Crimes that have stayed with you for years

Spanish Eyes

I just hope that anyone who stumbles across this thread understands that posters such as myself are not voyeurs or obsessed either. It is just a total bafflement as to why these people do this. But we don't often find out either.

DJIMI TRARORE

Fcuk me ,that japanesse case is horrendous

Bozo Skeleton

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The guy who killed his wife Siobhan with the vacuum cord. Brian Kearney.

I think there absolutely should be a list of these monsters when they are released. But GDPR... forgot that one.

I agree. About 3 or 4 years ago (maybe longer, time flies) Larry Murphy was pictured on Bride Street, central Dublin, with a story of him trying to book in to a hostel there. I work in a nearby pub, I was reading the story in work, from the Star or Sunday World or other. Thinking, imagine if that fúcker walked in. I wouldn't recognise it as him only his picture was in the paper. Gave me the creeps thinking about it!
He's particularly notorious. Suspected of involvement in a lot more than he was convicted of.
Also, I'd have refused to serve him!

Bozo Skeleton

After being reminded of Mark Nash and Larry Murphy, I remember I worked with this dude in 2000. He was there for a month or two before being fired. He was a highly strung nut job. Years later I saw an article saying he was wanted in Europe as a suspect in a murder. Instantly recognised him. Gonna google what became of this!

https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-help-in-search-for-dutch-murder-suspect-dj-morgandroid-493076-Jun2012/

Edit: He murdered a woman, was eventually caught, and got a 25 year sentence. Jesus.

https://m.independent.ie/life/my-summers-with-dutch-murderer-morgan-schreurs-30409081.html

bigar

Munstergirl854 wrote: »

I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioned Marc Dutroux.

I am from Belgium and it would not be an understatement saying that it shook the whole nation. It was made even worse when Dutroux escaped (but quickly caught again). It was greeted with disbelief and anger. How could a monster like that so easily escape? Ministers resigned, police inadequacies exposed causing reform of the justice system.

This crime was of such a magnitude that it still sends shivers down my spine thinking of it.

Another shocking crime were the Brabant Killers (Bende van Nijvel). A true crime spree between 1981 and '85 attributed to the same gang. They targeted shops and supermarkets with violent attacks and murdering people that got in the way. The gang was never caught.

Nokia6230i

One case that strikes me was raised online locally recently because an anti-TUSLA activist decided to rope this guy in to her gang & live-streamed him on YouTube over his TUSLA grievances.

Convicted of manslaughter in 2003/2004; sentenced to something like 12-14; only did 6-8 & was out by 30, 31 or so.

When you live in a small town these things reasonate; I still see him & his missus walking about & despite what he maintains, that he gets dogs abuse on the street, I've never heard them getting verbals at all.

The victims fam didn't know about the video; it's since been privatised/taken down; total misjudgment on the activists part; what transpired though was the victim'd been accused of rape of defendants mother/attempted rape; this features prominently in reports from the time; it was a way of getting him a manslaughter conviction through provocation perhaps?

My reading of it at the time was the victim was being trialed by media as much as defendant; there wasn't a shred of evidence produced in court but yet it's reported on prominently; the fam when they got wind of video're quite unhappy it went ahead & family & friends came out online to defend him & castigate the activist & killer.

akelly02

Denis nilsen aka DES

series just ended on virgin media there a few nights ago.

horrific.

Hangdogroad

That guy Murphy (not Larry) who raped and murdered a German woman who was visiting Newgrange in about 2000. Hed just recently gotten out for killing another woman when he was in his teens for which he inexplicably got manslaughter. Fellas like him, Nash and Dwyer should never beat out again.

xzanti

Chris Watts.

Murdered his pregnant wife and 2 toddler daughters. Dumped the kids in oil tanks and buried the wife close by.

Went off to work like nothing happened and googled song lyrics about killing your family.

Total nutjob.

Brian Hennessy.

Raped and strangled a woman on Christmas eve and then burned the house down with 2 little girls asleep in their beds.

This one always stayed with me. Absolute scumbag.

Be right back

xzanti wrote: »

Chris Watts.

