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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    “The number of confirmed cases notified to us daily is likely to rise and fall this week. It is important to look at the wider trends we see in this disease in Ireland for context, and not simply one day’s figures in isolation."

    Dr Ronan Glynn
    Acting Chief Medical Officer


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    Gender fluid?

    Probably have names like Pat or Sam that could apply to either sex.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Analysis of cases as of midnight Sunday 9th August - 26,767 cases (+56)

    Healthcare Workers +9
    Clusters -2
    Cases associated with clusters +44

    Age Range Affected
    0-4 +2
    5-14 +4
    15-24 +15
    25-34 +11
    35-44 +8
    45-54 +9
    55-64 +6
    65-74 +1
    75-84 No Change
    85+ No Change

    Cases by County
    Clare +3
    Cork +3
    Donegal +2
    Dublin +7
    Galway +1
    Kerry +2
    Kildare +19
    Laois +2
    Limerick +7
    Offaly +9
    Wicklow +1

    I don’t suppose if you have any statistical data that seperates out asymptomatic of the numbers? If our Asymptomatic numbers have been rising it could. Be explained by people being infected with lower viral doses due to masks and better behaviors (social distance , hygiene etc). That may also help explain a lower death rate which would be fantastic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I don’t suppose if you have any statistical data that seperates out asymptomatic of the numbers? If our Asymptomatic numbers have been rising it could
    Be explained by people being infected with lower viral doses due to masks and better behaviors (social distance , hygiene etc)
    We get none of that info unfortunately


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    “The number of confirmed cases notified to us daily is likely to rise and fall this week. It is important to look at the wider trends we see in this disease in Ireland for context, and not simply one day’s figures in isolation."
    If you exclude the spike caused by the clusters, our 7 day average has again begin to look pretty healthy (relatively).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭xvril


    Positive numbers. Tomorrow might be different


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Numbers be good today


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Where are the cases from the Meath Crèche?

    Are they in the Sunday report (Friday figures?)? The news report said the family was only notified of the results on Sunday night, so I’d have expected to see them today, or am I missing something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Excellent figure for a Tuesday after the last week we've had

    How many people are tested every day


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Of the cases notified today:


    24 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case
    5 cases have been identified as community transmission

    So that’s 29 out of 35 allocated. What happened the the other 6?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,857 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Drumpot wrote: »
    This is what can happen during wars and natural disasters , there is a new norm and certain liberties are lost until the crisis abates. This is a very slow moving natural disaster , so more extreme long term measures are needed until people cop the f**k on and realise the virus has no ideology and doesn’t respect democracy.

    People taking this “freedom” approach are working backwards. They are looking at the restrictions as a threat to liberty instead of looking at why these restrictions are being imposed and seeing that they are needed because a virus doesn’t care if your political leanings, it infects you or it doesn’t based on your behaviour. Western democracy’s have suffered badly , a lot because of our Hubris (won’t come here), our behaviors (down with masks and that sort of stuff) and our fixation with our non essential luxuries (will somebody please think about the pubs).

    Wearing a mask is not a huge sacrifice if it helps reduce the impact of the virus (it clearly does) but some people just do not want to understand this or maybe they can’t grasp the variables of this crisis or maybe they just can’t have their beliefs challenged. Maybe it’s partial denial (that there is an ongoing crisis unfolding) and maybe a bit of blissful ignorance (the less you know, the more you can belligerently complain about measures you don’t like).

    I posted up a medical clip discussing how masks help on multiple levels That you chose you ignore. If you don’t understand why masks are helpful and important then you won’t understand why countries are taking such a strong stance against non compliance of wearing them.


    There's a difference between thinking that masks are helpful and the heavy-handed authoritarian approach that's been taken. They could've convinced/propagandised 80-90% of people to wear masks and just left the other people be.

    Instead you have headbanger Victoria police going around tackling people in Melbourne for not wearing a mask. (Notice that the guards here were too shrewd to alienate people and mostly increased their profile in the community even while having to police people far more heavily than usual.)

