FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

Suckit

markodaly wrote: »

My party?
The Orange Order has a political wing now?

:P:P

Aren't it's roots embedded in politics?? With all the UU groups deciding everything, and eventually people got sick of it.

Weepsie

FrancieBrady wrote: »

ASTI have walked from talks again. Not good for Foley...her department is having a torrid time since she got the gig.

ASTI walk from talks with absolutely everybody.

She is having a torrid time, but Asti walking away is never a sign of anything but them doing what they do

markodaly

The accusation was that the OO had a political wing in the DUP like SF is the political wing of the PIRA.

Which is course is a-factual nonsense.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

The accusation was that the OO had a political wing in the DUP like SF is the political wing of the PIRA.

Which is course is a-factual nonsense.

Just a co-incidence that they are all Unionists too I suppose. Just a co-incidence every Prime Minister of NI was an Orangeman too.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled....etc etc.

*SF never made a secret of their connection to the IRA btw.

smurgen

Christ FG councillor in Cork saying all lives matter a saying of the far right in the US? Not a good look it must be said

https://twitter.com/vicky_langan/status/1359924713557028872?s=19

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Just a co-incidence that they are all Unionists too I suppose. Just a co-incidence every Prime Minister of NI was an Orangeman too.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled....etc etc.

*SF never made a secret of their connection to the IRA btw.

There is only one Unionist party?

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Nice, comparing the funeral of a Garda to a meeting of the KKK.


And you call yourself an Irish Nationalists and Republican!?
You wouldn't even know the concept if it hit you in the face.
You confuse hatred for FG/Leo for being a nationalist.

Nope. Nice try. Dishonest but a try.
Comparing it to the Storey funeral. It was you I quoted.

You don't like getting corrected do you? You should be use to it by now.

James Brown

BiggJim wrote: »

As much as they love flying the nationalist flag, the majority of SF voters are scroungers who never worked a day in their lives. They simply want even more for nothing.

Pretty ignorant comment.
Where do you think SF got the votes from?
Think about it.

Another of the many similarities between the Republican Trump Party and FG. Both promise rewards for the working man/woman while they **** on the working man/woman. Then their followers trained to blame those less well off and minorities. Works every time. Blaming the opposition for the outcome of their own party's policies. Pretty sad.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

There is only one Unionist party?

In reality, yes, moderate, belligerent and more belligerent. All three connected to the OO and Orangism.
FG favour the middle one.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

In reality, yes, moderate, belligerent and more belligerent. All three connected to the OO and Orangism.
FG favour the middle one.

Your reality maybe, not in the real world.

We have the UUP, DUP, TUV and PUP
4 diffrerent Unionist party.
Not one, but 4

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

Your reality maybe, not in the real world.

We have the UUP, DUP, TUV and PUP
4 diffrerent Unionist party.
Not one, but 4

Great. You found another one.

Plenty of choice for your next conference.

Tokyo

Mod: James Brown - wind it in. You're skating far too close to playing the man rather than the ball. Next instance will result in a threadban.

CrazyFather1

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Own it mark. You just compared a funeral to a KKK rally/parade. Rather than admit that we have an Order on this island that is religiously bigoted, culturally suprematist, homophobic just as the KKK are, and that your party FG, links with it's political wing - the DUP without a shred of shame. Your party even has members that are proud of their association with it.
The KKK had that access and privilege once as well...hence the photo.

You brought the KKK into the thread, only you know why the hell anyone would want to?
That's the sort of politics you want to discuss #politicofhatred
I agreed a bigoted attitude exist but from what I can see it ain't coming from the Orange order

CrazyFather1

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Great. You found another one.

Plenty of choice for your next conference.

Hopefully, all the Government parties should invite one of the Northern Ireland unionist parties to conferences. Have an open discussion.

CrazyFather1

Deleted User wrote: »

Arlene foster even admits its bigoted?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/reject-bigotry-foster-asks-orange-order-members-on-scottish-visit-1.3550322%3fmode=amp

Yes and fair play to her. It shows like most people the Orange order is moving on and not stuck in the past. Sadly to say other have not moved on.

CrazyFather1

Deleted User wrote: »

Arlene foster even admits its bigoted?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/reject-bigotry-foster-asks-orange-order-members-on-scottish-visit-1.3550322%3fmode=amp


COI reverends in cork dont want em about and openly admit they are bigots

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-10080902.html

An article from 2005? desperation trying to find that

CrazyFather1

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it true you can be kicked out for marrying a catholic,but not for murdering one??

Another fine example of fake news and #politicofhatred

UDAWINNER

BiggJim wrote: »

As much as they love flying the nationalist flag, the majority of SF voters are scroungers who never worked a day in their lives. They simply want even more for nothing.

so the party that got got the highest percentage vote in the country is the the party of scroungers in a time when we had full employment. Make sense:D
have a day off will ya.

CrazyFather1

Deleted User wrote: »

agh yes,COI reverends from co down,clearly know nothing about the orange order in yous eyes



How or why is a organisation,yous claim is about moving on,main focus and raison etre about a battle 300 plus years ago?

It's an article from 2005, that is 16 years ago. As I said some people are living in the past.

