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FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

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    #3482
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    No they don't. They have to tolerate them, once they are given an option they don't. Scrambling around making up things doesn't change that. No party want anything to do with SF North or South of the border, just confirms the issue is with SF and not everyone else

    On one thread you are vocal about a United Ireland, then on the next you complain when parties in Ireland try to build bridges. Make up your mind.

    If they were truly building bridges they'd be pally with both the DUP and SF. SF are literally in the same room as them ffs. FG are sidling up to the DUP to try damage Sinn Fein. That's all there is to it.


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    #3483
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    Excellent example of #politicofhatred

    FG refusing to talk to SF preferring to invite a racist from the the DUP a party that are against equality for gays, climate change deniers and creationists.
    Agreed.


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    #3484
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    McMurphy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/DrHaroldParody/status/1359618236929765378?s=19

    Brilliant :)


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    #3485
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Or white-shirts marching in military formation beside a coffin of a criminal thug decorated with a tricolour in the middle of a pandemic would be classed as "carry on like savages" to an awful lot of people.

    What colour shirt do you wear to funerals?

    0_JS213951062.jpg

    I think you are being overly harsh and insensitive to the Horkan family.


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    #3486
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    James Brown wrote: »
    What happened was FG invited the DUP to their private member conference. It was suggested it might be FG reaching out to the DUP. As you followed on suggesting it was mature and moving on...I suggested this was complete bollo and as you mention above, because FG wouldn't talk to SF a party actually in their own jurisdiction. Even Donaldson of the DUP said FF/FG were hypocrites.
    As you learned the other day the DUP deal with SF as do others.

    Really? attacking other parties and people is not really how adults work. Another great example is Pearse Doherty foaming at the mouth while roaring at Leo today.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55364748
    Seems like a fairly toxic relationship between SF and DUP, FF, FG, Greens etc etc etc


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    #3487
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,167 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    James Brown wrote: »
    FG refusing to talk to SF preferring to invite a racist from the the DUP a party that are against equality for gays, climate change deniers and creationists.
    Agreed.

    Maybe they will do an about face on those beliefs when it's politically expedient to do so?
    On the Claire Byrne Show or Nolan Live?


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    #3488
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    "Up the Ra" is a celebration of decades of murder and terrorism of people in your own community by a gang of thugs. That is why we condemn it.

    Why you excuse it is your business.

    It's a celebration of the IRA. The clue is in the words.
    Depends on your opinion of the IRA I'd imagine. It's no different to 'God save the queen' IMO.
    I wouldn't be shouting either for similar reasons.


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    #3489
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    Really? attacking other parties and people is not really how adults work. Another great example is Pearse Doherty foaming at the mouth while roaring at Leo today.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55364748
    Seems like a fairly toxic relationship between SF and DUP, FF, FG, Greens etc etc etc

    You keep missing it.
    Let's stick with one thing until you get it.
    It's unlikely FG were reaching out to build bridges with the DUP for any greater good or mature moving on when they won't talk with SF. Why?
    Hint: one party might take (more) seats off them.


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    #3490
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    James Brown wrote: »
    You keep missing it.
    Let's stick with one thing until you get it.
    It's unlikely FG were reaching out to build bridges with the DUP for any greater good or mature moving on when they won't talk with SF. Why?
    Hint: one party might take (more) seats off them.

    Ahh condescending posts now. You have no idea what FG reasons are for talking to DUP but of course you take the hatred view.

    Didn't you go around with the name of Leo partner as your boards name? what was that about?


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    #3491
    eireholidays
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭eireholidays


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    Really? attacking other parties and people is not really how adults work. Another great example is Pearse Doherty foaming at the mouth while roaring at Leo today.

    Seems like a fairly toxic relationship between SF and DUP, FF, FG, Greens etc etc etc

    Hahahahah FG twitter page has spent the last year attacking another party and its people.


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    #3492
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    eireholidays wrote: »
    Hahahahah FG twitter page has spent the last year attacking another party and its people.

    Can a twitter account foam at the mouth?


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    #3493
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    Ahh condescending posts now. You have no idea what FG reasons are for talking to DUP but of course you take the hatred view.

    Didn't you go around with the name of Leo partner as your boards name? what was that about?

