2020-21 UEFA Champions League

kksaints

Enjoyable watch between Maccabi and Salzburg. Maccabi did well for a team missing 9 players but Salzburg should have scored more than two goals. Maccabi also had some other good chances as Salzburg's defending was surprisingly lax at times. There was 20 shots on target in the match according to the stats on Uefa.com.

kksaints

El Sueño wrote: »

I can just imagine if Giles was still on RTE

"Well I haven't seen much of them Bill"

Ugh, that was one of the worse things about Giles. He was excellent at discussing and analyzing what happened during a match but before a match unless it was one of the big English teams or Ireland he was pointless.

Instead we had Kenny Cunningham and Alan Cawley who did research before the match on the two teams and were well able to discuss and highlight the key players on both sides. Offered an informed discussion on the Red Bull model between Leipzig, Salzburg and Liefering (except for Alan saying that the original Austria Salzburg fans would be happy with how things have gone since the takeover, lets just say that wouldn't go down to well with the Austria Salzburg fans). The Half-time and Full-time analysis was also very enjoyable. I'd be a fan of both of them getting more matches.

citytillidie

Play-off Round 1st leg Results
Champions Path
Maccabi Tel-Aviv (ISR) 1 V 2 Salzburg (AUT)
Slavia Praha (CZE) 0 V 0 Midtjylland (DEN)
Olympiacos (GRE) 2 V 0 Omonia (CYP)
Molde (NOR) 3 V 3 Ferencváros (HUN)

League Path
Krasnodar (RUS) 2 V 1 PAOK (GRE)
Gent (BEL) 1 V 2 Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)

citytillidie

Play-off Round 2nd legs
Tuesday 29th September
Champions Path
Omonia (CYP) V Olympiacos (GRE) (Agg 0-2) - Live on BT Sport 2
Ferencváros (HUN) V Molde (NOR) (Agg 3-3) - Live on BT Sport ESPN

League Path
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) V Gent (BEL) (Agg 2-1) - Live on BT Sport 3

Wednesday 30th September
Champions Path
Salzburg (AUT) V Maccabi Tel-Aviv (ISR) (Agg 2-1) - Live on BT Sport 3
Midtjylland (DEN) V Slavia Praha (CZE) (Agg 0-0) - Live on BT Sport 2

League Path
PAOK (GRE) V Krasnodar (RUS) (Agg 1-2) - Live on BT Sport Extra

kksaints

Kyiv vs Gent is live on RTE 2 tomorrow.

TheRiverman

Kenny Cunningham is hard on the ears, discussing deliberate and non deliberate handball.

Harry Palmr

Whats the formation this season, is it single match for every round?

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Whats the formation this season, is it single match for every round?

No today's games are the 2nd leg. From first leg:

Slavia Prague 0 - 0 FC Midtjylland
Krasnodar 2 - 1 PAOK Salonika
Maccabi Tel Aviv 1 - 2 Red Bull Salzburg

citytillidie

Play-off Round 2nd leg Results
Champions Path
Omonia (CYP) 0 V 0 Olympiacos (GRE) (Agg 0-2)
Ferencváros (HUN) 0 V 0 Molde (NOR) (Agg 3-3)
Salzburg (AUT) 3 V 1 Maccabi Tel-Aviv (ISR) (Agg 5-2)
Midtjylland (DEN) 4 V 1 Slavia Praha (CZE) (Agg 4-1)

League Path
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) 3 V 0 Gent (BEL) (Agg 5-1)
PAOK (GRE) 1 V 2 Krasnodar (RUS) (Agg 2-4)

Pot 1
Bayern (GER)
Sevilla (ESP)
Real Madrid (ESP)
Liverpool (ENG)
Juventus (ITA)
Paris (FRA)
Zenit (RUS)
Porto (POR)

Pot 2
Barcelona (ESP)
Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Manchester City (ENG)
Manchester United (ENG)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Dortmund (GER)
Chelsea (ENG)
Ajax (NED)

Pot 3
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Salzburg (AUT)
RB Leipzig (GER)
Inter (ITA)
Olympiacos (GRE)
Lazio (ITA)
Krasnodar (RUS)
Atalanta (ITA)

Pot 4
Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)
Marseille (FRA)
Club Brugge (BEL)
Mönchengladbach (GER)
İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR)
Midtjylland (DEN)
Rennes (FRA)
Ferencváros (HUN)

Harry Palmr

At least that awkward Salzburg (AUT),RB Leipzig (GER) draw is avoided!