Murdered his pregnant wife and 2 toddler daughters. Dumped the kids in oil tanks and buried the wife close by.

Went off to work like nothing happened and googled song lyrics about killing your family.

Total nutjob.

Brian Hennessy.

Raped and strangled a woman on Christmas eve and then burned the house down with 2 little girls asleep in their beds.

This one always stayed with me. Absolute scumbag.

I don't understand why Watts just didn't leave. Terrible crime. And the doll picture is very creepy too.

Man Vs ManUre

Most gang/anti social related murders probably not being mentioned here but 2 that happened in west Dublin in past 5 years have stood out to me -
The case where the father and 3 sons drove after another lad who had taken few shots at the house over a drugs debt, when they caught up with him they rammed it, hacked at him with various axe/machete type weapons, and then drove over him.
The case in Ronanstown, Halloween bonfire night, where Robbie Ellis was chased by a gang of feral thugs, when they caught up with him as he ran for his life into a residents house, and they stabbed him and he bled to death in the garden he had fled to. Nobody has been charged for this one.
Even if these 2 victims led a dodgy lifestyle they didn’t deserve to meet these ends.

xzanti

Be right back wrote: »

I don't understand why Watts just didn't leave. Terrible crime. And the doll picture is very creepy too.

Did they ever get to the bottom of why he sent that picture? Sha'nan didn't seem to react to it.

Be right back

xzanti wrote: »

Did they ever get to the bottom of why he sent that picture? Sha'nan didn't seem to react to it.

I think she saw it as a joke. They probably didn't work out why unless he said something about it. His family, particularly his mother were difficult.

dark crystal

Be right back wrote: »

I think she saw it as a joke. They probably didn't work out why unless he said something about it. His family, particularly his mother were difficult.

Doesn't Chris Watts' mother still bizarrely blame Shann'an for her own murder?

Be right back

dark crystal wrote: »

Doesn't Chris Watts' mother still bizarrely blame Shann'an for her own murder?

Possibly seeing as she saw nothing wrong giving food containing nuts to one of those kids who had a nut allergy.

xzanti

Be right back wrote: »

Possibly seeing as she saw nothing wrong giving food containing nuts to one of those kids who had a nut allergy.

They seemed to know he was having an affair.

From the dialogue between Chris and his father in the interrogation room, it would appear that he certainly knew.

Nitrogan

The Sinn Fein denied knowledge of incident.

They're a political party possibly going into government but there are decades of serious crimes they refuse to cooperate with police investigations, perhaps obstructing.

c.p.w.g.w

Nitrogan wrote: »

The Sinn Fein denied knowledge of incident.

They're a political party possibly going into government but there are decades of serious crimes they refuse to cooperate with police investigations, perhaps obstructing.

Same could be said of both FG & FF, just not as recent

Hangdogroad

The fairly recent case of Patricia O Connor. The horrific details of the murder and disposal of her body but bizarre as well the involvement of several family members. The daughter seems to be a right oddball and the granddaughter who dressed up pretending to be the dead woman seems to be on the spectrum judging by the photos of her laughing going into court.

Spanish Eyes

There are probably many murders that have gone under the radar now too here.

So many, difficult to remember them all. We only seem to remember the high profile cases, but each murder must be a tragedy for the families concerned.

There was a terrible incident in Cobh for example. Michael Greaney. He killed his wife and then himself.

And the awful Cavan incident, and the dad who killed his two sons having driven away. God it is depressing to think about the sadness surrounding all this.

Nokia6230i

Hangdogroad wrote: »

The fairly recent case of Patricia O Connor. The horrific details of the murder and disposal of her body but bizarre as well the involvement of several family members. The daughter seems to be a right oddball and the granddaughter who dressed up pretending to be the dead woman seems to be on the spectrum judging by the photos of her laughing going into court.

There's a book out, or due out soon on this case called Croweded House by (Newatalk & other media outlets) Courts Reporter Frank Greaney.

Spanish Eyes

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Any females involved in such atrocities? Sometimes men have to acknowledge their anger towards women. It is usually man on woman or on kids.

Has to be said.

