Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

s1ippy

This is like having to wait a week after something suspenseful happens in a TV show except completely sh!t craic.

Atlantic Dawn

On RTE News now, schools which have not been attended since March are getting deep cleaned, it's like The Millenium Bug again, throw money and plenty of it.

Spanish Eyes

Havent heard anything from the HSE boss lately.

Hopefully he and his team are in lockdown planning for the Winter surge of flu and Covid. I’ll forgive him if that’s the case.

ACitizenErased

Really great piece from Rob O'Hanrahan.
https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1295399256006840326?s=20

Arghus

El Sueño wrote: »

There are circa 20 people in hospital in the whole country.

Obviously things aren't rosy but at the same time people need to get a grip.

These numbers will rise.

froog

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There is an ignore feature on the forum, you are welcome to use it on me.

why don't you actually listen to someone who knows what they're talking about for once?

jesus wept you kids today.

feelings

About 50 cases today I reckon.

Rambling Man

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Havent heard anything from the HSE boss lately.

Hopefully he and his team are in lockdown planning for the Winter surge of flu and Covid. I’ll forgive him if that’s the case.

He could be in Italy

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There is an ignore feature on the forum, you are welcome to use it on me.

That's another example of a fairly inaccurate statement. You can use the function but as you post so much you're going to be constantly quoted. You're inescapable!

ACitizenErased

froog wrote: »

why don't you actually listen to someone who knows what they're talking about for once?

jesus wept you kids today.

This post actually made me laugh. You are incredibly condescending.

ninebeanrows

froog wrote: »

why don't you actually listen to someone who knows what they're talking about for once?

jesus wept you kids today.

Cannot understand why you have an issue with possibly the most independent and informative poster on this article thread

Spanish Eyes

Rambling Man wrote: »

He could be in Italy

LOL, the Indo would have him for breakfast if so.

owlbethere

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

On RTE News now, schools which have not been attended since March are getting deep cleaned, it's like The Millenium Bug again, throw money and plenty of it.

What an absolute pointless exercise at this point in time. Its window dressing and that's all it is. Trying to ease any fears parents might have about going back to school by saying deep cleaning. That's all it is. A deep clean would give the impression that they are disinfecting the area. The virus doesn't live long outside the body. There has been no school since March. I can safely say there's no virus in classrooms.

ACitizenErased

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Cannot understand why you have an issue with possibly the most independent and informative poster on this article thread

Because I don't agree with his/her's anti-youth agenda. And yes, it is quite clearly an agenda.

ExMachina1000

Does anyone know what time the press conference is on tv this evening

is_that_so

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Havent heard anything from the HSE boss lately.

Hopefully he and his team are in lockdown planning for the Winter surge of flu and Covid. I’ll forgive him if that’s the case.

He talks when he has to and he's a whole lot smarter than the former Bord Failte chap! The HSE is not all about COVID-19.

stevek93

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Does anyone know what time the press conference is on tv this evening

It’s not

expectationlost

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Does anyone know what time the press conference is on tv this evening

there is none, will be tmw after cabinet

BorneTobyWilde

Only reason for the outbreak at Mushroom plant was because there wasn't mush room to social distance.

Arghus

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Does anyone know what time the press conference is on tv this evening

No press conference. There's a meeting between NPHET and government ongoing at the moment.

is_that_so

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Does anyone know what time the press conference is on tv this evening

Apparently they are still meeting so there may not be one, just numbers.

Wild Field 1831

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Cannot understand why you have an issue with possibly the most independent and informative poster on this article thread

Is he though?

They are mostly publicly available stats. He's so biased on one side that it renders a lot of what he posts useless.

He throws out positive platitudes that are popular with a lot of people who want life to return to 2019 lifestyles. Of course we all want that, but constantly downplaying Covid won't make it so.

mirrorwall14

owlbethere wrote: »

What an absolute pointless exercise at this point in time. Its window dressing and that's all it ease. Trying to ease any fears parents might have about going back to school by saying deep cleaning. That's all it is. A deep clean would give the impression that they are disinfecting the area. The virus doesn't live long outside the body. There has been no school since March. I can safely say there's no virus in classrooms.