    Of course I'm going to take a "freedom" approach if western democracies are borrowing tactics from tinpot communist countries in order to enforce their directives. What a terrible mishandling of the whole thing and if they had any kind of subtely or appreciation of the fact that they are not abolsute rulers they'd have cooled it down a bit.

    The virus has no ideology blah blah blah. As if the only way to protect from a virus was to adopt the most rigid and provocative methods imaginable. And then supporters of authoritarianism (for a 'good cause') get annoyed at having it pointed out to them.

    Contrary to what people think just the fact of some medical necessity isn't a blank cheque to do whatever you want. And even if it was, picking the most riling thing to do doesn't then become wise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    So that’s 29 out of 35 allocated. What happened the the other 6?
    Healthcare workers, travel or cases under investigation.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Healthcare workers, travel or cases under investigation.

    I know there’s always cases they haven’t allocated but does that info get updated at a later date and can that info be found anywhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,771 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Has anybody done a breakdown of the numbers excluding the meat factory clusters? I'd be very interested in those numbers....


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I know there’s always cases they haven’t allocated but does that info get updated at a later date and can that info be found anywhere.
    It does not


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,141 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Piehead wrote: »
    Could be 350+ cases today
    Actually a tenth of that figure - do not scaremonger


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    2 denotifications as well so 33 to the overall tally.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It does not

    So there’s a large number of “unknowns” accumulating?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,929 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Increase with todays numbers (Sunday) Hospitalisations

    Age
    25-34 +1
    45-54 +2
    55-64 +1
    65-74 +3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    So Vlad is going to save us all.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    mr zulu wrote: »
    Is that good or bad?

    Population 9million
    40% infected
    23,000 deaths
    IFR c. 0.6%


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Apologies if this has been discussed before but has there been any discussion or investigation into cases that may or may not have arisen from the the increase of flights.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,665 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    So there’s a large number of “unknowns” accumulating?
    No, they just don't tell us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Great figure thankfully but some positive tests left over for tomorrow

    What's this? Why would they leave some for tomorrow...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭jlang


    Moreover, we now know that the LOK total for tomorrow will be 12 cases or fewer:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/b9560-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-tuesday-11-august/

    The tests that led to the high reported numbers over the weekend must have been already tested or about to be tested by the time the announcement was made. Unless they think they can report another spike in positive test cases in the L-O-K counties later this week, it's hard to see the additional restrictions as having had or being able to have any effect at all (other than as a lesson for the rest of us). There's still two more weeks of limited movement for three counties, just to make sure.


    So I'm ready to call them unnecessarily cautious as the virus seemingly hadn't slipped into widespread community transfer in the LOK. (As opposed to the original full lockdown when we didn't have the testing in place to even know how widespread it was going to get, and as we tested on with the restrictions in place, we did keep finding more.)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    growleaves wrote: »
    Nineteenth-century judges who sentenced petty thieves to be transported to Australia acted with more probity than many figures of authority, and their supporters on this thread, now do.

    You used to be one of the more level headed members of the restrictions thread cabal growleaves.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    xvril wrote: »
    Positive numbers. Tomorrow might be different

    And it might not


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    5 cases of community transmission reported today out of 35 cases overall.

    That's the good news. While cases have increased the community transmission rate is low.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    Population 9million
    40% infected
    23,000 deaths
    IFR c. 0.6%

    Mad stats

    Was that 40% detected IgG/IgM antibodies?

    Or does it include t-spot cmi testing?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Population 9million
    40% infected
    23,000 deaths
    IFR c. 0.6%

    In or around there is where the IFR seems to be settling. It is not frighteningly high by any means though it is not insignificant either for a very contagious disease.
    The interesting things to look for in future proper research or even in lay person observation of reports in media are significant or prolonged sequelae and repeat infections. Of the latter I have not heard much and anecdotal here and theres is not worrisome. Of the former I await the passage of time.


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