But no doubt someone will come up with a woman, yes they are out there for sure, but honestly it is usually men. Don't know why but it is a fact.

You know from watching documentaries on Netflix but not just Netflix, a lot if not all of Psychopaths who were Male had abusive Mothers who Mentally abused and humiliated them as Boys.

Brings back the question, are Psychopaths born or raised ?

castletownman

xzanti wrote: »

They seemed to know he was having an affair.

From the dialogue between Chris and his father in the interrogation room, it would appear that he certainly knew.

The Netflix documentary was very good. It painted Shann'an as being somewhat intense and living vicariously through FB. I have seen young mothers in particular share EVERYTHING family related on that, but she took it to a whole new level. Obviously she didn't deserve to be murdered, and Watts should have done the honourable thing and just left.

But his cold, calculated nature creeped me out. Looked completely remorseless throughout. I had read about that case on here, but watching the documentary afterwards, it will stick with me forever. Insane levels of evil.

I'm late to the thread and have read some pages but not all, one of the most disturbing cases in my time were James Bulger, being a 10 year old myself at the time but I was still shocked that Boys around my own age could do something like this to a 2 year old, that will never leave my mind especially now having my own Boys aged nearly 5 and 6, I could not ever imagine anyone hurting my Boys in such an Evil way especially 10 year olds ffs.

There's also the case much closer to home here of Larry Murphy whom abducted a young Woman in Carlow Town one evening after She finished work and ended up in the wicklow hills to meet her death when 2 Lads Hunting illegally came upon the scene and Murphy fled and the rest is history but oh how lucky that poor woman was to survive and who bets Murphy killed Jo Jo dullard ? and maybe more ?

I watched the Netflix Documentary of Ted Bundy, Jesus almighty the extent of Human depravity and Man's inhumanity to Man never ceases to disgust me.

I have very little tolerance to violence and I don't like graphic violent movies and I also wonder how can People make such disturbing movies ?

I'm just thinking now of the time when the detectives came around to the houses where I lived including mine asking the usual questions in the Jo Jo case, I was of course only 15 and it was a but unnerving having detectives in the house asking us all questions of course they were nice to me asking just basic questions they had to ask everyone, I suppose they must have felt they were wasting such valuable time. We were in the next town a few Kms from Moone where Jo Jo made her last contact from the phone box.

begbysback

Jordan Peterson gave a very plausible explanation as to why men are more likely serial killers and such, think it’s down to the nature of agreeableness, where women are many many times more agreeable than men.

begbysback

begbysback wrote: »

Jordan Peterson gave a very plausible explanation as to why men are more likely serial killers and such, think it’s down to the nature of agreeableness, where women are many many times more agreeable than men.

It's mad though where in the case of many Male serial killers they had an Abusive Mother.

Society today still can't see Mental , emotional abuse by Women as being actual abuse which isn't really known until their Male Children reach adult hood and more difficult to prove perhaps after they have killed many Women while they think of the abuse from Mammy.

Some of the Worlds most notorious serial killers had been abused by their Mothers but as I said, mostly Male Violence towards Women is seen as abuse while abuse carried out by Mothers remains ignored.

begbysback

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's mad though where in the case of many Male serial killers they had an Abusive Mother.

Society today still can't see Mental , emotional abuse by Women as being actual abuse which isn't really known until their Male Children reach adult hood and more difficult to prove perhaps after they have killed many Women while they think of the abuse from Mammy.

I don’t think it’s down to specifically mammy or daddy, the key is abuse, I remember that doctor explaining it well in Ice Man, Richard Kuklinski, where a question arose how he ended up like that but his siblings didn’t. His take was a bit of both nature & nurture.

CivilCybil

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-found-not-guilty-of-murder-by-reason-of-insanity-1.835527

This one always stuck with me as I lived nearby at the time.
Man with mental illness seeks help numerous times in the leadup. Can hear voices and is a danger to himself and others. He was let down by the mental health system.

