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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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    #5552
    stingrayed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭stingrayed


    Noseygit wrote: »
    After his sentence was passed, Smyth turned to family members in the gallery and said "5 world cups and I'll be out"


    Thinks he is a hero now, but the gardai will be looking for other stuff now to put him away for life, strange how years change people, and many will change when cancer gets brought down, and he will, yanks are now on his case.


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    #5553
    Mr.burgess
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Mr.burgess


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He’s a big boy. An absolute tank compared to most of the rest of them. Very recognisable he’d be.

    I know hes a big fella but so was the shooter in the parker killing soldier from the baldoyle area


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    #5554
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Noseygit wrote: »
    After his sentence was passed, Smyth turned to family members in the gallery and said "5 world cups and I'll be out"

    not very good at maths is he ?

    automatic remission for actually going to jail is 25% (enhanced remission if he isn't causing trouble inside is 33%)

    - so his 20yrs, is automatically 15yrs.

    and that is backdated to when he went into custody first - so he will be out in less than 15yrs ....in world cups that's 3 and maybe the qualifiers ... 2022, 2026 and 2030 he should be out before 2034 world cup.


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    #5555
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    Noseygit wrote: »
    After his sentence was passed, Smyth turned to family members in the gallery and said "5 world cups and I'll be out"

    He's been locked up since October 2019, someone should tell him he will actually be out well in time for the fifth one given he will get out in late 2034.

    It's a 15 year sentence but to be fair he couldn't have picked a better time to be in prison from March 2020 to perhaps beyond September this year. You wouldn't even miss this.


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    #5556
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Irishphotodesk wrote: »
    not very good at maths is he ?

    automatic remission for actually going to jail is 25% (enhanced remission if he isn't causing trouble inside is 33%)

    - so his 20yrs, is automatically 15yrs.

    and that is backdated to when he went into custody first - so he will be out in less than 15yrs ....in world cups that's 3 and maybe the qualifiers ... 2022, 2026 and 2030 he should be out before 2034 world cup.

    No such thing as automatic remission, a prisoner earns remission by his/her good behaviour within the prison system.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #5557
    Speedline
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Speedline


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    No such thing as automatic remission, a prisoner earns remission by his/her good behaviour within the prison system.

    You don't earn it. It's automatically given. In very very rare cases they can take it away.

    You can 'earn' enhanced remission of 33% alright.


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    #5558
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    No such thing as automatic remission, a prisoner earns remission by his/her good behaviour within the prison system.

    I'm pretty sure that is all but never enforced. John Gilligan got a consecutive sentence while serving 28 years (or was it when his appeal had been brought down to 20).

    Either way he served 15 of a 20 year term, his threats seemed to have no baring on it at all (fairly sure he was caught with contraband several times as well. Possibly assaulted an officer too).

    Fairly sure Larry Murphy got out after 25% despite presumably still being a danger and IIRC he refused to engage in therapy.

    I think the P.O union would probably kick up a stink if volatile prisoners were kept in longer.


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    #5559
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Speedline wrote: »
    You don't earn it. It's automatically given. In very very rare cases they can take it away.

    You can 'earn' enhanced remission of 33% alright.

    Standard remission allows the prisoner the opportunity to shorten the sentence.

    It is not an automatic right.

    Yes you can get enhanced remission and there have been case's of prisoners being admitted to jail to serve sentences who have gone through the whole formality, been assigned a cell for their sentence and within a couple of hours of arriving have been signed out because of overcrowding.

    There are also cases of prisoners who have not been released when the sentence passed on them has been completed in full.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #5560
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    doublejobbing 2 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that is all but never enforced. John Gilligan got a consecutive sentence while serving 28 years (or was it when his appeal had been brought down to 20).

    Either way he served 15 of a 20 year term, his threats seemed to have no baring on it at all (fairly sure he was caught with contraband several times as well. Possibly assaulted an officer too).

    Fairly sure Larry Murphy got out after 25% despite presumably still being a danger and IIRC he refused to engage in therapy.

    I think the P.O union would probably kick up a stink if volatile prisoners were kept in longer.

    Gilligan was a user inside?


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    #5561
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    theballz wrote: »
    Gilligan was a user boozer inside?

    FYP * I have no idea if he was/wasnt caught with booze or not , just thought it was funny


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    #5562
    catweazle
    Registered Users Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Irishphotodesk wrote: »
    not very good at maths is he ?

    automatic remission for actually going to jail is 25% (enhanced remission if he isn't causing trouble inside is 33%)

    - so his 20yrs, is automatically 15yrs.

    and that is backdated to when he went into custody first - so he will be out in less than 15yrs ....in world cups that's 3 and maybe the qualifiers ... 2022, 2026 and 2030 he should be out before 2034 world cup.

