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What will happen to Edward Snowden?

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  • 05-08-2020 4:13pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭


    He's been in Russia since 2013. Obama didn't pursue him during his administration and neither did Trump.

    Will he remain there for the rest of his life or will it end up like Assange being forcefully removed. Perhaps Russia will turn against him and hand him over to U.S authorities.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    He's been in Russia since 2013. Obama didn't pursue him during his administration and neither did Trump.

    Will he remain there for the rest of his life or will it end up like Assange being forcefully removed. Perhaps Russia will turn against him and hand him over to U.S authorities.




    Russia won't extradite him so I'd say he'll be there for the rest of his life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Russia won't extradite him so I'd say he'll be there for the rest of his life.
    Probably moved in to Philbys old apartment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    He will commit suicide eventually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Pardon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Pardon?

    Are you hard of hearing? I said he will commit suicide eventually.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    He worked for the NSA and CIA, both organs of the military industrial complex in the USA. He might be able to return to the USA maybe 10 to 20 years time when the people who he exposed are long out of power or dead like General Keith Alexander (retired) and there is nobody worth protecting. There is also the statue of limitations meaning any charges timeout.


    Inside the mind of NSA chief Gen Keith Alexander
    Glenn Greenwald
    But a perhaps even more disturbing and revealing vignette into the spy chief's mind comes from a new Foreign Policy article describing what the journal calls his "all-out, barely-legal drive to build the ultimate spy machine". The article describes how even his NSA peers see him as a "cowboy" willing to play fast and loose with legal limits in order to construct a system of ubiquitous surveillance. But the personality driving all of this - not just Alexander's but much of Washington's - is perhaps best captured by this one passage, highlighted by PBS' News Hour in a post entitled: "NSA director modeled war room after Star Trek's Enterprise". The room was christened as part of the "Information Dominance Center":

    source


    In the meantime, He married and is now settled in Russia.

    While Snowden feels justified in what he did six years ago, he told the Guardian he was reconciled to being in Russia for years to come and was planning for his future on that basis.

    He reveals he secretly married his partner, Lindsay Mills, two years ago in a Russian courthouse.

    While he would rather be in the US or somewhere like Germany, he is relaxed in Russia, now able to lead a more or less normal daily life. He is less fearful than when he first arrived in 2013, when he felt lonely, isolated and paranoid that he could be targeted in the streets by US agents seeking retribution.

    source

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Are you hard of hearing? I said he will commit suicide eventually.


    Can't see that happening at all, he's still emotionally well together, he's very intelligent and still engaging in debates globally. he's very well respected and supported, so I'd say he's good for some time, but things can change quickly in that game, the life of a whistle blower is extremely precarious


  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Captain Red Beard


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Can't see that happening at all, he's still emotionally well together, he's very intelligent and still engaging in debates globally. he's very well respected and supported, so I'd say he's good for some time, but things can change quickly in that game, the life of a whistle blower is extremely precarious

    He's living in Russia. People there have been known to shoot themselves in the back of the head. Twice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    He's living in Russia. People there have been known to shoot themselves in the back of the head. Twice.

    his life in russia seems to be okay at the moment, of course it could change unexpectedly, but he has reasonable freedom to move around, regularly leaving his accommodation to do normal daily activities, sometimes being recognized and approached, with little or no conflicts, more so curiosity than anything


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,466 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    He's living in Russia. People there have been known to shoot themselves in the back of the head. Twice.

    you seem to be suggesting that is somehow suspicious. people do commit suicide in weird ways. there was the guy in london a few years ago who committed suicide and then locked himself in a holdall afterwards.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    you seem to be suggesting that is somehow suspicious. people do commit suicide in weird ways. there was the guy in london a few years ago who committed suicide and then locked himself in a holdall afterwards.

    was that the suitcase chap?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,466 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    was that the suitcase chap?

    it was a holdall. he worked for GCHQ.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He'll continue to live out his life in Russia. He seems to have a relatively normal life now. His now wife moved there a few years back. Every 3 years his Russian residency gets reviewed but there seems to be no issues. The Russians seem happy to harbour an embarrassment to the Americans. Not a hope he'll be ever allowed to return to the States without lengthy trials. His crimes are debatable that even the most moderate thinks he should still stand trial even if what he did was for the greater good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,178 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    you seem to be suggesting that is somehow suspicious. people do commit suicide in weird ways. there was the guy in london a few years ago who committed suicide and then locked himself in a holdall afterwards.

    Add not forgetting Alexander Litvinenko, the ultimate "smart alec" suicide. Polonium-210 indeed!


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