Then one night he sees a guy locked out of an apartment, sleeping in the hallway. Complete stranger to him but the voices say he's the devil. He stabbed him over 100 times with a garden shears.
I always remember thinking it could have been any of my friends or co-workers or housemates that man happened upon that night. Absolutely tragic and probably avoidable if the man who committed the act had the right support when he'd looked for it.

johnayo

"L'yin eyes" Sharon Collins case made the headlines back in the day. You couldn't
make it up.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/lying-eyes-freed-from-jail-after-four-years-but-told-she-cant-leave-country-26897053.html

johnayo

What misfortune this beautiful young lady, Rachael Kiely had when she was walking her dog in her local park.
This evil sick bastard ended her young life in the beautiful surroundings of Ballincollig Park.
Looking at his history since then,and some of the characters he has mixed it with, its hard to imagine he will live a long and happy life.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/victims-mother-first-to-meet-murderer-on-way-from-crime-26045187.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30897064.html

Mwengwe

The killing of Missy Bevers and the CCTV footage of her killer. (Unsolved)

In terms of sickening, sadistic torture, reading about the Hi Fi murders is very very grim. Read at your own risk etc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Fi_murders

The garden shears killing mentioned above always stayed with me. Always bothers me when someone is so close to safety, - also to stab someone over 100 times must take some time, can't help but wonder in those situations why no-one tries to intervene.

Man Vs ManUre

The murder of Jill Meagher in Melbourne in 2012 was very chilling. The cctv of the murderer/rapist approaching her and her trying to politely go about her way was very sad to see. Hard to believe it n a busy street and a not so late hour in the night/morning and so close to her home, a walk she probably did many times alone, that she was so unfortunate to cross paths with this scum who had committed serious crimes before and couldn’t help himself again that night.

Lollipops23

Michaela Harte definitely hit home at the time; I remember my boss telling myself and my colleague (we were both in our early 20s and in our first job after college) to stop reading about it, as he was getting worried about how upsetting we were finding it. There was just something so self-identifying about it; very normal Irish girl just running back up to her hotel room for some biscuits to have with her cuppa.

Another one was Karen Buckley- I was living in Toronto at the time and regularly had girls' nights out with a gang of other Irish ladies (all in our late 20s at that point). We all found it really upsetting as we could see how easily you wouldn't be missed for a day or two living so far from home. We implemented a 'got home safe' phone tree system for nights out after that.

Hangdogroad

johnayo wrote: »

What misfortune this beautiful young lady, Rachael Kiely had when she was walking her dog in her local park.
This evil sick bastard ended her young life in the beautiful surroundings of Ballincollig Park.
Looking at his history since then,and some of the characters he has mixed it with, its hard to imagine he will live a long and happy life.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/victims-mother-first-to-meet-murderer-on-way-from-crime-26045187.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30897064.html

That guy is pure evil. As with Graham Dwyer his family continue to stand by him.

Bob Gray

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Michaela Harte definitely hit home at the time; I remember my boss telling myself and my colleague (we were both in our early 20s and in our first job after college) to stop reading about it, as he was getting worried about how upsetting we were finding it. There was just something so self-identifying about it; very normal Irish girl just running back up to her hotel room for some biscuits to have with her cuppa

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This one has also stuck with me because my wife and I went to the same resort for our honeymoon in 2007, many a time she would tip back to the room while I'd stay out sunbathing. It nearly sickened my stomach when I read about it.
I share the same surname as her in real life (no relation though) so it stuck out when I read it first but then as the details came in, it was just so shocking and heartbreaking to say the very least.

Calypso Realm

There have been many over the years-James Bolger especially will always stand out as one of the most horrendous ever. The Hennessy case in Kilkenny-was abroad at the time and only heard about it much later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tia_Sharp

One that particularly resonates with me was the case of 12-year-old Tia Sharpe case, who failed to return to her grandmother's house where she was staying for the weekend- most probably because of the horrific circumstances surrounding it. Also in UK when it happened and the media coverage was huge, something which, I've no doubt at all, the perpetrator hadn't bargained for when he committed the crime, hoping when it all died down, he's just move the body and nobody would be any the wiser.

