Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

lukas8888

polesheep wrote: »

It doesn't matter a damn what the county statistics are. It isn't the football or hurling championships. If there's a meat plant in a county then that county is likely to have cases. Having no cases in your county really is nothing to be proud of.

Leitrim also has a meat plant.

podgeandrodge

owlbethere wrote: »

Oh my god. I met someone. A local nonetheless. Well, she's adamant that the disposal masks are not disposal and they can be washed and hung up to dry. Do you know the blue surgical masks? They are flimsy blue paper type of masks. Her mask is so frayed now, there would be no protection whatsoever from it. I was able to see parts of her face where the mask was wearing down from the washes.

I mean like that's like rewashing condoms or washing disposable period pads. Christ almighty.

Some agencies and doctors have said this is ok, even if left aside for a couple of days so any viral particles on them would be dead.

https://news.yahoo.com/reuse-disposable-mask-yes-steps-192223361.html

ACitizenErased

lukas8888 wrote: »

Leitrim also has a meat plant.

Half of these people were claiming population density didn’t matter in the slightest back in April/May, I wouldn’t even bother arguing.

Wild Field 1831

Micky 32 wrote: »

There’s obviously a cohort on here who just want us all locked down indefinately to suit whatever agenda they have.

I don't think so. Who wants to live a restricted life? Serious question. We all want to meet people, have craic, have a drink, hug embrace. We all want to live. I think people are concerned about the infection. But they don't want to be locked up or have to wear masks shopping forever. And if you do you're probably suffering from depression and want to escape from the world. I hope anyone with such health problems a speedy recovery.

amandstu

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Some agencies and doctors have said this is ok, even if left aside for a couple of days so any viral particles on them would be dead.

https://news.yahoo.com/reuse-disposable-mask-yes-steps-192223361.html

Washing them is madness.(I do reuse them after 3 or more days if they are safely stored in a dry location of their own and then aired for half an hour in the sun)

Oranage2

What time are the figures out today?

seanb85

There seems to be a trend on this thread that anyone who suggests things aren't going great and the situation may have deteriorated are somehow pro-lockdown or eternal doom mongers, that isn't particularly fair.

Personally I am in no rush to return to lockdown. I accepted the first one as I knew our health service is massively under resourced and compared to many other countries had little to no capacity to cope. What I expected was the lockdown was to give us time, breathing room to get testing up to speed, get a really thorough tracing system in place. Maybe even do sewage testing to predict spikes. Be really thorough with workplaces and schools to make them as safe as possible. A high tech Korea style approach. And I thought that's the way to live with this.

But I've lost faith that we're capable of all that. We shouldn't be surprised by increases, but we should be worried by trends.

owlbethere

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Some agencies and doctors have said this is ok, even if left aside for a couple of days so any viral particles on them would be dead.

https://news.yahoo.com/reuse-disposable-mask-yes-steps-192223361.html

OK. Thanks I didn't know that. The mask I saw today was frayed. There were definitely light holes in parts of the mask. I'd say it was washed and dried and worn many times. Surely some cop on should come into play and throw it out after 2 or 3 or 4 wears.

smellyoldboot

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Galway is just as impressive as Cork.

Of course they've all got lovely infection rates....

spookwoman

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296873609412194313?s=20

Up to Wednesday

Thanks for that didn't know it was gavin reilly that was doing those, I saw one posted the other on here but nothing to say where it it had come from.
If posting posting other peoples work at least credit them.

BattleCorp

The protest in Dublin went well today. Full of idiots jammed together. Personally I'd love to have seen a JCB shove them all into the Liffey.

prunudo

fr336 wrote: »

Lockdown has lost its meaning. A lockdown isnt people being advised not to visit different households.

I'd agree with that, but who's to blame. The media or the mixed messaging coming from government. What happened in kildare, Offaly and Loais was never a lockdown yet labelled as one everywhere, not helped by the stupid lokdown hashtag either.
But I suppose local restrictions doesnt create enough fear or doom and gloom.

