FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

It just happened to be that particular gards funeral that was openly and publicly flouting the social distancing guidelines a few days before the Shinners..

I would bring up Van Morrison had he of been buried a few days before hand and there was a mass public gathering of mourners breaking the social distancing guidelines.

You're now trying to suggest people shouldn't bring it up at all because it doesn't suit, not because of who he was and how he died.

I'm an suggesting that people don't bring it up out of respect/empathy for someone who gave his life serving his country. Not for some point scoring as is used by SF supporters. There wers mistakes at the funeral but no need to drag his name up every few days

Yurt2

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

What’s your point, amigo? It’s all a bit incoherent. You aren’t a former sports hack and the worst podcaster in history by any chance?

As for me; I grew up in the Connemara Gaeltacht. Far from a life of luxury. That’s another great thing about being a member of FG - it’s a broad church that represents the best of this state and it’s citizens. Aspirational, caring, nuanced, ambitious, pragmatic.

That riles up some people. That’s good though.

What in god's name are you on about?

And for the sake of of the universe, you can retire your broski act. If you are from Connemara, I can think of a few people who would happily give you a wedgie for saying 'dude' every other sentence.

If you're such a Mensa candidate, try to let your overwhelming intellect spill into your posts. We'd all be the better for it.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

I'm an suggesting that people don't bring it up out of respect/empathy for someone who gave his life serving his country. Not for some point scoring as is used by SF supporters. There wers mistakes at the funeral but no need to drag his name up every few days

Does this apply to all funerals?

It was pretty much the way it was before the dastardly shinners held a funeral...in the way they have held many many funerals for years.

So is it that you only want no mention of select funerals or are ALL funerals not to be spoken about?

McMurphy

christy c wrote: »

I'm an suggesting that people don't bring it up out of respect/empathy for someone who gave his life serving his country. Not for some point scoring as is used by SF supporters. There wers mistakes at the funeral but no need to drag his name up every few days

As I said - no one gave a shiny shyte about the social distancing measures being broke at his funeral despite the virus - but FG in particular tried to make a big deal out of the same social distancing guidelines being flouted at the shinners.

"It's disrespectful to the dead Garda" ain't going to wash - the virus doesn't give a sh1t who's funeral it was buddy, the virus just wants new hosts so it can recreate itself and spread to others.

FG/FF/SF Voters will all get the same dose of covid 19 if the virus gets a chance - you don't get it, there's no moral high ground here.

James Brown

christy c wrote: »

That post clearly wasn't about the Garda. We see the SF fans telling us that the Garda funeral was not highlighted out of respect, yet he is dragged up any time it is convenient.

I am making direct comparisons. If a person wants to be nasty about one but ignore the other its complete hypocrisy. That was clearly the point.
Now go on what were you still saying about check points? Important stuff. If you leave a locked down County the Garda pay no heed. Defeats the purpose. I would imagine those Garda present at the piss up were aware they were...at an 80÷ piss up.

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

As I said - no one gave a shiny shyte about the social distancing measures being broke at his funeral despite the virus - but FG in particular tried to make a big deal out of the same social distancing guidelines being flouted at the shinners.

"It's disrespectful to the dead Garda" ain't going to wash - the virus doesn't give a sh1t who's funeral it was buddy, the virus just wants new hosts so it can recreate itself and spread to others.

FG/FF/SF Voters will all get the same dose of covid 19 if the virus gets a chance - you don't get it, there's no moral high ground here.

SF's brainfart as you like to call them was all over the news and caused problems with the other parties in the North, nothing to do with Fg.

It is disrespectful to the dead Garda to drag his name up, despite the social distancing problems at his funeral. I never suggested the virus cares about who's funeral it was.

FrancieBrady

Bowie wrote: »

I am making direct comparisons. If a person wants to be nasty about one but ignore the other its complete hypocrisy. That was clearly the point.
Now go on what were you still saying about check points? Important stuff. If you leave a locked down County the Garda pay no heed. Defeats the purpose. I would imagine those Garda present at the piss up were aware they were...at an 80÷ piss up.

Methinks christy c (who claims to be politically neutral) is just doing what the 'adviser' is doing here:

https://twitter.com/fionnansheahan/status/1297118167718924290

James Brown

christy c wrote: »

Look, if yourself and fellow supporters had so much empathy, you would not be dragging his name in whenever convenient. You can defend SF without dragging up a murdered Garda when it suits.