Police searches (three in all that week) of the small council-house revealed nothing. Media coverage was huge with journalists and police permanently on the scene. Her mother and stepfather had moved back to the house. Massive searches ensured by the locals, posters and candle-lit vigils all over the news. At one point the (step) grandfather gave a televised interview, where he denied having anything to do with her disappearance. I'd had my suspicions all along about him which were confirmed at that moment. Turns out the police did as well.I did wonder what he'd done with the body though, given the house had been searched on three occasions.

It was sweltering that summer-right in the middle of a heatwave. The grandmother reported a very bad smell in the house to the police, who organised another search of the premises. On this occasion, they found Tia's body in the attic, where Hazell (grandfather ) had hidden her a week earlier. Apparently the family never suspected him and it must have come as such a shock to think she was there all along, in one case right above the bedroom where they were sleeping. The grandmother had taken in this loser a few years earlier (heaven know why since he had a rap sheet as long as my arm, for drugs assaults, no job etc) and this is how he repaid them.

He pleaded not guilty (even at one point trying to pin it all on a neighbour given the lofts were conjoined and then passing it off as an accident) putting the family through more torture during the trial. He only changed his plea in order to prevent the true extent of his depravity from coming out during the trial.

Thankfully he got 38 years.

JustAThought

I don’t want a wave of horrifying images and cideo
links, but I lived in France a while back and every night on the news they had a sequence that showed and listed the names of the french journalists that were missing overseas or murdered in their line of work while reporting on or investigating crimes.

I cannot imagine more horrific than some of the monstorous crimes that have been committed on journalists - people going about their poirlg paid jobs and fragile careers. Thankfully the cage burnings, knofings and beheadings have been largely removed from the internet. Horrifying beyond belief. Any nobody held to account for them.

I see today another Islom-facist beheading and knifings/murders in a church in coastal nice. Imagine - you go to light a candle for
someone and your head is sawn off your body as you fight for your life against a screaming maniac with a meat cleaver.

Muahahaha

Bob Gray wrote: »

This one has also stuck with me because my wife and I went to the same resort for our honeymoon in 2007, many a time she would tip back to the room while I'd stay out sunbathing. It nearly sickened my stomach when I read about it.
I share the same surname as her in real life (no relation though) so it stuck out when I read it first but then as the details came in, it was just so shocking and heartbreaking to say the very least.

What has always got me about the Michaela Harte case was the pure madness of it and how it escalated from a burglary to a murder. Like I dont think for one minute the two employees had ever set out to commit a murder, they were in her hotel bedroom to steal money and jewellery. They got caught red handed when she walked in but instead of taking their punishment of getting fired from their jobs they go miles over the top and kill her instead.

It was just pure madness in a busy hotel that they went that far to cover up a burglary. Like how did they think this was going to turn out, that they would keep their jobs and everything would be fine? I just cant get over the madness of it all, it was so unnecessary. Then you throw the trial of the two employees into it and that turned out to be a complete circus with the local police completely messing up what should have been an easy conviction. It was awful stuff for the families, justice was denied by police incompetency.

TCDStudent1

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Michaela Harte definitely hit home at the time; I remember my boss telling myself and my colleague (we were both in our early 20s and in our first job after college) to stop reading about it, as he was getting worried about how upsetting we were finding it. There was just something so self-identifying about it; very normal Irish girl just running back up to her hotel room for some biscuits to have with her cuppa.

Another one was Karen Buckley- I was living in Toronto at the time and regularly had girls' nights out with a gang of other Irish ladies (all in our late 20s at that point). We all found it really upsetting as we could see how easily you wouldn't be missed for a day or two living so far from home. We implemented a 'got home safe' phone tree system for nights out after that.

Pretty sure her friend's reported her missing the night she went missing.

Edit: Just read details again, it was noon the following day when they reported it.

Halenvaneddie

Don’t know if it has been mentioned, but the Range Rover murders from 1995. Three fellas killed with shotguns at very close quarters

Nokia6230i

IncelCuckold wrote: »

It is the local things that stay with you even if you weren't born at the time for example the boy my age who was killed by car in 90s aged 6 outside my church and the young IRA men from my townland who were killed by their own bomb 20 years before I was born. That stuff is engraved in the fibres of the parish.