Fitz*

Group stage draw is live here https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/2021/2001252/

jacool

Predicting Real Madrid, Man Utd., Inter, Rennes

Utopia Parkway

Thought it would be a shorter draw this year with Covid but no UEFA are still somehow dragging the arse out of it.

citytillidie

jacool wrote: »

Predicting Real Madrid, Man Utd., Inter, Rennes

United can not get Real Madrid now they have to go into group E to H

CalamariFritti

Gladbach for the win :pac:

Degag

citytillidie wrote: »

United can not get Real Madrid now they have to go into post E to H

Why not? Isn’t it 2 english teams in A-D and 2 in E-H?

Degag

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Thought it would be a shorter draw this year with Covid but no UEFA are still somehow dragging the arse out of it.

Torturous stuff alright

citytillidie

So far

Group A
Bayern (GER)
Atlético de Madrid (ESP)

Group B
Real Madrid (ESP)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)

Group C
Porto (POR)
Manchester City (ENG)

Group D
Liverpool (ENG)
Ajax (NED)

Group E
Sevilla (ESP)
Chelsea (ENG)

Group F
Zenit (RUS)
Dortmund (GER)

Group G
Juventus (ITA)
Barcelona (ESP)

Group H
Paris (FRA)
Manchester United (ENG)

martingriff

Degag wrote: »

Why not? Isn’t it 2 english teams in A-D and 2 in E-H?

To do with the days that teams play in. Like as Real Madrid games are Tuesday Barcelona can only be in groups for Wednesday games

Easier way to say is teams are tv paired in there country, so they play alternative days

Agent Coulson

Ole is at the wheel again at PSG.

Shanotheslayer

Messi V Ronaldo. One for the road.

citytillidie

Degag wrote: »

Why not? Isn’t it 2 english teams in A-D and 2 in E-H?

Liverpool and United are paired for TV so once Liverpool went into Group D United had to go into the other side of the draw

Which clubs are paired?
To ensure that paired clubs from the same country play on separate days where possible, the eight groups will be distinguished by colour: Groups A to D will be red and Groups E to H will be blue. When a paired club is drawn, for example, in one of the red groups (A, B, C or D), the other paired club – once it has been drawn – will automatically be assigned to one of the four blue groups (E, F, G or H). The pairings are as follows:

A Bayern & Dortmund
B Sevilla & Atlético de Madrid
C Real Madrid & Barcelona
D Liverpool & Man. United
E Juventus & Inter
F Paris & Marseille
G Zenit & Lokomotiv
H Man. City & Chelsea
I Shakhtar & Dynamo Kyiv
J RB Leipzig & Mönchengladbach
K Lazio & Atalanta

citytillidie

Group A
Bayern (GER)
Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Salzburg (AUT)

Group B
Real Madrid (ESP)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Inter (ITA)

Group C
Porto (POR)
Manchester City (ENG)
Olympiacos (GRE)

Group D
Liverpool (ENG)
Ajax (NED)
Atalanta (ITA)

Group E
Sevilla (ESP)
Chelsea (ENG)
Krasnodar (RUS)

Group F
Zenit (RUS)
Dortmund (GER)
Lazio (ITA)

Group G
Juventus (ITA)
Barcelona (ESP)
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)

Group H
Paris (FRA)
Manchester United (ENG)
RB Leipzig (GER)

TitianGerm

Chelsea and City with very favourable draws so far. Liverpool with though enough ties. United will definitely be in for a fight to qualify.

Harry Palmr

There's at least two "Groups of Death" there.

Shanotheslayer

TitianGerm wrote: »

Chelsea and City with very favourable draws so far. Liverpool with though enough ties. United will definitely be in for a fight to qualify.

Really think that Liverpool draw favours them. Atalanta and Ajax both attacking sides from what I recall can see Liverpool just pick them apart but definitely not as easy as it could have been.

xtal191

Liverpool, City and Chelsea should all qualify from those groups

TitianGerm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Really think that Liverpool draw favours them. Atalanta and Ajax both attacking sides from what I recall can see Liverpool just pick them part but definitely not as easy as it could have been.

I just meant they should be tough games but Liverpool should beat them but you never know. Both Ajax and Atalanta have had good CL runs lately.