By pointing out when others do same? How on earth is bringing up Storey's funeral to use for point scoring noble or okay but pointing out how pathetic it is by making comparisons 'dragging' someone's name when convenient?
You and your fellow supporters are the ones using a funeral constantly to try win your little game. When it gets particularly low like that post I'll be inclined to raise Horkan's based on the similarities of the events.
So all you are doing here is deciding which you prefer to respect based on politics.
Hypocritical.
Its not defending SF. Its pointing out bull in a discussion. You and your fellow travelers are one again using SF to hide your blushes dragging his name up when ever convenient. Then I will and continue to point out your hypocrisy in ignoring the Garda funeral.

Personally as I've said before I would be raising neither.

christy c

Bowie wrote: »

I am making direct comparisons. If a person wants to be nasty about one but ignore the other its complete hypocrisy. That was clearly the point.
Now go on what were you still saying about check points? Important stuff. If you leave a locked down County the Garda pay no heed. Defeats the purpose. I would imagine those Garda present at the piss up were aware they were...at an 80÷ piss up.

You replied to a poster who was making a (stupid IMO) dig at SF and IRa by playing dumb and bringing up the Garda. It was clearly an IRA dig so absolutely no need to bring him up.

What did you not understand about the checkpoints? It was said that politicians got through checkpoints because they were going to a golf event. I just said that FG came out bad enough out of this without making stuff up.

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Methinks christy c (who claims to be politically neutral)
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Cut the BS, I have said that I have voted for FG and continue to vote for them as best of a bad lot. I have gave clear reasons why i do not vote for the other major parties so I dont need spoofers like yourself implying ulterior motives.

christy c

Bowie wrote: »

By pointing out when others do same? How on earth is bringing up Storey's funeral to use for point scoring noble or okay but pointing out how pathetic it is by making comparisons 'dragging' someone's name when convenient?
You and your fellow supporters are the ones using a funeral constantly to try win your little game. When it gets particularly low like that post I'll be inclined to raise Horkan's based on the similarities of the events.
So all you are doing here is deciding which you prefer to respect based on politics.
Hypocritical.
Its nit defending SF. Its printout bull in a discussion. You and your fellow travelers are one again using SF to hide your blushes dragging his name up when ever convenient. Then I will and continue to point out your hypocrisy is ignoring the Garda funeral.

Personally as I've said before I would be raising neither.

Lots of waffle, I particularly like the line that you are not defending SF. You brought up Garda Horkan in relation to someone making an IRA dig. Own it.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

Cut the BS, I have said that I have voted for FG and continue to vote for them as best of a bad lot. I have gave clear reasons why i do not vote for the other major parties so I dont need spoofers like yourself implying ulterior motives.

Who implied 'ulterior motives'? It's abundantly clear what you are doing.

satguy

christy c wrote: »

We were through this yesterday, the checkpoints was your imagination.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/county-next-lock-gp-warns-1061260

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who implied 'ulterior motives'? It's abundantly clear what you are doing.

I read you implying that I am not politcally neutral as having an ulterior motive. Can you explain to me what I am doing? Bowie was saying I am trying to save FGs blushes, what's your theory?

BTW there are plenty of threads criticising FG for the Clifden scumbaggery where I have not defended them.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

I read you implying that I am not politcally neutral as having an ulterior motive. Can you explain to me what I am doing? Bowie was saying I am trying to save FGs blushes, what's your theory?

BTW there are plenty of threads criticising FG for the Clifden scumbaggery where I have not defended them.

Quite simply, you are trying to block parts of a discussion you don't like and find difficult.
Please stop as that is censorship of a kind and it won't work anyhow.

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Quite simply, you are trying to block parts of a discussion you don't like and find difficult.
Please stop as that is censorship of a kind and it won't work anyhow.

Haha, I am trying to censor discussion. Why do you want me to stop if it won't work anyhow?

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

Haha, I am trying to censor discussion. Why do you want me to stop if it won't work anyhow?

I want you to stop for your own sake. It makes you look like a non-neutral?

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I want you to stop for your own sake. It makes you look like a non-neutral?

I'm sure you are very concerned about me.

McMurphy

christy c wrote: »

SF's brainfart as you like to call them was all over the news and caused problems with the other parties in the North, nothing to do with Fg.

It is disrespectful to the dead Garda to drag his name up, despite the social distancing problems at his funeral. I never suggested the virus cares about who's funeral it was.

Christy I must say, for a lad who only votes for fg as the best of a bad lot, and see the biggest problems about Sinn Féin being "apple tax and pension age"** you're putting a fierce piece of effort into this funeral malarkey, and wanting people to not mention one funeral over the other.

**I think you cross your fingers behind your back when you type out those words.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

I'm sure you are very concerned about me.

And I would say the same about your concern for a Garda.
I think you are more concerned about an unanswerable accusation of double standards/hypocrisy than anything else tbh.

