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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23
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Paul_Crosby wrote: »I don't understand why Eamon Kelly was killed, they said it was retaliation for Ryan but was he ever suspected of involvement? It's said Kelly was an old supporter of the stickies (Official IRA who went on ceasefire in the 70s who the Provos and INLA originated and split off from) which isn't something you'd hear a lot from Dublin gangland figures as most of them probably don't even know who the sticks were (The INLA made a move to eliminate them after their ceasefire but they found out they still had guns and weren't afraid to use them)
Have to disagree. Of course, most Dublin criminals would have been aware of the Official IRA (aka Group
in the 1970s and 80s. Dublin was a small place, there was an overlap between those involved in robberies and counterfeiting for 'political' reasons (PIRA, OIRA, INLA) and various criminal gangs. There were overlapping friendships between criminals and OIRA members. Others knew each other from being from the same areas or being related through blood or marriage. The OIRA was never a huge organisation in Dublin but were considered strongest in Ballyfermot, Ballymun and the NIC/North Strand.
Brian Hanley and Scott Millar in The Lost Revolution illustrate that there were connections between criminals and Official IRA members in Dublin going back to the early '70s. Sometimes they worked together, other times the relationship was hostile. They recount that Group B members and the Dunne family had agreed to go on a joint robbery of a major jeweller and split the profits. On the day of the proposed robbery, Group B individuals led by Jim Flynn (shot dead by INLA in 1982) tied up the criminals and did the job on their own. The Dunne's made threats but backed down when shots were fired at one of their houses.
Barber Billy Wright, connected to the IRA pre 1969 and OIRA afterwards, was known to supply criminals with fake wigs and disguises across Dublin. He was shot dead by former OIRA associates in 1975 in Cabra after he was accused of passing on information to the police regarding a robbery in 1973.
Another criminal contact for the OIRA, according to The Lost Revolution, was armed robber Eamon Saurin. He was blamed for the murder of another criminal Christy McAuley in Killester in March 1978.
Eamon Kelly and his brother Matt were definitely connected to the Officials. Eamon took out full-page advertisements every month in Workers Life (WP/Offical magazine) throughout 1981 and 1982. The Lost Revolution says he had a network of about a dozen people who were engaged in armed robberies, counterfeiting and burning properties for insurance claims. There was a huge overlap between Kelly's crew and Group B members in the early '80s.
That working relationship ended in Aug 1984 when Eamon Kelly stabbed Pat Quierney (Ballymun WP member) outside the Officials drinking club (Club Uí Cadhain) in the basement of 28 Gardiner Place. Kelly was charged and sentenced to 10 years. The conviction was quashed following an appeal and reduced to three years.0 -
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Have to disagree. Of course, most Dublin criminals would have been aware of the Official IRA (aka Group in the 1970s and 80s. Dublin was a small place, there was an overlap between those involved in robberies and counterfeiting for 'political' reasons (PIRA, OIRA, INLA) and various criminal gangs. There were overlapping friendships between criminals and OIRA members. Others knew each other from being from the same areas or being related through blood or marriage. The OIRA was never a huge organisation in Dublin but were considered strongest in Ballyfermot, Ballymun and the NIC/North Strand.
Brian Hanley and Scott Millar in The Lost Revolution illustrate that there were connections between criminals and Official IRA members in Dublin going back to the early '70s. Sometimes they worked together, other times the relationship was hostile. They recount that Group B members and the Dunne family had agreed to go on a joint robbery of a major jeweller and split the profits. On the day of the proposed robbery, Group B individuals led by Jim Flynn (shot dead by INLA in 1982) tied up the criminals and did the job on their own. The Dunne's made threats but backed down when shots were fired at one of their houses.
Barber Billy Wright, connected to the IRA pre 1969 and OIRA afterwards, was known to supply criminals with fake wigs and disguises across Dublin. He was shot dead by former OIRA associates in 1975 in Cabra after he was accused of passing on information to the police regarding a robbery in 1973.
Another criminal contact for the OIRA, according to The Lost Revolution, was armed robber Eamon Saurin. He was blamed for the murder of another criminal Christy McAuley in Killester in March 1978.
Eamon Kelly and his brother Matt were definitely connected to the Officials. Eamon took out full-page advertisements every month in Workers Life (WP/Offical magazine) throughout 1981 and 1982. The Lost Revolution says he had a network of about a dozen people who were engaged in armed robberies, counterfeiting and burning properties for insurance claims. There was a huge overlap between Kelly's crew and Group B members in the early '80s.
That working relationship ended in Aug 1984 when Eamon Kelly stabbed Pat Quierney (Ballymun WP member) outside the Officials drinking club (Club Uí Cadhain) in the basement of 28 Gardiner Place. Kelly was charged and sentenced to 10 years. The conviction was quashed following an appeal and reduced to three years.
So the Kinahans and Mr Big , flashy and ears would be up to speed on the Irps and the Sticks? You're talking fellas decades ago mate, I said today
Interesting stuff but in no way does that mean Dublin criminals are up to speed with the Officials, they aren't up to speed in Belfast0 -
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