Johner

TitianGerm wrote: »

I just meant they should be tough games but Liverpool should beat them but you never know. Both Ajax and Atalanta have had good CL runs lately.

Think Atalanta might be a tougher game than Ajax, don’t think Ajax are that great this season, lost a few key players as well.

Harry Palmr

Marseille with Porto, Man City and Olympiakos. They'll probably get 15 points from that lot unless Pep goes quite mad.

Hulk Hands

All the football hipsters who despised the evil of PSG and Red Bull last season will surely be supporting a United squad with 7 academy graduates? Surely

y0ssar1an22

Johner wrote: »

Think Atalanta might be a tougher game than Ajax, don’t think Ajax are that great this season, lost a few key players as well.

those ajax and atalanta games vs liverpool should be crackers! looking forward to them

citytillidie

Group Stage Draw
Group A
Bayern (GER)
Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Salzburg (AUT)
Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)

Group B
Real Madrid (ESP)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Inter (ITA)
Mönchengladbach (GER)

Group C
Porto (POR)
Manchester City (ENG)
Olympiacos (GRE)
Marseille (FRA)

Group D
Liverpool (ENG)
Ajax (NED)
Atalanta (ITA)
Midtjylland (DEN)

Group E
Sevilla (ESP)
Chelsea (ENG)
Krasnodar (RUS)
Rennes (FRA)

Group F
Zenit (RUS)
Dortmund (GER)
Lazio (ITA)
Club Brugge (BEL)

Group G
Juventus (ITA)
Barcelona (ESP)
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Ferencváros (HUN)

Group H
Paris (FRA)
Manchester United (ENG)
RB Leipzig (GER)
İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR)

Mr.Nice Guy

Who I'd fancy to qualify:

Group A: Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, Salzburg, Lokomotiv Moscow.
Group B: Real Madrid, Shakhtar Donetsk, Inter, Monchengladbach.
Group C: Porto, Manchester City, Olympiakos, Marseille.
Group Liverpool, Ajax, Atalanta, Midtjylland.
Group E: Sevilla, Chelsea, Krasnodar, Rennes.
Group F: Zenit, Dortmund, Lazio, Club Brugge.
Group G: Juventus, Barcelona, Dynamo Kyiv, Ferencvaros.
Group H: PSG, Manchester United, RB Leipzig, Istanbul Basaksehir.

I wouldn't anticipate too many surprises. I think United have got a tricky group but Leipzig without Werner should lack an edge as they did in the knockout rounds a few weeks ago. I think Group C is the hardest one to call. I expect City to top it but reckon it could be a tight battle as to who joins them. AVB going back to Porto will be fun. Disappointed Rennes got a tough draw as they've been quietly assembling a good squad, but can't see them qualifying ahead of Sevilla and Chelsea. Mendy will enjoy going back there. Think Liverpool will top their group, Ajax and Atalanta should have a good tussle for second place. Ronaldo and Messi will be box office.

kksaints

Group A
Bayern and Athletico should go through although it might be tighter for Athletico. Salzburg have lost a good few of the big players from last year and while they have talented replacements they probably won't be up to the level necessary to qualify for the next round. Lokomotiva did ok last year in the group stage but lost to Athletico twice and I can't see that changing this season.
Group B
Real should go through in 1st but the second spot could be a tight battle. It should be Inter but they have a habit of messing up the CL group stages. They did beat Shakhter 5-0 in the Europa League in August so they should be stronger, Monchengladbach are no mugs though and it's hard to have a massive amount of faith in Inter.
Group C
City always seem to get comfortable enough group stage draws and this wouldn't appear to be an exception. Interesting battle for second though with all teams should be of a similarish level although Porto might be strong enough to claim second.
Group D
Could be some spectacular matches in this group. Liverpool should finish 1st and their matches against Atalanta will be fantastic to watch. Ajax have lost more players this season and Atalanta have strengthened so I feel Atalanta should finish second. Midtjylland will be the minnows of the group.
Group E
Sevilla and Chelsea should qualify comfortably. The lower French and Russian qualifiers tend to be weak sides for this level and it's unlikely they'll trouble the big two in the group.
Group F
Tricky one. Dortmund should be strong enough to finish 1st but the second qualifying spot is definitely up for grabs. Lazio did extremely well for a time last year in Serie A but their form fell off a cliff towards the end of the season and their Europa League form was awful, failing to qualify from a weak group. They also don't have a massive amount of depth to their squad. Zenit have some interesting players but their own recent European form hasn't been inspiring. Keep an eye out for Azmoun an Iranian international, he's scored a fair amount of goals for them and looks talented. Brugge drew against Madrid last season and finished third in their group, so won't be push overs either. I'd guess that Lazio should finish 2nd but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.
Group G
The Juventus vs Barcelona matches should be fun and will decide the group winner. Kyiv and Ferencvaros are way off the level of their level.
Group H
Not the easiest draw for United. PSG would be stronger than them and Leipzig despite losing Werner are a strong side. Basaksehir would be weaker than the other three but they did well in the Europa League last season so would be unwise to take lightly. PSG should finish first and United if they play to their best should finish second but they can't slip up or Leipzig will take advantage.

