Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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Italy at +947 today, getting close the 4-figure numbers again.
France +4,586
Czechia almost hitting it's original peak numbers, but in the 300s

There does seem to be a trend in Europe, not quite as sharp as initially, some are levelling or dropping, some on the way up. Likely far more testing everywhere but one to watch.

Fann Linn

is_that_so wrote: »

That's really for social media consumption. No real reason to do so apart giving the Opposition even more oxygen to do what they are doing now.

You don't believe the return to schools or the current crisis deserves debate in DE?

NegativeCreep

El Sueño wrote: »

Why is two years optimistic? What are you basing that on exactly?

2 years doesn’t fit in with his apocalypse fantasy

Tandey

Wonder how many of those that went to this golf thing live in either Offaly,Laois and Kildare.

Has this been reported?

JP Liz V1

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Dail is sitting in a theatre somewhere isn't it?

Convention Centre?

yourdeadwright

eigrod wrote: »

Must’ve been 1 case denotification since lunchtime

There will be harsh words with my source tonight,
One out is one out to many
To be honest I'd believe him over the government at this stage,

Charles Babbage

partyguinness wrote: »

Sure it is regulated but what type of point is that? Tell that to people with life changing injuries.

You are completely missing my point but seems to be quite normal among all the doom merchants on here.

We are faced with risk every day and 'unknowns' as another poster mentioned. I am not going to live my life in fear otherwise I would never get into a car if I sat around thinking about the death rates and horrific injuries suffered. Likewise I am not going to dwell and fret on the possibility that I might get C19 or pass it on unknowingly.

Driving is a perfect example. You are able to drive around, but deaths have been reduced to a tenth of what they were. Wearing a seatbelt or stopping at a red light might be a nuisance but responsible people do it, likewisr with wearing a mask to staying 2m away. Likewise with Covid you can live your life, you just have to avoid certain dangerous actions.

Had boards existed 50 year ago you'd probably have been condemning seat belts as something promoted by 'doom merchants'.

Give it a week or so, Cahir meat factory might produce a lot, I've been told again today about a case in another tipperary meat factory..

This might not represent a real change but just proper testing in these places.

Atlantic Dawn

Ohmeha wrote: »

One definitely out in Howth/Sutton area but scale of it still unknown

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/howth-covid19-sutton-ireland-coronavirus-18794964.amp

Tandey

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Convention Centre?

No they require a place that has a golf club and serves dinner.

KrustyUCC

yourdeadwright wrote: »

There will be harsh words with my source tonight,
One out is one out to many
To be honest I'd believe him over the government at this stage,

Keep them coming please

Atlantic Dawn

Is there no AC in government buildings, sweat pumping out of MM on RTE1? Looks like really unhealthy place that Covid would spread.

Tandey

Tandey wrote: »

No they require a place that has a golf club and serves dinner.

Minimum 80 seats. They need a majority

s1ippy

23M cases worldwide.

is_that_so

Fann Linn wrote: »

You don't believe the return to schools or the current crisis deserves debate in DE?

A minister who behaved badly and resigned is a FF crisis. Until the school return actually happens what are they going to be debating? It's a civil service/DoH/HSE issue and would more likely end up before a committee.

expectationlost

Widdensushi wrote: »

Mary lou looking for the Dail recalled, surely it can't be under the current restrictions

it can, essential work, but...

shipposter

Bring back Leo and FG. Ever since FF got into actual power it's been down hill on all fronts.

yourdeadwright

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Of the cases notified today:

39 are men and 40 are women
73% are under 45 years of age
30 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case
21 cases have been identified as community transmission
43 are in Dublin, 9 in Kildare, 6 in Cork, 6 in Tipperary and the remaining 15 cases are in Clare, Donegal, Laois, Limerick, Louth, Mayo, Roscommon, Wexford and Wicklow

My source said 10 in Kildare so thats the one he went over on, Still not bad

expectationlost

yourdeadwright wrote: »

There will be harsh words with my source tonight,
One out is one out to many
To be honest I'd believe him over the government at this stage,

you don't believe the government because the figure changed by 1 in few hours?

prunudo

GooglePlus wrote: »

Bet your bottom dollar that Mary Lou will be our next Taoiseach.

If it was a close call before all this..

If MM keeps making a mess of things, id say Leo will walk it, certainly of it falls apart this side of Christmas, there'll be plenty of ff voters who will see the shambles that they've made of covid so far and switch to fg.

RickDeckard

M.Martin lecturing us about undermining democracy for daring to ask for accountability. Rat. Worm. Traitor. All 80 should be named and shamed and then some.

How much are guillotine's going for these days?

expectationlost

shipposter wrote: »

Bring back Leo and FG. Ever since FF got into actual power it's been down hill on all fronts.

problem with conditions at work plants preceeded new government, they've lasted a long time over lots of FF and FG and LP, GP, PD + IND) govs.

