Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

Jinglejangle69

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The virus detected in 41 schools in Germany according to RTE Radio, a fun week leading in to the schools reopening here.

9 people died on our roads last week.

Fun week leading into the roads this week...

1000s died of smoking related illness this year.

Fun week leading into shops legally selling cigarettes this week....

xhomelezz

[Deleted User] wrote: »

More tests processed in yesterday’s numbers than at any other stage in the pandemic. 60,000 tests in the last 7 days. Given 760,000 have been processing since this started nearly 6 months ago, the current rate of testing is a way ahead of the level seen earlier in the pandemic

It's not only about taking tens of thousands swabs a day, but be able to process them and trace contacts as fast as possible.

Jim_Hodge

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

9 people died on our roads last week.

Fun week leading into the roads this week...

1000s died of smoking related illness this year.

Fum week leading into shops legally selling cigarettes this week....

Obscure correlation there.

Atlantic Dawn

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Obscure correlation there.

It's not, it shows on a per cost to save a life what we are doing with Covid is completely insane.

Damien360

Santy2015 wrote: »

I wonder are people taking the piss with the app. Last few days 100% of people checking in have zero symptoms. I know that’s possible but 250,000/300,000 check in each day and none have symptoms...

I reckon the average age of usage of the app is over 40. I base it only on what you have quoted above and my experience below. More than once I have heard under 30’s in various workplaces all over ireland (I travel all over ireland) tell me they won’t download it as the government can track you. Despite the code being openly released with no such functionality and we have a government with various servers within the many state bodies that can’t talk to each other due to being structured differently, how in lords name does anyone think that.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

More tests processed in yesterday’s numbers than at any other stage in the pandemic. 60,000 tests in the last 7 days. Given 760,000 have been processing since this started nearly 6 months ago, the current rate of testing is a way ahead of the level seen earlier in the pandemic

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://twitter.com/illonaduffy/status/1295298892280614912%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Etweet&ved=2ahUKEwi_m_X_2a7rAhVHfMAKHdnUAPQQglR6BAgEEAk&usg=AOvVaw2QEBji-wIGHn8n1cKcy2F3

HSE would call this an outlier or some other spin.

It is systems failure.

Derek Zoolander

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The virus detected in 41 schools in Germany according to RTE Radio, a fun week leading in to the schools reopening here.

There are 34,486 schools in Germany - that’s a minuscule %

Jinglejangle69

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Obscure correlation there.

How so?

Driving is a danger to national health.

Should we close all roads?

Eod100

Deleted User wrote: »

I heard that many people that have covid19 symptoms dont want to be tested, because insurance companies are becoming more reluctant to sell life insurance to people who have had this dose, and you cant get a mortgage without life insurance.

I don't really know the point in that feature there

redmgar

Derek Zoolander wrote: »

There are 34,486 schools in Germany - that’s a minuscule %

41 school's in Berlin

redmgar

There are 825 schools in Berlin, less than Ireland

smellyoldboot

Damien360 wrote: »

I reckon the average age of usage of the app is over 40. I base it only on what you have quoted above and my experience below. More than once I have heard under 30’s in various workplaces all over ireland (I travel all over ireland) tell me they won’t download it as the government can track you. Despite the code being openly released with no such functionality and we have a government with various servers within the many state bodies that can’t talk to each other due to being structured differently, how in lords name does anyone think that.

I had it installed and it nearly killed the phone. Yeah they updated it blah blah but how badly made must it have been to do that in the first place, you would hardly trust it again like. So it can stay gone now.

bb1234567

Derek Zoolander wrote: »

There are 34,486 schools in Germany - that’s a minuscule %

The schools are all in one city. It is a shocking number of outbreaks in one region two weeks after opening. It's why it's international news, some people on these threads just seek to irrationally minimise absolutely everything and anything going on.

Boggles

Derek Zoolander wrote: »

There are 34,486 schools in Germany - that’s a minuscule %

It's just Berlin schools.

cases have been reported by at least 41 schools in Berlin, barely two weeks after the German capital’s 825 schools reopened.

Berlin was one of the first places in Germany to reopen its schools after the summer holidays

5% after less than 2 weeks.

podgeandrodge

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Another great clip.

https://youtu.be/wpCQRH5Uzzo

That guy is very good, first time I heard him. Wish RTE would get him on. Maybe they have.