citytillidie

Match Day One
Tuesday 20th October
17:55 Kick-offs
Group F
Zenit (RUS) V Club Brugge (BEL) - Live On BT Sport ESPN

Group G
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) V Juventus (ITA) - Live On BT Sport 1

20:00 Kick-offs
Group E
Chelsea (ENG) V Sevilla (ESP) - Live On BT Sport 3 / Virgin Media Two
Rennes (FRA) V Krasnodar (RUS) - Live On BT Sport Extra 4

Group F
Lazio (ITA) V Dortmund (GER) - Live On BT Sport Extra 2

Group G
Barcelona (ESP) V Ferencváros (HUN) - Live On BT Sport ESPN

Group H
Paris (FRA) V Manchester United (ENG) - Live On BT Sport 2 / RTE 2
RB Leipzig (GER) V İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR) - Live On BT Sport Extra 3

Wednesday 21st October
17:55 Kick-offs
Group A
Salzburg (AUT) V Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) - Live On BT Sport ESPN

Group B
Real Madrid (ESP) V Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) - Live On BT Sport 1

20:00 Kick-offs
Group A
Bayern (GER) V Atlético de Madrid (ESP) - Live On BT Sport ESPN

Group B
Inter (ITA) V Mönchengladbach (GER) - Live On BT Sport Extra 2

Group C
Manchester City (ENG) V Porto (POR) - Live On BT Sport 3
Olympiacos (GRE) V Marseille (FRA) - Live On BT Sport Extra 4

Group D
Ajax (NED) V Liverpool (ENG) - Live On BT Sport 2 / Virgin Media Two
Midtjylland (DEN) V Atalanta (ITA) - Live On BT Sport Extra 3

Agent Coulson

20k fans at the Zenit game.

Mr.Nice Guy

Don't find Juve exciting to watch without Ronaldo. Morata in attack doesn't help. Maybe Chiesa can do something special.

Dzyuba and Azmoun are usually worth a watch for Zenit.

Agent Coulson

The Juve jersey is a bit of a Jackson Pollock

Mr.Nice Guy

Zenit disappointing so far. Lovren with a header from a corner about as close as they came. Brugge had the better of it and Vanaken looks a good threat from midfield. He's come the closest to scoring.

Mr.Nice Guy

Morata scores for Juve. Terrible start to the half for Kiev.

Just seen the United line-up. I fear a drubbing tonight. Surprised Mendy made it for Chelsea.

Brugge have taken the lead. Dennis with the goal.

Agent Coulson

Screamer from Lovren

Mr.Nice Guy

Zenit equaliser. Lovren with a belter of a strike that comes back off the post against the keeper and goes in. Good game, this half. Could go either way.

Morata puts the Juve result to bed with a second.

Mr.Nice Guy

Lovely passing move from Brugge to win it at the death. De Ketelaere with the goal.

Big result for them.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

Lovely passing move from Brugge to win it at the death. De Ketelaere with the goal.

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

Big result for them.

Poor defending from Zenit for both goals. Some strike from Lovren

martyos121

Haha what is that United kit? If the tablecloth kit from a few seasons ago was a statement of intent that they’d finish top of the table, does this pedestrian crossing kit indicate they expect to be walked all over? :pac:

sligeach

That Man United black/white zebra kit is absolutely disgusting.

sligeach

PSG should be 1-0 up. Point blank from 3 yards out, anywhere but straight at De Gea and it would be.

Mr.Nice Guy

Nice control and finish by Angelino.

PsychoPete

Jorginho is living a bit dangerously, needs to be careful of picking up another yellow