What is the 4th of July about?
I can start naming out all the national celebrations but I think you might have figured out the point

CrazyFather1

UDAWINNER wrote: »

so the party that got got the highest percentage vote in the country is the the party of scroungers in a time when we had full employment. Make sense:D
have a day off will ya.

You do realise not every single person in Ireland voted?
Plus Ireland will never have full employment.
I am not saying every voter for SF was a scrounger either

McMurphy

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Except, the polls say otherwise - 1/4 of the electorate are not unemployed, neither are the bulk of 20-50 year olds - yet they vote for SF

FFG give scroungers everything, free housing, healthcare, commit as many crimes as you want, insurance fraud - then pretend they don’t

Too bad if you get up early for work

FG simply don’t know what they’re doing, like unionism, they are in terminal decline and their Twitter nonsense is just embarrassing at this stage

Post of the thread!

QFT.

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

except its not??

Its evident,yous havnt an iota of the ethos,aims or objectives of the orange order



Deos it have sectarian killers within its ranks,who upto 2019 were still stewarding ranks

Did it as late as 2018 refuse membership in fermanagh to someone engaged to a catholic?


Is it held responsible for worsening sectarian tensions in scotland.....and how do the above work as part of your moving on culture??



Theres lolitoc of hatred about alright,but theres only one person cheering it on supporting the orange order

Better than having sectarian killers in your ranks who become elected political representatives on behalf of your organisation.

McMurphy

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

You brought the KKK into the thread, only you know why the hell anyone would want to?
That's the sort of politics you want to discuss #politicofhatred
I agreed a bigoted attitude exist but from what I can see it ain't coming from the Orange order

The orange order are the perfect epitome of "bigoted attitude" for Christ sake, it's the very reason for their existence.

The Orange Order is a conservative unionist organisation,[4][5] with links to Ulster loyalism. It campaigned against Scottish independence in 2014.[6] The Order sees itself as defending Protestant civil and religious liberties, whilst critics accuse the Order of being sectarian, triumphalist,[7][8][9][10] and supremacist.[10][11][12][13] As a strict Protestant society, it does not accept non-Protestants as members unless they convert and adhere to the principles of Orangeism, nor does it accept Protestants married to Catholics.[14][15][16] Although many Orange marches are without incident, marches through mainly Catholic and Irish nationalist neighbourhoods are controversial and have often led to violence

Proclaiming there is no bigoted attitude from them would be like trying to proclaim the Vatican doesn't promote Catholicism.

Please think about what you're posting FFS.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

One is a religiously bigoted, racist community parading for the local community and seen as normal and acceptable.

And the other is the KKK? Nah, your label applies to both photographs.

blanch152

UDAWINNER wrote: »

so the party that got got the highest percentage vote in the country is the the party of scroungers in a time when we had full employment. Make sense:D
have a day off will ya.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election

Sinn Fein got 535,595 votes.


https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/7d11c-minister-humphreys-publishes-social-welfare-statistics-annual-report-2019/#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20main%20findings,expenditure%20totalling%20%E2%82%AC8.2%20billion.

"Over 1.3 million people were in receipt of a weekly Social Welfare payment, which was paid in respect of over 2 million beneficiaries"

It is mathematically possible that all Sinn Fein voters are on social welfare.

UDAWINNER

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

You do realise not every single person in Ireland voted? Whats that got with SF having the higest vote.
Plus Ireland will never have full employment.
I am not saying every voter for SF was a scrounger either

You should tell that to every FFG Minister over the years, as they said we did numerous times'

UDAWINNER

blanch152 wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election

Sinn Fein got 535,595 votes.


https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/7d11c-minister-humphreys-publishes-social-welfare-statistics-annual-report-2019/#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20main%20findings,expenditure%20totalling%20%E2%82%AC8.2%20billion.

"Over 1.3 million people were in receipt of a weekly Social Welfare payment, which was paid in respect of over 2 million beneficiaries"

It is mathematically possible that all Sinn Fein voters are on social welfare.

vast majority of those were pensions, the group that gave SF the lowest percentage vote.
Your points don't add up, talking bs as usual,

Fann Linn

blanch152 wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election

Sinn Fein got 535,595 votes.


https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/7d11c-minister-humphreys-publishes-social-welfare-statistics-annual-report-2019/#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20main%20findings,expenditure%20totalling%20%E2%82%AC8.2%20billion.

"Over 1.3 million people were in receipt of a weekly Social Welfare payment, which was paid in respect of over 2 million beneficiaries"

It is mathematically possible that all Sinn Fein voters are on social welfare.

PS worker here Blanch. No sw payments in this household.
Unfortunately!!

FrancieBrady

Fann Linn wrote: »

PS worker here Blanch. No sw payments in this household.
Unfortunately!!

Only ever received SW for 3 weeks in the early 80's here. Voted SF in the GE.

blanch152

UDAWINNER wrote: »

vast majority of those were pensions, the group that gave SF the lowest percentage vote.
Your points don't add up, talking bs as usual,

Fann Linn wrote: »

PS worker here Blanch. No sw payments in this household.
Unfortunately!!

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Only ever received SW for 3 weeks in the early 80's here. Voted SF in the GE.

Read my post. I said it was mathematically possible, I didn't say it was in any way likely.