Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

dbas

Don Logan wrote: »

If he wins against Canelo expect him to bring up Kinahan in one way or another, I’d bet my last testicle on it.

Double or quits?

Davetherave12

Eyes1 wrote: »

Can you imagine.

As you say, he'd never put himself in a position to have to answer to the money trail.

Let’s just play devils advocate - what happens if he can explain the money trail?

A 10 year Spanish investigation that cost millions into him, came back with all charges dropped - they will have asked him where the money came from to start MTK and whatever answer he gave must have been good enough that as they could not legally prove it otherwise

Eyes1

Davetherave12 wrote: »

Let’s just play devils advocate - what happens if he can explain the money trail?

A 10 year Spanish investigation that cost millions into him, came back with all charges dropped - they will have asked him where the money came from to start MTK and whatever answer he gave must have been good enough that as they could not legally prove it otherwise

I agree with you and I’d be all ears.

I can’t guarantee the sun will come up tomorrow but I’d take a good punt it will.

Pretty much the same when we all ‘know’ where his money has come from.

Eyes1

Also Spain is highly corrupt especially around the Marbella region.

Not sure he’d of got so lucky in Ireland, the uk or many other places IMO.

PLATOBONG

I think DK will eventually have to face the music. The Gardai are being strategic here. If you follow 'the whistleblowers' page and Id say everyone on here does / there is an interesting entry today @ about 2 hours ago. said by the head of the organised crime division here.
Its not only Dk , its the South Americans, the Mexicans, the Africans, the Easterern Europeans, the Turks, the Pakistanis, the Afhgans and many more.

Don Logan

dbas wrote: »

Double or quits?

You monster

bigsuge1

sucioguapo wrote: »

Mad how these things happen , was only thinking i was in the same room as gerry and dk before (national stadium 2009) was sitting beside gerry and his youngfella.. and then it all pans out line this

Always wondered how close all involved were at one stage. Seems they must all know each other very well and not just distantly through Gary for example.

bigsuge1

bigsuge1 wrote: »

Always wondered how close all involved were at one stage. Seems they must all know each other very well and not just distantly through Gary for example.

ye youd wonder, stadium is small enough bt youd always see the same kind of crowd anytime u went... gerry was a gent , had no interaction with dk but also met katie and pete taylor that night.. katie was v friendly and pete was sound out too

Ash.J.Williams

Eyes1 wrote: »

Not sure about that. She'd cream her knickers for that interview.

It was never gonna happen.

I think she has played him, he's looking very silly in the guardian today

benny79

She got another story anyway out of it.

Ash.J.Williams

DK sent his best man to sort out his media image

Eyes1

benny79 wrote: »

She got another story anyway out of it.

Flogging a dead horse at this point.

MickyPearse

Its very embarrassing for boxing that they are basically saying they need DK's drug money to survive.

It was always a working class sport and I can understand young fellas following the money but the promoters/managers and millionaire fighters like Tyson Fury have no excuses.

Davetherave12

Eyes1 wrote: »

Also Spain is highly corrupt especially around the Marbella region.

Not sure he’d of got so lucky in Ireland, the uk or many other places IMO.

If Spain is highly corrupt - like posters here are suggesting - Then why did they not just find a way to put DK in jail and then keep the £500 million in assests they took off him and use it for there own purposes?

Rows Grower

Davetherave12 wrote: »

If Spain is highly corrupt - like posters here are suggesting - Then why did they not just find a way to put DK in jail and then keep the £500 million in assests they took off him and use it for there own purposes?

Maybe because that would be a tad more difficult than sticking a kilo of seized drugs up your jumper.

Davetherave12

Rows Grower wrote: »

Maybe because that would be a tad more difficult than sticking a kilo of seized drugs up your jumper.

Surely not much more difficult - there the most corrupt police force in Europe after all right?
The most corrupt police force in Europe seized over £500 million of someone they had charged and investigated for 10 years - they then robbed a few kilo of drugs and gave the rest back to them......is that the general story?

Ash.J.Williams

Davetherave12 wrote: »

Surely not much more difficult - there the most corrupt police force in Europe after all right?
The most corrupt police force in Europe seized over £500 million of someone they had charged and investigated for 10 years - they then robbed a few kilo of drugs and gave the rest back to them......is that the general story?

Wasn’t Dk a big supporter of Spanish police ?

Rows Grower

Davetherave12 wrote: »

Surely not much more difficult - there the most corrupt police force in Europe after all right?
The most corrupt police force in Europe seized over £500 million of someone they had charged and investigated for 10 years - they then robbed a few kilo of drugs and gave the rest back to them......is that the general story?

I'd say now Dave you might have overdid the 'ol raving back in the day.

paw patrol

bigsuge1 wrote: »

Always wondered how close all involved were at one stage. Seems they must all know each other very well and not just distantly through Gary for example.

sucioguapo wrote: »

ye youd wonder, stadium is small enough bt youd always see the same kind of crowd anytime u went... gerry was a gent , had no interaction with dk but also met katie and pete taylor that night.. katie was v friendly and pete was sound out too

around time of the regency or soon after.
there was a photo in some paper of gerry on the piss sitting beside jaws and sadie byrne. seems they were well known to each other.