Derek Zoolander

redmgar wrote: »

41 school's in Berlin

Fair enough - quote was Germany..

I think that’s about 5% but in the article they are stating that it’s only one case etc... so it shows that cases identified early close down schools and stop spread - that’s essentially what next year will look like

redmgar

Derek Zoolander wrote: »

Fair enough - quote was Germany..

I think that’s about 5% but in the article they are stating that it’s only one case etc... so it shows that cases identified early close down schools and stop spread - that’s essentially what next year will look like

I know, it's going to be a mess. But I don't think anyone specifically can be blamed. They have to at least try and get them back.

RebelButtMunch

smellyoldboot wrote: »

I had it installed and it nearly killed the phone. Yeah they updated it blah blah but how badly made must it have been to do that in the first place, you would hardly trust it again like. So it can stay gone now.

If at first.... never try again ?

Strumms

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

How so?

Driving is a danger to national health.

Should we close all roads?

No, but we have driving legislation and punishments for individuals when they are broken. The law is a deterrent.

There can be no deterrent with schools. It’s going to purely end in disaster I think. If I was a teacher I’m quitting, not putting myself in harms way for a job.

I’ve just been talking on the phone to a friend of mine who is an SNA in a school, LOVES her job but dreading going back, absolutely dreading it... she is in a class with kids one or two which have learning / behavioral issues too...

Oranage2

People are so dense. This is a deadly contagious virus.

Jinglejangle69

Strumms wrote: »

No, but we have driving legislation and punishments for individuals when they are broken. The law is a deterrent.

There can be no deterrent with schools. It’s going to purely end in disaster I think. If I was a teacher I’m quitting, not putting myself in harms way for a job.

I’ve just been talking on the phone to a friend of mine who is an SNA in a school, LOVES her job but dreading going back, absolutely dreading it... she is in a class with kids one or two which have learning / behavioral issues too...

We have all of that for covid.

How long do you think we can hide and keep kids hidden from a virus that kills 0.03% of the worlds population before we run out of money and resources to survive?

khalessi

Strumms wrote: »

No, but we have driving legislation and punishments for individuals when they are broken. The law is a deterrent.

There can be no deterrent with schools. It’s going to purely end in disaster I think. If I was a teacher I’m quitting, not putting myself in harms way for a job.

I’ve just been talking on the phone to a friend of mine who is an SNA in a school, LOVES her job but dreading going back, absolutely dreading it... she is in a class with kids one or two which have learning / behavioral issues too...

Just to add, most SNAs are moving between multiple children in multiple classes at different levels so though they may have 8 children to go between they are exposed to classes of 27-32 children in each class and Learning Support teachers are also moving between classes bubbles.

Jinglejangle69

Oranage2 wrote: »

People are so dense. This is a deadly contagious virus.

Contagious yes.

Massive Killer, well the stats suggests it's not.

niallo27

[QUOTE=Strumms;114386620]No, but we have driving legislation and punishments for individuals when they are broken. The law is a deterrent.

There can be no deterrent with schools. It’s going to purely end in disaster I think. If I was a teacher I’m quitting, not putting myself in harms way for a job.

I’ve just been talking on the phone to a friend of mine who is an SNA in a school, LOVES her job but dreading going back, absolutely dreading it... she is in a class with kids one or two which have learning / behavioral issues too...[/QUOTE]

The point was if we want zero deaths on the road or near zero we can achieve it by bringing in ultra strict rules, yet we don't. Why don't we.

podgeandrodge

Akrasia wrote: »

The pubs aren’t open, it’s restaurants that are open, pubs that happen to also be restaurants are allowed to open too, as restaurants not pubs. The public health authorities have decided to refuse permission to allow people to spend hours in a pub surrounded by hundreds of other people. It’s 90 minutes in a restaurant with a max of 50 other people in the premises together

The fact that lots of pubs are taking the piss
Is not the fault of expert advise,

The only reason masks are not required in restaurants or cafes is because you can’t eat or drink while wearing a mask. You can however walk and piss while wearing a mask so it is perfectly sensible to require people to wear masks while moving through large groups of people in an indoor setting

BTW if it takes you ‘literally 20 seconds’ to arrive at a restaurant, await to be seated, walk to your table, remove your coat and sit down, then you’re moving too fast you maniac, slow down

"pubs that happen to also be restaurants are allowed to open too, as restaurants not pubs"

No, they don't have to have been restaurants, only have to serve food.