    Hatred? You keep throwing out these overly emotional claims.
    If you refuse to or can't discuss items, maybe don't chime in?


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    #3494
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    James Brown wrote: »
    If they were truly building bridges they'd be pally with both the DUP and SF. SF are literally in the same room as them ffs. FG are sidling up to the DUP to try damage Sinn Fein. That's all there is to it.

    FG understand nationalists, they are a nationalist party, so they don't need to talk to SF.

    What they do need to do is reach across to the other side in a bi-partisan way. Frankly, it is something that SF have refused to do for years and should have been doing.


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    #3495
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    FG understand nationalists, they are a nationalist party, so they don't need to talk to SF.

    What they do need to do is reach across to the other side in a bi-partisan way. Frankly, it is something that SF have refused to do for years and should have been doing.

    I don't believe FG understand their own countrymen/women or in the least don't care what they think.

    SF and the DUP are part of a power sharing government of sorts. Paisley and McGuinness made great strides with each other.
    If FG won't cross the room in their own government building it's simply not credible they are doing so with a party in another jurisdiction. Like everything FG do, it's about attacking shinners.


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    #3496
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,167 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    FG understand nationalists, they are a nationalist party, so they don't need to talk to SF.

    What they do need to do is reach across to the other side in a bi-partisan way. Frankly, it is something that SF have refused to do for years and should have been doing.

    FG have LESS support than SF. I think they are doing 'nationalism' wrong.

    FG are not 'reaching' they are linking with the DUP and both attack SF.


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    #3497
    eireholidays
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭eireholidays


    blanch152 wrote: »
    FG understand nationalists, they are a nationalist party, so they don't need to talk to SF.

    What they do need to do is reach across to the other side in a bi-partisan way. Frankly, it is something that SF have refused to do for years and should have been doing.

    Good job Sinn Fein dont need to worry about talking to FG now since they are 1 of the big 2 after the election. FF TDs all making noises that they would talk to SF after the next election = Bye Bye FG

    The people showed what they think of FG in Govt.


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    #3498
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    eireholidays wrote: »
    Good job Sinn Fein dont need to worry about talking to FG now since they are 1 of the big 2 after the election. FF TDs all making noises that they would talk to SF after the next election = Bye Bye FG

    The people showed what they think of FG in Govt.

    When did FF say they would talk to SF?


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    #3499
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    James Brown wrote: »
    I don't believe FG understand their own countrymen/women or in the least don't care what they think.

    SF and the DUP are part of a power sharing government of sorts. Paisley and McGuinness made great strides with each other.
    If FG won't cross the room in their own government building it's simply not credible they are doing so with a party in another jurisdiction. Like everything FG do, it's about attacking shinners.

    Was those great strides shutting the power sharing down for 3 years? :P
    Most countries would describe that as a disaster


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    #3500
    eireholidays
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭eireholidays


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    When did FF say they would talk to SF?

    FF TDs would not exclude Sinn Féin coalition after next election
    A year after the general election, Martin indicates a sea-change in FF stance
    Mon, Feb 8, 2021 The Irish Times


    Almost 20 Fianna Fáil TDs have said they would not rule out holding coalition talks with Sinn Féin after the next general election.

    It comes after Taoiseach Micheál Martin appeared to soften his stance on the prospect of Fianna Fáil negotiating with Mary Lou McDonald’s party, suggesting it “may evolve depending on policy”.

    Jim O’Callaghan – Dublin Bay South
    Barry Cowen – Laois-Offaly
    John Lahart – Dublin South West
    Joe Flaherty – Longford-Westmeath:
    James Browne, Minister of State for Justice
    John McGuinness, a Carlow-Kilkenny TD. James O’Connor
    Willie O’Dea – Limerick City
    Pádraig O’Sullivan – Cork North Central:
    Niamh Smyth, Cavan-Monaghan TD.
    Robert Troy, Minister of State for Trade.
    Cathal Crowe – Clare:

    All listed in the Irish Times

    Gavin Reilly from Virgin Media News on twitter also stating the other day numerous FF TDs have told him the same


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    #3501
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Dissident republicans amassed a higher vote in the 6 counties than FG,mere days after lyra mckee got killed.....