In regards to worldwide famous crimes I would say the Virginia Tech killing, I remember how the news kept saying how quiet he was and this man reminded me of myself in many ways so. I also received taunts at school with people saying I was going to shoot the school, this is the treatment I had to put up with.

Jayney Lad, my 1st Cousins Boyfriend & Her're 2 Emos with serious issues but both live normally in the community (relatively speaking); I've 'em down as most likely to arm themselves with AKs in each hand someday & go walking down our village shooting at anything & everybody that moves; it is something I'm legit concern'd by albeit it may not manifest itself in such a horific scenario.

However he did pubicly post that he'd shoot up Maynooth Campus in Springtime 2018; think he posted this in April as 3rd Level Students were studying for their finals etc.

Now he was "spoken to" on the doorstep & logistically he'd've been half the day getting there with public transport & I don't know if he has access to weapons; hope not!

But you can imagine how scared students who read his threat were; I think there'd been yet another High School shooting in USA fairly recent to that threat like.

He's well known for his aggression too & lashes out repeatedly; rarely suffering any legal consequences but they'd be a Bonnie & Clyde & I wish she'd dump his sorry ass!

Nokia6230i

johnayo wrote: »

What misfortune this beautiful young lady, Rachael Kiely had when she was walking her dog in her local park.
This evil sick bastard ended her young life in the beautiful surroundings of Ballincollig Park.
Looking at his history since then,and some of the characters he has mixed it with, its hard to imagine he will live a long and happy life.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/victims-mother-first-to-meet-murderer-on-way-from-crime-26045187.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30897064.html

Yikes; reading his subsequent crimes; the amount of suspended portions of various sentences despite many occurring when out on bail isn't helping; that's as much a general comment on Irish judicial system as specific to this mind.

Bit mad it was manslaughter & not murder in the end though.

Know a lad where I live who got manslaughter; he used rape of his Mam as provocation & no alternative was put forward by prosecution; otherwise I think it'd've been murder.

screamer

Bob Gray wrote: »

This one has also stuck with me because my wife and I went to the same resort for our honeymoon in 2007, many a time she would tip back to the room while I'd stay out sunbathing. It nearly sickened my stomach when I read about it.
I share the same surname as her in real life (no relation though) so it stuck out when I read it first but then as the details came in, it was just so shocking and heartbreaking to say the very least.

Yep, we also honeymooned there in 2007. I remember specifically one day I went back to the room to get something and I wasn’t in the door and here was my husband behind me. I asked him what was wrong and he said he just didn’t want me back there on my own. At the time I thought he was a bit cracked, but when Michaela was murdered I could feel the hair stand up on the back of my neck. It is, really a tropical paradise and to think of what happened to her and no justice, sickening. Poor girl.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

SineadSpears wrote: »

I've said it in this thread before, I heard about this girl here on boards, & it is by far the saddest thing I've ever read. Breaks my heart for what that young girl had been put through

It really is one that stays with you, isn’t it?

JimToken

The murder-suicide in the north where the father set fire to the home.
There was a young girl and other younger siblings

The_Kew_Tour

The Warrington Bomb.

OMM 0000

A little girl in France was picked up outside her school by two people claiming to be her parents friends. They are going to drive her home. She was found dead in a well a few months later.

That's all the details I know, but what stuck with me is imagining the moment she sees the car driving past her home, and she realises they're not bringing her home, and the fear grows and grows as she understands she is in danger and completely powerless, and eventually it ends in death.

Horrifying.

OMM 0000

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Yikes; reading his subsequent crimes; the amount of suspended portions of various sentences despite many occurring when out on bail isn't helping; that's as much a general comment on Irish judicial system as specific to this mind.

Bit mad it was manslaughter & not murder in the end though.

Know a lad where I live who got manslaughter; he used rape of his Mam as provocation & no alternative was put forward by prosecution; otherwise I think it'd've been murder.

He should just be killed.

A group of men should take him up the mountains and kill him.

Society would be better off, even knowing such a vengeance killing happened.

The Mighty Quinn

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It really is one that stays with you, isn’t it?

I'd never heard of it before this thread and your post, but I'll never forget it.