"It’s 90 minutes in a restaurant with a max of 50 other people in the premises together"

No, 105 minutes, and only where they can't accommodate 2m distancing. And restaurants not subject to the 50 people rule (correct me if I am wrong).

"BTW if it takes you ‘literally 20 seconds’ to arrive at a restaurant, await to be seated, walk to your table, remove your coat and sit down, then you’re moving too fast you maniac, slow down"

Yep, in the pub I go to, literally 20 seconds to get shown to my table. It's amazing, but it works like this: I book a space earlier, arrive at the pub, greeted by barman, and shown to a table. Mind you, it might have taken 30 seconds one time now that you mention it, when the table was at the back.

ACitizenErased

The first Irish prisoner has tested positive in Dochas Women’s Prison, Dublin. Was in quarantine and tested upon arrival.

FintanMcluskey

Oranage2 wrote: »

People are so dense. This is a deadly contagious virus.

What virus are you talking about?

I was only aware of one where most cases are asymptomatic among those healthy enough to work

khalessi

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

What virus are you talking about?

I was only aware of one where most cases are asymptomatic among those healthy enough to work

Asymptomatic is fine for the person who has it, but they are working and unawre that they are spreading it as they are working.

niallo27

Strumms wrote: »

No, but we have driving legislation and punishments for individuals when they are broken. The law is a deterrent.

There can be no deterrent with schools. It’s going to purely end in disaster I think. If I was a teacher I’m quitting, not putting myself in harms way for a job.

I’ve just been talking on the phone to a friend of mine who is an SNA in a school, LOVES her job but dreading going back, absolutely dreading it... she is in a class with kids one or two which have learning / behavioral issues too...

She sounds lazy to me, wants to sit on her hole on full pay. I'm working through all this, I follow the rules, why can't she. Does she expect full pay for doing **** all.

Jinglejangle69

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

What virus are you talking about?

I was only aware of one where most cases are asymptomatic among those healthy enough to work

We will look back in 10 years and realise what a whole lot of fear mongering and hysteria this whole escapade was.

The amount of people that will die from undiagnosed cancer treatments etc because we all had to hide from a virus that is harmless to 99.7% of the worlds population.

podgeandrodge

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Another great clip.

https://youtu.be/wpCQRH5Uzzo

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/commentary-my-views-cloth-face-coverings-public-preventing-covid-19

Jinglejangle69

khalessi wrote: »

Asymptomatic is fine for the person who has it, but they are working and unawre that they are spreading it as they are working.

Bit like all the other viruses we live with so.

Oranage2

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Contagious yes.

Massive Killer, well the stats suggests it's not.

Guns kill a tiny percentage of the population so does that mean they're not dangerous?

Jinglejangle69

niallo27 wrote: »

She sounds lazy to me, wants to sit on her hole on full pay. I'm working through all this, I follow the rules, why can't she. Does she expect full pay for doing **** all.

If teachers don't want to go back fine.

Put them on job seekers.

I've worked all through this virus so they keep their full pay each week.

Are their lives and families more important than mine?

Jinglejangle69

Oranage2 wrote: »

Guns kill a tiny percentage of the population so does that mean they're not dangerous?

Yet they still manufacture them every day??

Some comparison:)

Strumms

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

We have all of that for covid.

How long do you think we can hide and keep kids hidden from a virus that kills 0.03% of the worlds population before we run out of money and resources to survive?

It’s not about keeping kids hidden, it’s about minimizing risk.

It’s about being resourceful, utilization of remote learning, utilization of guardian/parent in that regard in support. Yes 2020... parents needing to parent, shock, horror. It’s not ideal, this situation isn’t ideal so we need to get on with it...be flexible in our approach. But again, parents want their babysitters back.

Jinglejangle69

Strumms wrote: »

It’s not about keeping kids hidden, it’s about minimizing risk.