    Tell us again,how commerating black and tans shows understanding of nationlism



    Meanwhile on planet earth sinn fein are literally in power sharing with em in stormont


    If your going to lie and bluster,try remain somewhere in realms of reality


    There was never a commemoration of black and tans planned, that is a lie.


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    #3502
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    blanch152 wrote: »
    There was never a commemoration of black and tans planned, that is a lie.


    Just their buddies the RIC.


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    #3503
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    Was those great strides shutting the power sharing down for 3 years? :P
    Most countries would describe that as a disaster

    Off again are we?
    When your nonsense is called out you change the topic. It's tiresome.


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    #3504
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    eireholidays wrote: »
    FF TDs would not exclude Sinn Féin coalition after next election
    A year after the general election, Martin indicates a sea-change in FF stance
    Mon, Feb 8, 2021 The Irish Times


    Almost 20 Fianna Fáil TDs have said they would not rule out holding coalition talks with Sinn Féin after the next general election.

    It comes after Taoiseach Micheál Martin appeared to soften his stance on the prospect of Fianna Fáil negotiating with Mary Lou McDonald’s party, suggesting it “may evolve depending on policy”.

    Jim O’Callaghan – Dublin Bay South
    Barry Cowen – Laois-Offaly
    John Lahart – Dublin South West
    Joe Flaherty – Longford-Westmeath:
    James Browne, Minister of State for Justice
    John McGuinness, a Carlow-Kilkenny TD. James O’Connor
    Willie O’Dea – Limerick City
    Pádraig O’Sullivan – Cork North Central:
    Niamh Smyth, Cavan-Monaghan TD.
    Robert Troy, Minister of State for Trade.
    Cathal Crowe – Clare:

    All listed in the Irish Times

    Gavin Reilly from Virgin Media News on twitter also stating the other day numerous FF TDs have told him the same

    That's an awful blow for a few lads on here that said they would never vote SF if they plan on joining with FF.
    It seems that what SF want as well https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/clear-shift-in-fianna-f%C3%A1il-s-position-towards-sinn-f%C3%A9in-eoin-%C3%B3-broin-says-1.4480049
    What are they going to do now?


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    #3505
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    That's an awful blow for a few lads on here that said they would never vote SF if they plan on joining with FF.
    It seems that what SF want as well https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/clear-shift-in-fianna-f%C3%A1il-s-position-towards-sinn-f%C3%A9in-eoin-%C3%B3-broin-says-1.4480049
    What are they going to do now?

    Is this you conceding you were wrong?


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    #3506
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Deleted User wrote: »
    There was....black and tans are/were part of the ric


    Why lie like??

    They were set up separately.


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    #3507
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    James Brown wrote: »
    Is this you conceding you were wrong?
    James Brown wrote: »
    Off again are we?
    When your nonsense is called out you change the topic. It's tiresome.
    James Brown wrote: »
    Hatred? You keep throwing out these overly emotional claims.
    If you refuse to or can't discuss items, maybe don't chime in?

    You are more than welcome to ignore my posts instead of a running commentary about me and not the subject. Thank you


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    #3508
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    blanch152 wrote: »
    They were set up separately.


    I'll Godwin this thread Blanch,


    .... as were the Nazi's & the Wehrmacht, and although there were some 'decent skin's, overall they were sadistic bastards.


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    #3509
    eireholidays
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭eireholidays


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    That's an awful blow for a few lads on here that said they would never vote SF if they plan on joining with FF.
    It seems that what SF want as well
    What are they going to do now?

    I couldn't give a ****e myself. I just want people running the country for the people and not for their mates.


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    #3510
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    You are more than welcome to ignore my posts instead of a running commentary about me and not the subject. Thank you

    TBF, you have a point. Best of luck in your exams. See you next time.


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    #3511
    CrazyFather1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    eireholidays wrote: »
    I couldn't give a ****e myself. I just want people running the country for the people and not for their mates.

    We have pages and pages of SF supporters insulting the FF and FG party, now FF make an indication they might join with SF and the same people are rejoicing.
    If you watch the video earlier on of Pearse he was trying to intervene with a private company for one of his mates running a business in Donegal...>Gives a good view doesn't it


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