Justanoseygit

Does anyone on here, know 'Buckets of Blood' on a personal level?
I just saw a picture of him on the Whistleblowers account, and it reminded me,
of how much of a right mad punter he looks?
Is he mad, bad or just a pure loony?
(From my limited knowledge, I'm thinking all three!)

MickyPearse

Justanoseygit wrote: »

Does anyone on here, know 'Buckets of Blood' on a personal level?
I just saw a picture of him on the Whistleblowers account, and it reminded me,
of how much of a right mad punter he looks?
Is he mad, bad or just a pure loony?
(From my limited knowledge, I'm thinking all three!)

Only a few years back he was doing gym classes in phibsborough.. I was surprised to find out how deep he was with DK

doublejobbing 2

MickyPearse wrote: »

Only a few years back he was doing gym classes in phibsborough.. I was surprised to find out how deep he was with DK

Perfect cash business for somebody with illicit income to be fair.

fenian2020

MickyPearse wrote: »

Only a few years back he was doing gym classes in phibsborough.. I was surprised to find out how deep he was with DK

Me mate used to train there, DK was regularly in there.

fenian2020

paw patrol wrote: »

around time of the regency or soon after.
there was a photo in some paper of gerry on the piss sitting beside jaws and sadie byrne. seems they were well known to each other.

That was taken in The Monks pub in Spain.

fenian2020

Justanoseygit wrote: »

Does anyone on here, know 'Buckets of Blood' on a personal level?
I just saw a picture of him on the Whistleblowers account, and it reminded me,
of how much of a right mad punter he looks?
Is he mad, bad or just a pure loony?
(From my limited knowledge, I'm thinking all three!)

He’s done hits, armed robberies etc he’s game 100% and has put work in since he’s a teenager.

Eyes1

Davetherave12 wrote: »

If Spain is highly corrupt - like posters here are suggesting - Then why did they not just find a way to put DK in jail and then keep the £500 million in assests they took off him and use it for there own purposes?

Come on mate.

If you’re corrupt and you’ve got 5, 10 maybe 15 colleagues in on an earner getting back handers from a criminal outfit to give them info or to turn a blind eye to certain things in exchange for a few grand a month is a bit different from trying to do a job CAB would be proud of which in turn would alert every copper and politician in Spain to the operation.

Little and often € makes a lot more sense.

Eyes1

Also I’m sceptical about the talk of €500m in assets in Brazil or whatever.

Was a pyramid scheme type scam as opposed to actual shovel in the ground complex by all accounts.

Davetherave12

Eyes1 wrote: »

Come on mate.

If you’re corrupt and you’ve got 5, 10 maybe 15 colleagues in on an earner getting back handers from a criminal outfit to give them info or to turn a blind eye to certain things in exchange for a few grand a month is a bit different from trying to do a job CAB would be proud of which in turn would alert every copper and politician in Spain to the operation.

Little and often € makes a lot more sense.

Come on mate - they kept it quiet, little and often as not to alert politicians and other coppers to the scam?
It was front page news in Spain and on the national news from 2010

The theory a highly corrupt police force had the chance to take and keep 100s of millions of an individual but decided to give it all up for a few kg of cocaine and a few grand a month is bordering on fantasy land time, so there corrupt enough to take monthly bribes? But not corrupt enough to keep millions? - They are either corrupt or they aren’t, legally - you can’t have it both ways.

This is the exact reason in any other country but Ireland - police don’t go public with naming individuals they have not charged with a crime or convicted. Every one has the case fully figured out down to the wildest of details being accepted as fact - without it ever seeing a court room.

Figel Narage

Justanoseygit wrote: »

Does anyone on here, know 'Buckets of Blood' on a personal level?
I just saw a picture of him on the Whistleblowers account, and it reminded me,
of how much of a right mad punter he looks?
Is he mad, bad or just a pure loony?
(From my limited knowledge, I'm thinking all three!)

Spoken to him before (job related, not going into that here) but don't know him. I knew who he was when I was talking to him as I've been following this gangland scene for a number of years. Conversation didnt go on long enough to get a feel of what he's like.

Kaisersosay

@davetherave12

I'm struggling to see how they would have had the chance to steal the 500 mill. For a start it wasn't cash sitting on a pallet somewhere. It was made up of a lot of property all over the world... with deeds attached... where names would have needed to be changed with the authorities in order for those properties to change hands.

A lot of cars in that too...that were documented the moment they went in to a police compound. Watches jewellery the same. A lot of Bank accounts... no debit cards and pin numbers floating around there.

The only option would have been to grab cash or jewellery the moment they found it . And who knows... they probably did help themselves to a few bundles.
A suggestion that there was an option for them to cream off 500 mill in assets for themselves is ...well.. simply a non runner...after an investigation of that magnitude.