Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

Gadgetman496

Ms Justice Burns now speaking about Dowdall's conviction for the torture of a man

The recording showed him torturing him. She calls the crime "shocking."

Court was asked to view the recording. They declined to do so. The issue which was in dispute was what had not been recorded.

Gusser09

Hmmmm. This could go either way. I sincerely hope this scumbag doesn't walk.

Gadgetman496

Ms Justice Burns says fact Dowdall involved in such a vicious attack is disturbing

However a person who commits such a crime can still give truthful evidence, she says.

However in court Dowdall had accepted in court that he had "lied" before another Special Criminal Court hearing. "It is a matter the court must account for."

There is cause for concern, she says.

Hodors Appletart

"A significant question mark" hangs over Dowdall she says.

Gadgetman496

Dowdall asserted he was "too terrified to tell the truth" but the available option to stay silent was not availed by him.

The manner in which he told "convincing lies" is "extremely concerning to this court."

On the tape he talked about making bombs. A real question is "who is the court actually dealing with." "A significant question mark" hangs over Dowdall she says.

Court must assert his truthfulness about Hutch with scepticism.

Hodors Appletart

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120487768#Comment_120487768

absolutely destroyed

One would expect he would tell full account truthfully "warts and all." But she says, "that was not the case."

Gadgetman496

Dowdall came to court to tell a specific story but was reluctant to speak about other things

His relationship with Pearse McAuley is an example, she says. He was reluctant to speak about this and only accepted relationship with him when met with prison visit records.

He told a "bare faced lie" to the court about how many times he met McAuley.

Gadgetman496

Ms Justice Burns says very specific plots were raised to harm people by Dowdall on the tape

He claimed he was stressed out at time. But Judge Burns says he "doesn't sound stressed out" on the tape.

Dowdall claims the key card was handed to Gerry Hutch on the Richmond Road, as was his account of meeting him in park in Whitehall.

Justice Burns says the park meeting is placed by Dowdall as occurring after Eddie Hutch murder. He indicated then he couldn't remember what day it was but it was after Sunday World pic emerged.

iwroteitdownforyou

Jesus Dowdall is being crucified here, right job.

realdanbreen

Your playing a blinder gadget man!

ghostfacekilla

Sidenote. Pearse McAuley of all horrible cnuts visiting him in prison. Obviously still up to his oxters in it.

Gadgetman496

Judge Burns - One would have expected "extreme panic" from Dowdall about booking the room once he learned what happened at Regency. "Yet there is none."

Court now hearing of his cross examination and how he was challenged on the phone evidence of Sarah Skedd.

Gusser09

They are all scum. Hopefully they will do the same job on Gerard now soon.

Steviesol

Evidence doesnt matter. He will be found guilty.

Risoc

Any chance Dowdall is a false informer?

a ‘help’ to the Gardai that is so messy, he can bring down the prosecution in favour of Hutch.

Gadgetman496

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120487883#Comment_120487883

I'm only relaying what's being reported (Saves users having to jump around the place to keep up to date) By

Darragh MurphyDigital Journalist

Paul Healy

Michael O'Toole

Billy Scanlan

John Hand

Gadgetman496

Judge Burns says there is the further issue of Dowdall recognising Patrick Hutch from the SW photo

"That is just simply not possible."

passatman86

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120487906#Comment_120487906

Like in the movies - Hutch has Dowdall in his pocket to ruin the case

I'd watch that movie

Hodors Appletart

Dowdall isn't the only evidence, the DPP wouldn't have sent Hutch to trial just on this - there must be other evidence too

Gadgetman496

Court is of opinion Hutch confessing would have made a "searing impression on Jonathan Dowdall's memory."

Court is of view the events of the day would have made a "lasting impression" and "one might be expected to remember" whether it was the morning or afternoon.

Ms Justice Burns says court of view that Dowdall is witness in which great care has to be taken. Court is "not prepared to act on his statement alone."

rovers_runner

Gerry to walk, will be lucky to see Spain, no doubt there are lads tipped off about his plans.

Jonathan to end up in little pieces whenever he sees the light of day again.

Gusser09

This scumbag is going to walk.

Wow. It will be itterly unbelievable if the DPP felt the Dowdall's evidence was enough to convict Gerard. Hopefully the Kinahans will take care of him soon enough.

Gadgetman496

Dowdall and his father travelled to Strabane on February 4. Court is satisfied of this beyond all reasonable doubt

Court is satisfied beyond all reasonable doubt that Dowdalls arranged for the booking of room.

Gadgetman496

Court is satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that Patrick Dowdall checked into the room

CCTV captures him arriving at the hotel and paying in cash for the room.

While Patrick is depicted alone on CCTV, Jonathan says he drove Dad there. Cell site analysis places him there.

Gusser09

I wonder what Gerard alibi was for the day of the shooting and immediate aftermath. Did we ever hear?

If he walks then serious questions have to be asked of the DPP.

Gadgetman496

Court satisfied that Jonathan Dowdall was asked by Patsy to meet IRA contacts to seek their assistance to broker peace with Kinahans

And the court is satisfied that journey on February 4th and an earlier visit in January was to this end.

Ninap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120487918#Comment_120487918

There wasn't any other significant evidence. State's case is Dowdall's "evidence". Unless there's a major surprise, Hutch will walk.

blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120487918#Comment_120487918

Hutch had been charged with the murder long before Dowdall turned. DPP clearly felt they had enough evidence at that point - without Dowdall.

SSLil

I wonder if Patsy is packing a bag. They'll be knocking on his door soon enough.

Gadgetman496

Ms Justice Burns says Jonathan Dowdall and Gerry Hutch went to Strabane and at unknown location attended a meeting.

Court satisfied purpose was to meet dissident IRA to discuss assistance to broker ceasefire with Kinahans.