Fann Linn

is_that_so wrote: »

A minister who behaved badly and resigned is a FF crisis. Until the school return actually happens what are they going to be debating? It's a civil service/DoH/HSE issue and would more likely end up before a committee.

I was actually on about the increase in cases, DP centres, abattoirs, etc. A game of golf and FG/FF skullduggery doesn't really concern me.

lukas8888

GooglePlus wrote: »

Bet your bottom dollar that Mary Lou will be our next Taoiseach.

If it was a close call before all this..

Maybe,but no way would i bet my bottom dollar on it.

Tandey

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Minimum 80 seats. They need a majority

Well, what is clear that this government will never achieve a hole in one.

Mental Mickey

Jaysus.......Meehole is talking bollocks on RTE NEWS. Totally dodging questions.

Fann Linn

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Jaysus.......Meehole is talking bollocks on RTE NEWS. Totally dodging questions.

Being interviewed by an amateur makes it oh so easy.

Tandey

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Jaysus.......Meehole is talking bollocks on RTE NEWS. Totally dodging questions.

Sounds like he should take up boxing.

is_that_so

Fann Linn wrote: »

I was actually on about the increase in cases, DP centres, abattoirs, etc. A game of golf and FG/FF skullduggery doesn't really concern me.

Fair enough but it's also beyond their influence. It's HSE testing and contact tracing that will address all of that.

RickDeckard

He is getting narkey again, what a fool. God , how did he get back into power? I hate this year

hmmm

GooglePlus wrote: »

Bet your bottom dollar that Mary Lou will be our next Taoiseach.

If it was a close call before all this..

SF haven't exactly covered themselves with glory in adhering to Covid guidelines.

I think we need a genuine national government as no politician wants to make the decisions we are facing. If we can't get that, let's have Leo back. Although Harris looked wrecked I thought, so that might be too much to ask.

For once I have sympathy for politicians. They are facing a set of impossible but necessary decisions, and the alternative is possibly large-scale suffering and death. Who is going to tell the country that you can't go visit your relatives for Christmas dinner this year?

is_that_so

RickDeckard wrote: »

He is getting narkey again, what a fool. God , how did he get back into power? I hate this year

Feckin' voters is how!:D

Mental Mickey

Fann Linn wrote: »

Being interviewed by an amateur makes it oh so easy.

Nah I have to say she's good. He's squirming out of questions

MD1990

Martin will need a shower after the interview on RTE.

Looks like a junkie having withdrawels.

RickDeckard

is_that_so wrote: »

Feckin' voters is how!:D

Yeah, he got a huge portion of the vote......

shipposter

Mehole loves his shabby pages of notes, always has them in interviews and debates.

Tandey

Tandey wrote: »

Sounds like he should take up boxing.

Sweating heavily and all.

dalyboy

Listening to MM here on RTÉ. How does he know scientifically that the numbers decrease of infection in LOK is as a result of the lockdown ? How does he know that the numbers would not have decreased even without this localised lockdown? Looks very like a Correlation/Causation fallacy he’s muttering there.

RickDeckard

That big shiny head is looking a bit sweaty as this goes on... Here come the Bertie Stutters.... Has Ireland not suffered enough FFS.

GooglePlus

shipposter wrote: »

Bring back Leo and FG. Ever since FF got into actual power it's been down hill on all fronts.

It was going that way anyway, didn't matter who took the reigns.

stephenjmcd

Another car crash, doesn't answer questions out straight.

Everything is clear he says.

Another ah no no thats not right line.

Extremely snappy interview. He's under massive pressure its showing.

shipposter

"aahh no tis"

So eloquent

ACitizenErased

He’s making us in Cork more hated than we already are

stephenjmcd

shipposter wrote: »

"aahh no tis"

So eloquent

will teachers have enough cleaning supplies etc.

Ah no no tis not an issue.

Christ

timsey tiger

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's why avoiding contacts for the rest of the population is vital to the plans. If 80% of the population can keep the risk of transmission to a minimum and schools take as many precautions as practicable then we could keep the R0 at a manageable level. It's a big ask but seems to be the only option at the moment.

So we're relying on the likes of assetbacked avoiding foreign travel, etc. Yeah, we'll see how that plan turns out I guess.

RickDeckard

This cannot stand, this cannot go on. This is a Joke. Election Now.

Tandey

If they are 2 metres apart it’s just about the 2000mm.

ACitizenErased

Advance payment approved for COVID-19 vaccine for Ireland apparently

KaneToad

RickDeckard wrote: »

M.Martin lecturing us about undermining democracy for daring to ask for accountability. Rat. Worm. Traitor. All 80 should be named and shamed and then some.

How much are guillotine's going for these days?

Were they not already named? I saw pictures of the seating plans on twitter.

Mental Mickey

Was that an ambulance coming to take him away?

Atlantic Dawn

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Advance payment approved for COVID-19 vaccine for Ireland apparently

They will buy any magic beans going.