Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

Lyle

PopTarts wrote: »

Where on gov.ie do I see the daily tests stats again - total Tested and the total positive cases.

Lost the link. Thanks

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

Under ICU, Hospital & Testing

Oranage2

normanoffside wrote: »

I think we can all agree that that was like watching a really bad remake of a movie.

Terrible script and the standard of actors gone completely downhill.

The worst was the start when they all tried to make inspirational speeches, worst was Eamonn Ryan, how's he a minister and a leader of a party?

Doctors room ghost

normanoffside wrote: »

I think we can all agree that that was like watching a really bad remake of a movie.

Terrible script and the standard of actors gone completely downhill.

If that was a film you would be left wondering how the fcuk it got a budget in the first place.
The women version of the ghostbusters film springs to mind.brutal.

catrat12

Are summer camps and cul camps gone

Gruffalox

Gruffalox wrote: »

It is almost as fast as March in here at the minute so you might miss this reply.
I accept your 10 %. If a billion people get fku annually and WHO also estimate deaths at 250,000 to 500,000 annually, which I have seen, that is not the 0.1% mortality rate for flu which people go on about. It is at most half that. For the life of ne I cannot be sure what half of 0.1 % is. Is it 0.05? Which would make flu mortality rate look small beside guesstimated Covid mortality rate.

Vaccines reduce the flu mortality

is_that_so

blackcard wrote: »

But they have banned any gathering of more than 6 people, there are restrictions on restaurants/pubs anyway. Where could you socialize? This is total madness what they are doing

All I can do is quote Glynn who pointed out it was the before and after at sporting events where there were likely to be lots of contacts, both at matches and socially.

jojofizzio

statesaver wrote: »

Ok, so what are the restrictions again ?

Good question

PopTarts

Lyle wrote: »

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

Under ICU, Hospital & Testing

Thanks Lyle

Arghus

Well that wasn't great. I'm not usually one of those who'll just automatically complain just for the sake of it after a politician as much as breathes on television, but that was a bad enough press conference. Really low on detail. MM rambled and wasn't clear in his messaging. Stephen Donelley spoke better, on the rare occasion that he did speak, but his soundbites were totally lacking in detail - strong whiff of nebulous PR in his responses. Éamonn Ryan being there was a joke. He threw out some platitudes at the start, giving the impression of someone who'd done no work prior to the big presentation and was hoping to wing it when he had to speak: the most cringe moment of the entire press conference was when he interrupted Ronan Glynn in order to make his only attempt to answer a question - and rambled something fuzzy and wooly about people being tired.

Dr. Glynn was better, but even he fudged his way through some of his responses - felt like the inarticulate ramblings of the politicians was even more infectious than Covid.

Tim Robbins

Ok so sport continues but behind closed doors. So your 8 year old has a match, do you hide in the car? What about ten year old?

The mix messages from that meeting were farcical.

gifted

catrat12 wrote: »

Are summer camps and cul camps gone

To be fair cul camps were finished anyway

caveat emptor

caveat emptor wrote: »

The Finns defeated the soviets then held them to a draw.
The are used to adversity I guess and not waiting for orders.
Have we carried out any "random" PCR testing at airports or of the population in general and controlled for various factors?

I think this is really needed to get a grip on this before it gets out of control.

https://twitter.com/BloombergAsia/status/1292927914409963523?s=20

This is where we have failed and why we are back to. bad numbers.

Look at Wuhan now.

Don't see their people being restricted like ours for 5 months.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.rte.ie/amp/1159804/&ved=2ahUKEwjV2uLvpKXrAhXhZxUIHbQ-DZAQ0PADegQIDBAP&usg=AOvVaw3wghzgsd8JUoC8DvpnSn7p&ampcf=1

JP Liz V1

normanoffside wrote: »

I think we can all agree that that was like watching a really bad remake of a movie.

Terrible script and the standard of actors gone completely downhill.

Even an Asylum cheap sci fi film is better

thomas 123

Oranage2 wrote: »

All teams are allowed, just only 15 are allowed watch. He said it's not perfect but it's to stop 300 odd meeting before and after.

Main point was to limit contact with people to try stop the virus but it wasn't really explained well.

Makes no sense to me, then again the 9 euro tayto sandwich doesn't either.

Also did Stephen D say 3 in 100 people who arrive into the country have Covid or did I mishear that? He didn't really dive into that stat.

is_that_so

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Food Pubs opening extended?

Standardised I think, some were way past it and 11.30 in theory gives them three sittings.

Busi_Girl08

Deleted User wrote: »

So if you have five kids one is to move out?

It’s 6 from at most 3 different households. Nothing to do with numbers within that accommodation

I know what you mean, and obviously I don't mean family homes being broken up. That's why I said shared accommodation.

I meant it might draw a bit more attention to the problem of 4+ people crammed in single bedrooms in Dublin and other accommodation by dodgy landlords.