    He is talking about the rugby and cricket world cups


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    #5563
    Speedline
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Speedline


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    There are also cases of prisoners who have not been released when the sentence passed on them has been completed in full.
    Would you have any examples of this in Ireland please?


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    #5564
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    So many poxy journos looking for dirt in this thread these days. So obvious about it too.


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    #5565
    doublejobbing 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    theballz wrote: »
    Gilligan was a user inside?

    I thought he was caught with roids and home brew, I think.


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    #5566
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    theballz wrote: »
    So many poxy journos looking for dirt in this thread these days. So obvious about it too.

    The question (i think) you are referring to I doubt very much is a journo, it's actually an interesting question as keeping someone inside past there release date seems eh.....entirely unconstiutional


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    #5567
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    theballz wrote: »
    Gilligan was a user inside?
    theballz wrote: »
    So many poxy journos looking for dirt in this thread these days. So obvious about it too.

    irony lost on you, is it ?


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    #5568
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    theballz wrote: »
    So many poxy journos looking for dirt in this thread these days. So obvious about it too.

    Whos the journos then ?


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    #5569
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,419 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    No such thing as automatic remission, a prisoner earns remission by his/her good behaviour within the prison system.

    It is automatic. Absent any serious disciplinary issues every prisoner will get 25% off their sentence.


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    #5570
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Rows Grower .... any response to the request to back up your claim of prisoners not released after their sentence was finished ?

    as another poster asked - an example in Ireland would be good.

    I have never heard of it despite working around the legal system/in and around the courts for around 20yrs.


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    #5571
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Speedline wrote: »
    Would you have any examples of this in Ireland please?

    I know you can read and write and I know you have an internet connection so I'm going to welcome you to the forum by letting you answer your own question and hopefully you'll share your findings with the rest of us.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #5572
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    I know you can read and write and I know you have an internet connection so I'm going to welcome you to the forum by letting you answer your own question and hopefully you'll share your findings with the rest of us.

    ha ha ... shows you are making it up !


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    #5573
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    It is automatic. Absent any serious disciplinary issues every prisoner will get 25% off their sentence.

    It is not automatic.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #5574
    Speedline
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Speedline


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    I know you can read and write and I know you have an internet connection so I'm going to welcome you to the forum by letting you answer your own question and hopefully you'll share your findings with the rest of us.

    You are posting up unsubstantiated claims. And what's more, when you are asked to verify your claims, you resort to being condescending to that poster.

    Grow up.


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    #5575
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Irishphotodesk wrote: »
    Rows Grower .... any response to the request to back up your claim of prisoners not released after their sentence was finished ?

    as another poster asked - an example in Ireland would be good.

    I have never heard of it despite working around the legal system/in and around the courts for around 20yrs.

    Working around?

    As a traffic warden outside the court is it?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #5576
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Speedline wrote: »
    You are posting up unsubstantiated claims. And what's more, when you are asked to verify your claims, you resort to being condescending to that poster.

    Grow up.

    You have 6 posts to your name in the history of this forum, jog on.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #5577
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Why is Brian Meehan still in prison?


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    #5578
    Speedline
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Speedline


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    You have 6 posts to your name in the history of this forum, jog on.
    And thousands under my previous username since 2009. Jog on yourself.

    No sign of that link from yourself. What a surprise.


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    #5579
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Working around?

    As a traffic warden outside the court is it?

    as a photographer if you really must know - although I thought it was fairly obvious given the username and the fact that I have mentioned it on this thread previously.

    nice try to deflect though - im guessing you still don't want to answer the question - can you give an example of someone who has been in jail longer than the sentence given to them (in ireland).


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    #5580
    Speedline
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Speedline


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Why is Brian Meehan still in prison?
    He was done for murder. No release date. Its up to the authorities when he gets out. Malcolm Mc Arthur did a serious whack. His was a high profile case at the time, hence the long stretch.


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    #5581
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    No such thing as automatic remission, a prisoner earns remission by his/her good behaviour within the prison system.
    Rows Grower wrote: »
    It is not automatic.

    All remission is applied automatically. Prisoners have two release dates on their files; a sentence expiration and a remission date. The remission date is what is worked toward and taken into account for release/community return etc. Everyone gets it with the exception of anyone serving a) a life sentence b) less than a month or c) in for fines. People serving the full term is extremely rare. Larry Murphy famously walked after serving his time sans remission time.


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