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Lockdown for Kildare (Aug 8th-31st)

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    #1862
    [Deleted User]
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    bryaj wrote: »
    Any truth in rumours that protests/movement been organised to close all motorways into kildare from monday morning if restrictions in kildare not lifted ie if we are not allowed no one will be allowed in.

    Have the factories at the centre of these outbreaks been allowed to re-open?
    I heard the meat factories are due to reopen on Monday but that could be bull


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    #1863
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    RTÉ news stated the “rumour” / word on the ground, is restrictions for Laois and Offally will be lifted at weekend but not Kildare


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    #1864
    Tandey
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I heard the meat factories are due to reopen on Monday but that could be bull

    Sheepish prediction.


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    #1865
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    gral6 wrote: »
    Chesus....Kildare should be sealed off from the rest of the country! There is no ****ing control on people of Kildare going around this country! They are just spreading this deadly plague around !

    Totally ill-informed post


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    #1866
    wrangler
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    Tandey wrote: »
    Sheepish prediction.

    Kildare chilling is working today, farmers delivering sheep today


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    #1867
    Glebee
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    I could not give a flying fcuk anymore about restrictions. I going on my holidays next weeks. Goverment ministers are not even adhering to guidelines with this Oireachtas Golf Society event news breaking


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    #1868
    GhostyMcGhost
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    Idioteque wrote: »
    Have they shown a map of where all the cases are in Kildare? It would be good to know how widely spread in the county the cases are

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/


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    #1869
    smelly sock
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    Not a chance they can continue to discriminate against Kildare after the carry on of Callery last night.


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    #1870
    Idioteque
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    GhostyMcGhost wrote: »
    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    I'm aware of that site but when I looked last I thought it just showed cumulative cases and no ability to search by dates that would match the recent spikes. Unless there's a way to do that?

    Cumulative case totals doesn't really help with understanding the recent situation


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    #1871
    Pops_20
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    So, let me get this straight. The people of Kildare will most likely have to stay in lockdown for another 2 weeks +, while the like of Dara Calleary, Phil Hogan and Sean O' Rourke head off to Galway for a Golf dinner.

    The whole lot of them should resign.


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    #1872
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Pops_20 wrote: »
    So, let me get this straight. The people of Kildare will most likely have to stay in lockdown for another 2 weeks +, while the like of Dara Calleary, Phil Hogan and Sean O' Rourke head off to Galway for a Golf dinner.

    The whole lot of them should resign.


    Not a hope they extend Kildares lockdown after that. The Pubs and Hotels would lose their ****.

    The only way for Donnelly to impose an extension on kildare is for Callery to be sacked in the morning. That wont happen. If it does it'll Meeholes P45 too sooner rather than later.


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    #1873
    gral6
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Not a chance they can continue to discriminate against Kildare after the carry on of Callery last night.


    Just keep your head down and stay home. Rules are for the plebs only.


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    #1874
    _Kaiser_
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Not a hope they extend Kildares lockdown after that. The Pubs and Hotels would lose their ****.

    The only way for Donnelly to impose an extension on kildare is for Callery to be sacked in the morning. That wont happen. If it does it'll Meeholes P45 too sooner rather than later.

    Not necessarily. MM going would cause a split and bring down the Government. FG would probably do well because the Irish have very short memories - but probably not well enough to win a decisive majority leading to the same setup again with some individuals swapping seats.

    However the bigger worry for both FF and FG is SF capitalise on the farce of the last few months and run more candidates to put them in the driving seat. The long term consequences of this to the average taxpayer and employer would be immense, but not as disastrous as the fallout for FF/FG.

    The gravy train and merry go round between them every few years as we pretend there's a difference (as tonight's revelations have proved there's not with a who's who of current and ex party members, and their connected hangers-on are caught out having a grand old time for themselves) would come to an end from which they'd never recover unless they formally merged and even then it could be too late.

    So both sides will ignore the excesses of the other when it comes down to it for fear of losing the control, perks and status once and for all.


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    #1875
    Scoondal
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Not a chance they can continue to discriminate against Kildare after the carry on of Callery last night.
    It's simple. If you are in Kildare ... do not leave the county.
    So what if a minister is at an event (in Co. Galway) with 80 people in 2 rooms. People in Kildare should be locked down. The disease should not be allowed to spread to Dublin or other more important places.
    Why are Kildare people so selfish. We are all in this together.


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    #1876
    _Kaiser_
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    Scoondal wrote: »
    It's simple. If you are in Kildare ... do not leave the county.
    So what if a minister is at an event (in Co. Galway) with 80 people in 2 rooms. People in Kildare should be locked down. The disease should not be allowed to spread to Dublin or other more important places.
    Why are Kildare people so selfish. We are all in this together.

    The problem with text is it's often hard to determine if a post is serious or not?


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    #1877
    Scoondal
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    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    The problem with text is it's often hard to determine if a post is serious or not?

    I thought the "more important places" was the key. It was a piss take.
    We are all in this together !


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    #1878
    Patser
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    I've heard 'our Dominic Cummins' moment being mentioned a few times around the neighbourhood chat here. Seems apt.