It probably won't though.

catrat12

gifted wrote: »

To be fair cul camps were finished anyway

Not in clubs in my area still on going

TheRiverman

Lyle wrote: »

76 are men and 111 are women

75% are under 45 years of age

75 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case

14 cases have been identified as community transmission

48 are in Kildare, 46 in Dublin, 38 in Tipperary, 20 in Limerick, 7 in Clare and the rest of the 31 cases are in Carlow, Cork, Kerry, Kilkenny, Laois, Louth, Meath, Offaly, Waterford, Wexford and Wicklow

Kildare,Meat plants and Glanbia ?
Dublin socialising ?
Tipperary and Limerick, Walsh Mushrooms ?

is_that_so

thomas 123 wrote: »

Makes no sense to me, then again the 9 euro tayto sandwich doesn't either. I am

Also did Stephen D say 3 in 100 people who arrive into the country have Covid or did I mishear that? He didn't really dive into that stat.

That's what he said, more to draw attention to where the cases are really coming from.

Wolf359f

thomas 123 wrote: »

Makes no sense to me, then again the 9 euro tayto sandwich doesn't either. I am

Also did Stephen D say 3 in 100 people who arrive into the country have Covid or did I mishear that? He didn't really dive into that stat.

It was 3 in 100 are connected to travel. So 1 positive person arrives home from abroad (or a Texas tourist) and infected 2 more.

Morrison J

Morrison J wrote: »

99% of comments being about people not being able to attend sports matches is so typical. People completely losing track of what's actually important. Same thing as the narrative for the last 3 months being about whether people can go on holidays or not. Ridiculous where people's priorities lie tbh.

The schools are whats important now and it's clear they are trying to reduce community transmission so the virus doesn't get into schools and force them to shut down. I love sport but in the grand scheme of things it can rightly take a back seat in terms of priority/importance.

What is important is what makes logical sense. And stopping outdoor sports events from having a tiny number of spectators in a safe environment makes absolutely no sense. Especially in the light of 50 allowed to attend indoor weddings. You only need 5 people for a wedding

JP Liz V1

is_that_so wrote: »

Standardised I think, some were way past it and 11.30 in theory gives them three sittings.

What about non food pub openings, is that pushed back?

Does food pubs then serve "food" until 90 mins before closing?

thomas 123

is_that_so wrote: »

That's what he said, more to draw attention to where the cases are really coming from.

Did he mean maybe 3/100 cases of covid are from travel, he really glossed over it .

Obviously 3 in 100 of people coming into the country would be a massive problem.

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1295780744221143041?s=19

The_Brood

If you're not angry yet, get angry.

Russia has the vaccine, and instead of playing hide and seek with restrictions and ruining prople's lives, we should be lining up to get it and end this quarantine nightmare.

Only public anger will force them to act.

smelly sock

TheRiverman wrote: »

Kildare,Meat plants and Glanbia ?
Dublin socialising ?
Tipperary and Limerick, Walsh Mushrooms ?

GAA everywhere it would seem.

Speak Now

Ireland "significantly" tightens COVID 19 restrictions according to Sky News yellow ticker bar! A headline as confusing as the message delivered by Martin.

normanoffside

thomas 123 wrote: »

Makes no sense to me, then again the 9 euro tayto sandwich doesn't either.

Also did Stephen D say 3 in 100 people who arrive into the country have Covid or did I mishear that? He didn't really dive into that stat.

No, he said only 3 in 100 of cases is coming as a direct or indirect result of people flying into the country. Basically that travel is not a major cause of the upsurge.

He used this as an excuse as to why he still hasn't introduced the online locator forms, random testing and 'red list' he had promised weeks ago.

Wolf359f

So limit people socialising in homes/gardens and at sporting events and instead allow them to socialise in a pub. I dunno, seems outdoors in Ireland covid is more infections than the rest of the world.

Arghus

Arghus wrote: »

Well that wasn't great. I'm not usually one of those who'll just automatically complain just for the sake of it after a politician as much as breathes on television, but that was a bad enough press conference. Really low on detail. MM rambled and wasn't clear in his messaging. Stephen Donelley spoke better, on the rare occasion that he did speak, but his soundbites were totally lacking in detail - strong whiff of nebulous PR in his responses. Éamonn Ryan being there was a joke. He threw out some platitudes at the start, giving the impression of someone who'd done no work prior to the big presentation and was hoping to wing it when he had to speak: the most cringe moment of the entire press conference was when he interrupted Ronan Glynn in order to make his only attempt to answer a question - and rambled something fuzzy and wooly about people being tired.

Dr. Glynn was better, but even he fudged his way through some of his responses - felt like the inarticulate ramblings of the politicians was even more infectious than Covid.

None of them wanted to be there. There body language said it all.

Oranage2

thomas 123 wrote: »

Makes no sense to me, then again the 9 euro tayto sandwich doesn't either.

