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Well in general. I have been reading the forum and have seen some saying they haven’t seen snow since 2018.

    We usually get a covering at least a few times each winter... and do very well in northernly flows.

    There's been a northerly flow all week and you haven't really had anything of note in your location.


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    #1288
    Nqp15hhu
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    There's been a northerly flow all week and you haven't really had anything of note in your location.

    Yes we did..


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    #1289
    Happy4all
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    A hardy frost in the east. Paths are lethal.


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    #1290
    munsterlegend
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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Yes we did..

    That’s a dusting man! I had more than that in Cork the other morning.


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    #1291
    Nqp15hhu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    For 06Z they have the freezing level 1000-2500 ft (330-750 m).

    Their ballooning profile for 09Z has the following conditions for Draperstown


    Altitude Wind Temp
    2000 ft | 36020 kt | -1
    1000 ft | 35015 kt | +1
    500 ft | 33014 kt | +2

    Where did you get this? I used to be able to see it.


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