Martina1991

drunkmonkey wrote:

No more nose swabs? Why a saliva test for COVID-19 could be a 'game changer'

Its not necessarily a new test. Its a new protocol for saliva sample collection and preparation.

Still requires laboratory equipment and PCR.

El Weirdo

BattleCorp wrote: »

The protest in Dublin went well today. Full of idiots jammed together. Personally I'd love to have seen a JCB shove them all into the Liffey.

A JCB with a 5G antenna on it would be perfect for that job.

fritzelly

2 deaths
156 new cases

Benimar

156 cases

niallo27

owlbethere wrote: »

Oh my god. I met someone. A local nonetheless. Well, she's adamant that the disposal masks are not disposal and they can be washed and hung up to dry. Do you know the blue surgical masks? They are flimsy blue paper type of masks. Her mask is so frayed now, there would be no protection whatsoever from it. I was able to see parts of her face where the mask was wearing down from the washes.

I mean like that's like rewashing condoms or washing disposable period pads. Christ almighty.

This is everything that is wrong with us at the moment, did it really actually bother you. Its better than no mask. Are you really comparing it to used condoms.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1297210788969685000?s=20

fritzelly

Time for Dublin lockdown - if it means never having to see MM or SD again

Atlantic Dawn

Wonder when the deaths were?

ACitizenErased

55 in Dublin, 36 in Kildare, 12 in Tipperary, 9 in Limerick, 7 in Kilkenny, 6 in Waterford and the remaining 31 cases are in Carlow, Clare, Cork, Donegal, Galway, Kerry, Laois, Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow.

ACitizenErased

81 are men / 75 are women

71% are under 45 years of age

68 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case

15 cases have been identified as community transmission

wadacrack

This is getting very worrying now. Society as a whole in Ireland has lost respect for the virus.

Gael23

ACitizenErased wrote: »

81 are men / 75 are women

71% are under 45 years of age

68 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case

15 cases have been identified as community transmission

What about the rest

Wtf..tons of info to bash under 45s..what age were the dead??. Is that so hard report.

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

55 in Dublin, 36 in Kildare, 12 in Tipperary, 9 in Limerick, 7 in Kilkenny, 6 in Waterford and the remaining 31 cases are in Carlow, Clare, Cork, Donegal, Galway, Kerry, Laois, Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow.

21/26 counties ACE. That's significantly more than half the country effected.

Donegal, Monaghan..Ulster.

Mayo, Ros, Galway.. Connacht.

Atlantic Dawn

wadacrack wrote: »

This is getting very worrying now. Society as a whole in Ireland has lost respect for the virus.

I think it's more a case of they can see the facts and figures and realise the risks are being overplayed to the detriment of society and the economy.

Non solum non ambulabit

Gael23 wrote: »

What about the rest

Unknown at present

Wild Field 1831

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

21/26 counties ACE. That's significantly more than half the country effected.

Seems very widespread

Blondini

wadacrack wrote: »

This is getting very worrying now. Society as a whole in Ireland has lost respect for the virus.

We are not so secretly heading towards herd immunity.

Wait until you see the numbers when the gas chambers schools open.

What Username Guidelines

fritzelly wrote: »

Time for Dublin lockdown - if it means never having to see MM or SD again

As someone from Dublin, if that's the goal of the lockdown, sign me up.

Just hang on for a few hours though, because I've got a babysitter for the first time since February and I'm going for a few substantial meals.

ACitizenErased

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

21/26 counties ACE. That's significantly more than half the country effected.

Donegal, Monaghan..Ulster.

Mayo, Ros, Galway.. Connacht.

Mayo may have 1 case, call the army in
Do you’ve nothing better to do than argue with me?

KrustyUCC

spookwoman wrote: »

Thanks for that didn't know it was gavin reilly that was doing those, I saw one posted the other on here but nothing to say where it it had come from.
If posting posting other peoples work at least credit them.

The tweet shows up as to who it was from but fair enough for the future

I saw the 6.01 news during the week and the news reader asked that dinosaur what the ages were of the dead and just blatantly barged through covid test positivity per area etc and blanked the death age.

mirrorwall14

What are the Saturday numbers like normally?