It’s about being resourceful, utilization of remote learning, utilization of guardian/parent in that regard in support. Yes 2020... parents needing to parent, shock, horror. It’s not ideal, this situation isn’t ideal so we need to get on with it...be flexible in our approach. But again, parents want their babysitters back.

And what about parents who have to work to, you know..

Keep the world going?

khalessi

niallo27 wrote: »

She sounds lazy to me, wants to sit on her hole on full pay. I'm working through all this, I follow the rules, why can't she. Does she expect full pay for doing **** all.

Doesn't sound lazy to me, she sounds worried and concerned, no wrose then HCW in March and April and still now that I am talking to. People are allowed express concerns. Well done working throught it but dont tell me that you have not once been concerned or not had proper PPe or restrictions in your workplace.

Jinglejangle69

19 people been treated in hospital for covid around the country.

Jesus I despair.

Micky 32

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

19 people been treated in hospital for covid around the country.

Jesus I despair.

According to some experts on here expect at least 500 in the next couple of weeks.

Loafing Oaf

Oranage2 wrote: »

Guns kill a tiny percentage of the population

niallo27

khalessi wrote: »

Doesn't sound lazy to me, she sounds worried and concerned, no wrose then HCW in March and April and still now that I am talking to. People are allowed express concerns. Well done working throught it but dont tell me that you have not once been concerned or not had proper PPe or restrictions in your workplace.

Our company is actually very strict, I'm happy to be working actually, I'm contracting so was worried I'd be let go. I'm more worried about providing for my family than the virus actually. I'm doing the simple things and I'm not fearful of the virus.

Loafing Oaf

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

How many schools are there in Germany. Tens of thousands I would guess.

41 in Berlin, something like 5% of schools there.

Oranage2

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Yet they still manufacture them every day??

Some comparison:)

In America they have to live with gun violence, we have many precautions to reduce the risk of gun violence

We can put safety precautions in to reduce the risk of this virus too, letting kids go back to school in the current form is not safe. It would like handing kids loaded guns and hoping the don't shoot up the school.

Strumms

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

And what about parents who have to work to, you know..

Keep the world going?

“Keep the world going”... I didn’t know that was the prime of indeed any responsibility of a parent as part of their daily regular lives but you live and learn. They should ALL be given a cape with a big ‘S’ on the back.

Right.

Parents who have accepted the responsibility of having children are primarily responsible for their welfare and wellbeing. That’s not even up for debate.

Martina1991

Woody79 wrote:

Why doesn't the government pay private companies like these to send out these new saliva test kits to every household in the country once a month.

Doesn't require a visit to a lab, kits are posted out and sent back to labs.

If the household doesn't do the test there is a financial penalty or even pay people to do tests or a reduction in TV licence?

Your link didn't work so i dont know what site you were on about.

1. Using a private company to do anything would cost a fortune. The HSE wouldn't have any control over their procedures, standards or accreditation.
2. Who's to say this "new test" is even reliable.
3. It would still require analysis at the same labs where swabs are being processed. We don't have the capacity to process an extra ~5 million tests a month.
4. People won't comply. A fine isn't much of a threat when people dont pay for their tv licenses in the first place.

DebDynamite

With regards the hospital numbers, someone posted a few days ago (may have been a quote from Philip Nolan, though I could be wrong), that although children are showing up in the stats as having been treated in hospital for Covid, no child had actually been hospitalised purely for Covid. In the majority of cases, they presented to hospital for a different reason and were routinely tested upon arrival and subsequently tested positive.

I wonder how many of those 19 currently in hospital fall under the same category?

xhomelezz

niallo27 wrote: »

She sounds lazy to me, wants to sit on her hole on full pay. I'm working through all this, I follow the rules, why can't she. Does she expect full pay for doing **** all.

Hitting new low on boards aren't you

Gerry Hatrick

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

9 people died on our roads last week.

Fun week leading into the roads this week...

1000s died of smoking related illness this year.

Fun week leading into shops legally selling cigarettes this week....

Weirdest post iv'e read on the forum thus far.

I know you've a point but i'll be darned if i know what it is

FintanMcluskey

Oranage2 wrote: »

Guns kill a tiny percentage of the population so does that mean they're not dangerous?

1.35 million die on the worlds roads each year.

Do the comparrison in your head