Hey as a second level teacher my classroom has never been properly deep cleaned in its life I don’t think. The best cleaning it gets is from me. I’m doing well if a Hoover is run on it once a fortnight. I’ll take a deep clean if it’s going lol

Icsics

Numbers later this eve

bodhrandude

So no cases or deaths today, that's a first.

Lyle

expectationlost wrote: »

there is none, will be tmw after cabinet

So we don't even find out the NPHET meeting details until tomorrow evening to find out what was discussed and what measures might be happening?

Goldengirl

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There is an ignore feature on the forum, you are welcome to use it on me.

Surprised and disappointed with you there!
Standard answer for those who don't want/ can't deal with any disagreement.
Fact is I will agree or disagree with whomever I want on this forum, as long as we keep it civil, and use the ignore on trolls only.

drunkmonkey

Goldengirl wrote: »

And I am quite aware too as I work in the HSE, in Dublin, where we were /and are pretty busy through this.
I know you are not ignorant ACE, but this constant down playing of this rise in infection, is pissing me off.

He can speak for himself but they need to be viewed with the new cases entering hospitals, there doesn't appear to be many and this is being mirrored across Europe. We're losing our mind about the rise in cases when it's the rise in hospital admissions as a direct result of Covid we should be basing our reactions on.
We're all about to get some penalty about Berlin bar as a nation, it's not right punishing us all, completely knee jerk reactions.

We have that 1 case in a meat factory now, blanket testing for everyone there, they'll find more cases, they won't necessarily mean a rise in hospital admissions.
We need to look at all the data and not just some it and make our decisions then.

ACitizenErased

Goldengirl wrote: »

Surprised and disappointed with you there!
Standard answer for those who don't want/ can't deal with any disagreement.
Fact is I will agree or disagree with whomever I want on this forum, as long as we keep it civil, and use the ignore on trolls only.

I'm not going to argue over a hospital you don't work in, you either believe me or you don't. You said I piss you off, which in and of itself should be ignore-worthy

ExMachina1000

Arghus wrote: »

No press conference. There's a meeting between NPHET and government ongoing at the moment.

Is it expected that they will make an announcement regarding the outcome of the meeting tonight or will also be tomorrow?

Zardaz

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Only reason for the outbreak at Mushroom plant was because there wasn't mush room to social distance.

I bet you're a fungi at parties.

gmisk

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Is it expected that they will make an announcement regarding the outcome of the meeting tonight or will also be tomorrow?

I think tomorrow when it is brought to cabinet

fleet_admiral

Zardaz wrote: »

I bet you're a fungi at parties.

Ah, that old chestnut

ChikiChiki

Lyle wrote: »

So we don't even find out the NPHET meeting details until tomorrow evening to find out what was discussed and what measures might be happening?

Yes, because it is up to Cabinet whether to act or not on the recommendations. As it should be.

There may be some big decisions so no point creating a public furore which may create biases at a time where doing the right thing is most important and not what joe public or the local publican thinks should be done.

Today's meeting started at 3pm and I think will be a very long one, well into the evening.

screamer

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Is it expected that they will make an announcement regarding the outcome of the meeting tonight or will also be tomorrow?

I read the next press briefing will be Thursday... that can’t be right surely

Arghus

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Is it expected that they will make an announcement regarding the outcome of the meeting tonight or will also be tomorrow?

Haven't a clue. But if there isn't some change made to the current restrictions I'll be amazed.

froog

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Because I don't agree with his/her's anti-youth agenda. And yes, it is quite clearly an agenda.

there are plenty of posters your age i have no issue with. it's just you to be honest.

i mean right this minute you are fighting with a lady who actually works in the HSE. like i said why don't you actually listen to people sometimes, you might learn something.

Arghus

screamer wrote: »

I read the next press briefing will be Thursday... that can’t be right surely

Expect a many headed press conference during the week before then.

Tenzor07

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Yes, because it is up to Cabinet whether to act or not on the recommendations. As it should be..