DebDynamite

Protest today got nasty

https://extra.ie/2020/08/22/news/irish-news/fight-anti-mask-protest-dublin

Thierry12

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Seems very widespread

Its gone mad

Just in time for school

Wonder what odds paddy power have for the schools

ACitizenErased

Time to log off I think

Gael23

It’s fair to say we are doomed

ACitizenErased

Gael23 wrote: »

It’s fair to say we are doomed

Ah jaysus

Gerry Hatrick

Jaysus. Serious trouble ahead.

Oranage2

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ah jaysus

He's our only hope at present

giveitholly

We are fooked!!!!!!!

Atlantic Dawn

Gael23 wrote: »

It’s fair to say we are doomed

Yes October's budget will be the start of the death of this country's prosperity for 10 years plus.

Plumbthedepths

wadacrack wrote: »

This is getting very worrying now. Society as a whole in Ireland has lost respect for the virus.

Rubbish. Although if you wish to view it through the behaviour of the clowns in Clifton Wednesday you could be forgiven for making such a baseless generalisation.

polesheep

lukas8888 wrote: »

So by your logic if Dublin reports no new cases for 7 days it is not relevant.

Of course it has a relevance, but I won't come on saying Dublin is doing great. G'wan the boys. The cheerleading and back slapping is childish.

Non solum non ambulabit

Blondini wrote: »

We are not so secretly heading towards herd immunity.

Wait until you see the numbers when the gas chambers schools open.

Idiotic statement

branie2

May the two people who died rest in peace

polesheep

lukas8888 wrote: »

Leitrim also has a meat plant.

Grow up.

speckle

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d rather not argue with people who ignore half the country, but that’s just me. Imagine how people in COVID-free Leitrim feel :rolleyes:

Or Kerry with its low cases and 'half' the country holidaying there... as well as international tourists from abroad with no full time respiratory consultant all this time in their hospital, with narrow streets and boreens and restaurants, holiday homes etc full until October...



What are they doing right? And it cant only be masks because they were doing ok before they became mandatory and I don't think they are less social people than elsewhere...very interconnected communities. Maybe better testing and trace turnaround? Less medical intervention in early cases i.e. ventilators? Older hospital with actual windows that open? Tiny intensive care????

Maybe they have some sort of immunity from previous viruses, or maybe a lot of mild cases or missed case during the early days. mmmh Cork had early community cases too...

Maybe some epidemiologist (did I spell it right this time? ) could check it out alongside Leitrim and Cork


We just need to see what as a country we are doing right and change what we are doing wrong or badly... and explain it to us the citizens clearly and the rationale behind it(I envy other countries websites)

The government and public health seem like they are caught in a well meaning black hole or alternative universe, going around in a string theory loop...covid fatigue?...


I am starting to think we should treat most cases like we did TB pre antibiotics, sunshine/Vit D, fresh air, quarantine (at home or Florence wards/Peamount), healthy food, and proper cough sneeze and spit etiquette with right handkerchief/tissue disposal.


No masks except hospitals and caring for those who are ill or vulnerable. We then might be able to afford better grade masks that protect them from us. Doesn't stop anybody from wearing cloth ones if they want too.

Annoys me that we get cloth masks and the suposed country of origin seem to have surgical masks for its population when needed and we produce them here...make sense of that...


With proper protection (e.g shop hours/delievery/mass times/strict visit rules nursing homes/even maybe yes even special times in rural pubs etc) of the most vulnerable especially those under 70s who are forgotten and let the rest of us get on with it and allow those who are older to choose that risk also until we have enough people with antibodies or treatments etc

Fast saliva tests for kids/workers/factorys healthcare workers to make sure they don't pass it to grand/parents or other high risk individuals.



We need a proper plan.. not to be chasing our tails or fire fighting. An we shouldn't be dividing ourselves into camps either here online, or in real life. We are all after the same thing balancing saving lives, living life to the full while acknowledging that we are not immortal and nothing in life is risk free or easily won.

ok rant over... thank you anyone who reads and understands my ramblings