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    #1879
    Aph2016
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    Scoondal wrote: »
    It's simple. If you are in Kildare ... do not leave the county.
    So what if a minister is at an event (in Co. Galway) with 80 people in 2 rooms. People in Kildare should be locked down. The disease should not be allowed to spread to Dublin or other more important places.
    Why are Kildare people so selfish. We are all in this together.

    Haha **** off


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    #1880
    Happy4all
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    LuasSimon wrote: »
    The law abiding will adhere to it but plenty of criminals and general scumbags will ignore it making it a waste of time .

    FF?


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    #1881
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    Glebee wrote: »
    I could not give a flying fcuk anymore about restrictions. I going on my holidays next weeks. Goverment ministers are not even adhering to guidelines with this Oireachtas Golf Society event news breaking

    As someone who’s cancelled their staycation for this week- Enjoy!!! I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same myself now if given the chance again

    The pigs at the trough have gone too far this time- never again will they lock down a county and if they do they’ll have to block off every road -the day of voluntary compliance is over


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    #1882
    Patser
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    As someone who’s cancelled their staycation for this week- Enjoy!!! I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same myself now if given the chance again

    The pigs at the trough have gone too far this time- never again will they lock down a county and if they do they’ll have to block off every road -the day of voluntary compliance is over

    Yep, cancelled my break for this week, but had provisionally booked a small break for next week (Mon to Weds) so as to get some time away with family before school is back. Almost certain to go this time regardless of what happens later. Even my Wife, one of most cautious people I know, was raging at TV last night and saying 'Don't care, we're going'


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    #1883
    Beltby
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Not a hope they extend Kildares lockdown after that. The Pubs and Hotels would lose their ****.

    The only way for Donnelly to impose an extension on kildare is for Callery to be sacked in the morning. That wont happen. If it does it'll Meeholes P45 too sooner rather than later.

    Well, Callery didn't get sacked. He resigned though. Same thing really.


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    #1884
    paddyisreal
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    Cant understand why there is not local politicians all over the media highlighting how ridiculous extending this would be.. schools reopening and meat factories are back open - there is no lockdown except for the unfortunate local businesses been punished for no apparent gain.


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    #1885
    Jimi H
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    So most of the leaks are suggesting that Kildare lockdown will continue. On numbers alone and if you were looking in from the outside, I think this would be seen as understandable. Meat factories open, schools re-opening, areas in Kildare nowhere near the outbreaks makes a mockery of it. Throw in the Calleary fiasco and mass confusion over the restrictions and the message is we most definitely are not in this together.


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    #1886
    Patser
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    Those, and the fact that last 2 weeks of restrictions haven't done anything to numbers, so what do they expect to happen differently this time.

    Either put in more, and more focused enforced restrictions with a clear plan if lowering numbers, with a lot more extra resources like testing everywhere etc. At least there's a plan, and Gardaí may enforce something

    Or just forget about it. You can't say, sure we'll just keep that going but now with added school trips and less fecks given, that'll work.


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    #1887
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    Jimi H wrote: »
    So most of the leaks are suggesting that Kildare lockdown will continue. On numbers alone and if you were looking in from the outside, I think this would be seen as understandable. Meat factories open, schools re-opening, areas in Kildare nowhere near the outbreaks makes a mockery of it. Throw in the Calleary fiasco and mass confusion over the restrictions and the message is we most definitely are not in this together.

    Kildare needs and deserves detailed maps of where the outbreaks have occurred and the reasons for those outbreaks where possible - numbers without context mean nothing. I’d happily see my own town locked down if I could see the clear explanation especially if it enabled other towns and villages to reopen - the lack of information won’t be tolerated anymore - and god help any politician or senator from Kildare who were at that golf gig in Clifden- don’t come back!


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    #1888
    Gaoth Laidir
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Kildare needs and deserves detailed maps of where the outbreaks have occurred and the reasons for those outbreaks where possible - numbers without context mean nothing. I’d happily see my own town locked down if I could see the clear explanation especially if it enabled other towns and villages to reopen - the lack of information won’t be tolerated anymore - and god help any politician or senator from Kildare who were at that golf gig in Clifden- don’t come back!

    Have a look back at last night's Primetime. There was a psychoanalyst on who said exactly that. Clearly explain the risk versus benefit of each measure introduced and at least the people will understand and be more likely to accept it. As it is it's a bit of a farce.


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    #1889
    Patser
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    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1296732880929017859

    Looks like they'll just keep it rolling, no thought put into it. 4th largest county by population to he set as an example.


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    #1890
    kennethsmyth
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    I wonder what would happen if all the business banded together and opened as one on Monday - government would have to take note and it would be difficult to stop. Obviously with all precautions for social distancing and masks etc.

    Or

    Block the motorways and let them know this is not on. Meat plants shut until full deep clean and fully tested employees back. Also all of the workers in meat plants to give address to HSA who compare and identify if too many are in one place.


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    #1891
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    kennethsmyth wrote: »
    I wonder what would happen if all the business banded together and opened as one on Monday - government would have to take note and it would be difficult to stop. Obviously with all precautions for social distancing and masks etc.

    Or

    Block the motorways and let them know this is not on. Meat plants shut until full deep clean and fully tested employees back. Also all of the workers in meat plants to give address to HSA who compare and identify if too many are in one place.

    I’m actually surprised the counties took this lockdown so passively - if there was a protest march organised I’d join it


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