Varadkar didn't go exactly with NPHET's recommendations last time, and opened Bar/restaurants...

..... that won't happen again....


FFFG will follow the NPHET laws "guidelines" to the letter now.

ninebeanrows

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Is he though?

They are mostly publicly available stats. He's so biased on one side that it renders a lot of what he posts useless.

He throws out positive platitudes that are popular with a lot of people who want life to return to 2019 lifestyles. Of course we all want that, but constantly downplaying Covid won't make it so.

WTF!?

I actually cannot understand what type of people are behind hating on his or her posts

Do we think they are journo or TD?

Are they too dominant in the thread ?

What is so mad about his or her posts? Is it the facts or a really slight preference For a non militant reaction to covid that annoys people?

I’m actually confused


I would have thought Citizen was actually more conservative than the average

ACitizenErased

froog wrote: »

there are plenty of posters your age i have no issue with. it's just you to be honest.

i mean right this minute you are fighting with a lady who actually works in the HSE. like i said why don't you actually listen to people sometimes, you might learn something.

I have multiple family members who work in the HSE, one of whom is involved in surge planning for the CUH, as I previously said. Yet another poster who fits your agenda is more trustworthy. Right, you can stop replying to me, good evening.

GooglePlus

They must be taking a while to decide what number to release today and what cases to hold back on.

ACitizenErased

Fantastic quote by Rob O'Hanrahan on Joe.ie.

The loudest we have heard from government in recent weeks has been after a 20-second clip of a wild brunch in a Dublin city centre pub went viral. The actions in that video were wrong, infuriating and downright disrespectful to every sacrifice made by Irish people in recent months. But they are an isolated incident. They did not cause repeated outbreaks in Direct Provision Centres or meat-processing plants. They did not lock down Laois, Offaly and Kildare. They are just an easier target.

https://www.joe.ie/politics/have-you-seen-these-people-701968

froog

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

WTF!?

I actually cannot understand what type of people are behind hating on his or her posts

Do we think they are journo or TD?

Are they too dominant in the thread ?

What is so mad about his or her posts? Is it the facts or the a really very slight preference or a non militant reaction to covid that annoys people?

I’m actually confused


I would have thought Citizen was actually more conservative than the average

constantly downplaying COVID with misleading and incorrect data is actually dangerous. this is the reason people have an issue with him.

SteHam

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I have multiple family members who work in the HSE, one of whom is involved in surge planning for the CUH, as I previously said. Yet another poster who fits your agenda is more trustworthy. Right, you can stop replying to me, good evening.

Surge planning or anything of that sort is done via external consultation, not internal HSE planning. The HSE will make the decision based on the guidelines set out by external experts.

What exactly does your relative do?

Oranage2

GooglePlus wrote: »

They must be taking a while to decide what number to release today and what cases to hold back on.

Keep it low today and have more restrictions put in place tomorrow followed by a massive number to scare the people into compliance?

ACitizenErased

SteHam wrote: »

Surge planning or anything of that sort is done via external consultation, not internal HSE planning. The HSE will make the decision based on the guidelines set out by external experts.

What exactly does your relative do?

Surge planning for COVID is done through the maintenance departments at hospitals (of which a relative of mine leads), using sub-contractors. I can name companies who have provided equipment and framework over PM if you wish, it would be inappropriate to do so here.

Non solum non ambulabit

froog wrote: »

constantly downplaying COVID with misleading and incorrect data is actually dangerous. this is the reason people have an issue with him.

Funny how he always gets abuse for just republishing HSPC and HSE data on this thread.

Amazing how that has now been twisted in misleading data. Fairplay to you. Very perculiar mindset.

caveat emptor

GooglePlus wrote: »

They must be taking a while to decide what number to release today and what cases to hold back on.

Yeah exactly. I’d say low number today, some announcement about further measures later etc then tomorrow ....
Bam ! Big number.

Everyone then goes, ‘wow They were so right so have done x’
‘What fine leaders we have’

While no one cares to notice the data published is two days old.

stevek93

Figures?