Also did Stephen D say 3 in 100 people who arrive into the country have Covid or did I mishear that? He didn't really dive into that stat.

Also wasn't clear how he said it, I assumed he meant 3 out of 100 confirmed covid cases were travel realated

JP Liz V1

TheRiverman wrote: »

Kildare,Meat plants and Glanbia ?
Dublin socialising ?
Tipperary and Limerick, Walsh Mushrooms ?

Is there a construction site now also in Kildare with positive cases?

thomas 123

Deleted User wrote: »

What is important is what makes logical sense. And stopping outdoor sports events from having a tiny number of spectators in a safe environment makes absolutely no sense. Especially in the light of 50 allowed to attend indoor weddings. You only need 5 people for a wedding

Have you driven past a Gaa field on a Saturday, our local under 14 games(looks like Blitzes) are drawing what looks like well over 200 people.

is_that_so

BattleCorp wrote: »

The system can process 100K tests maybe but it's a different story going to each and every meat factory and taking the tests on a weekly basis. So that might involve going to hundreds or even over 1000 sites each week to collect samples. Not an easy job.

Not disputing that but they managed to blitz the three counties in a week and a bit so I'd say it's manageable. I'm not sure it's weekly for plants, care homes yes.

Call me Al

Call me Al wrote: »

Yep.
Our numbers aren't good.

Yet 31 positive test in the last 24 hours

is_that_so

thomas 123 wrote: »

Did he mean maybe 3/100 cases of covid are from travel, he really glossed over it .

Obviously 3 in 100 of people coming into the country would be a massive problem.

3 in every 100 cases currently are travel related.

ExMachina1000

Oranage2 wrote: »

The worst was the start when they all tried to make inspirational speeches, worst was Eamonn Ryan, how's he a minister and a leader of a party?

7% of the vote. Hes the daddy now. Some country

spookwoman

Age Affected and Hospitalised

Gruffalux

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Vaccines reduce the flu mortality

Reasonable point and I had not considered it. But..
2 thirds of flu deaths are over 65 and recent studies show flu vaccination does not reduce hospitalisation or death from flu in over 65.

I'm just following this through because of the IFR thing.

cheezums

martin is just awful. and why was eamon up there? useless sack of spuds.

is_that_so

Wolf359f wrote: »

It was 3 in 100 are connected to travel. So 1 positive person arrives home from abroad (or a Texas tourist) and infected 2 more.

Sure but 50 people going to a house party and infecting 100 more is of a lot more concern.

Psychiatric Patrick

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's not just over 70's - anyone who is at a higher risk and it's worked perfectly well in my experience since this started in April (I'm one of those at a higher risk)

It all had a bad effect on my mother.

I did what I could with walks and drives but no grandchildren in the house and no visits to or from her sisters. And no Mass.

Is it is starting all over again now?

JP Liz V1

Lyle wrote: »

76 are men and 111 are women

75% are under 45 years of age

75 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case

14 cases have been identified as community transmission

48 are in Kildare, 46 in Dublin, 38 in Tipperary, 20 in Limerick, 7 in Clare and the rest of the 31 cases are in Carlow, Cork, Kerry, Kilkenny, Laois, Louth, Meath, Offaly, Waterford, Wexford and Wicklow

High in Tipp and Limerick, are cities out for lockdown like Dublin and Limerick?

We need control and a clear message about travel, testing at airports, borders and ports etc.,

domrush

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

High in Tipp and Limerick, are cities out for lockdown like Dublin and Limerick?

We need control and a clear message about travel, testing at airports, borders and ports etc.,

It was very clear today that the latest increase had nothing to do with travel, both Donnelly and Glynn said it

ExMachina1000

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1295780744221143041?s=19

That chap is 12 year old. He just doesn't want to go back to school. Pay no heed

MY BAD

I'm a bit confused. So only gatherings of 15 outdoor but 15 vs 15 GAA players plus subs and coaches is okay? Those this mean 50 people can still gather indoors for a mass, wedding, and restaurant? It's not very clear or making sense?

is_that_so

Wolf359f wrote: »

So limit people socialising in homes/gardens and at sporting events and instead allow them to socialise in a pub. I dunno, seems outdoors in Ireland covid is more infections than the rest of the world.

Pubs as they are regulated are a much more controlled environment. It's the limiting of contacts they want, currently at six for cases I believe.

JP Liz V1

How can schools still reopen if the young are getting it and spreading with no symptoms?

Oranage2

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

It all had a bad effect on my mother.

I did what I could with walks and drives but no grandchildren in the house and no visits to or from her sisters. And no Mass.

Is it is starting all over again now?

If people follow the rules, the factories get checks and there's no outbreaks from schools going back then it might be okay. Though it's slim to none all this happening

pc7

I’d say all the government advisors are getting ripped a new one, that was a shambles