James Brown

christy c wrote: »

You replied to a poster who was making a (stupid IMO) dig at SF and IRa by playing dumb and bringing up the Garda. It was clearly an IRA dig so absolutely no need to bring him up.

What did you not understand about the checkpoints? It was said that politicians got through checkpoints because they were going to a golf event. I just said that FG came out bad enough out of this without making stuff up.

He was speaking on the funeral held by SF to deflect from the golf piss up. Your fellow travelers do this a lot, yet won't mention the Garda funeral which was the exact same event and had the same issues regarding Covid. Both should have been handled differently IMO.
You are giving the raising of Storey's a pass and being critical of Horkan's being used as comparison to show hypocrisy.
Thats you playing favourites.

I would expect the lockdown counties had similar check points we had during the early days were Garda at checkpoints would ask were you were going and why.
Maybe there were none and these lockdowns were a note in the parish newsletter.
The Garda escorting these individuals and those present were complicit in breaking the rules. Thats my take away. If he showed there were check points you'd be questioning what constitutes a 'real' checkpoint etc. Its distraction like raising the storey funeral.
Because for some reason you're more interested in pedantry than the golf piss up.

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

Christy I must say, for a lad who only votes for fg as the best of a bad lot, and see the biggest problems about Sinn Féin being "apple tax and pension age"** you're putting a fierce piece of effort into this funeral malarkey, and wanting people to not mention one funeral over the other.

**I think you cross your fingers behind your back when you type out those words.

No, I have family in the Gardai have respect for the good ones which Colm definitely seems to have been one of, and dont like seeing his name being brought up to score points.

Your waffle about crossing my fingers aside, I despise SF for their brain dead approach to the apple tax and burying their head in the sand approach to the pension timebomb as you said. But also their nonsensical Corporate tax polices, wanting to slash the tax base to leave it very dependent on high income individuals, etc. If they came up with semi coherent economic policies they could be worth a shot.

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And I would say the same about your concern for a Garda.
I think you are more concerned about an unanswerable accusation of double standards/hypocrisy than anything else tbh.

I am not concerned for a Garda? Really pathetic.

He was brought up in response to a post about the IRA FFS.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

No, I have family in the Gardai have respect for the good ones which Colm definitely seems to have been one of, and dont like seeing his name being brought up to score points.

Your waffle about crossing my fingers aside, I despise SF for their brain dead approach to the apple tax and burying their head in the sand approach to the pension timebomb as you said. But also their nonsensical Corporate tax polices, wanting to slash the tax base to leave it very dependent on high income individuals, etc. If they came up with semi coherent economic policies they could be worth a shot.

The criticism is of Colm Horkan's funeral not Colm Horkan himself.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

I am not concerned for a Garda? Really pathetic.

He was brought up in response to a post about the IRA FFS.

He was a father, husband, friend and by the looks of the numbers who turned and wanted to turn out, just as much a respected member of his community as Garda Horkan was.

christy c

Bowie wrote: »

He was speaking on the funeral held by SF to deflect from the golf piss up. Your felliw travelers do this a lot, yet won't mention the Garda funeral which was the exact same event and had the same issues regarding Covid. Both should have been handled differently IMO.
You are giving the raising of Storey's a pass and being critical of Horkan's being used as comparison to show hypocrisy.
Thats you playing favourites.

I would expect the lockdown counties had similar check points we had during the early days were Garda at checkpoints would ask were you were going and why.
Maybe there were none and these lockdowns were a note in the parish newsletter.
The Garda escorting these individuals and those present were complicit in breaking the rules. Thats my take away. If he showed there were check points you'd be questioning what constitutes a 'real' checkpoint etc. Its distraction like raising the storey funeral.

He raised a point about the IRA to which you brought up the Garda. Own it.

Regarding the checkpoint nonsense, it was said explicitly that they were allowed through because they were going to a golf event. Did that definitely happen? I asked for any evidence but it seems it was just another conspiracy theory from that poster. This would imply the Garda at the checkpoint was complicit (if he actually existed). The Garda driving him and present at the dinner is definitely an issue.

christy c

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The criticism is of Colm Horkan's funeral not Colm Horkan himself.

I know, and that would be nice for his family to read?

James Brown

christy c wrote: »

No, I have family in the Gardai have respect for the good ones which Colm definitely seems to have been one of, and dont like seeing his name being brought up to score points.

Your waffle about crossing my fingers aside, I despise SF for their brain dead approach to the apple tax and burying their head in the sand approach to the pension timebomb as you said. But also their nonsensical Corporate tax polices, wanting to slash the tax base to leave it very dependent on high income individuals, etc. If they came up with semi coherent economic policies they could be worth a shot.

I have a good friend who's a Sargent. I've no family in SF or friends. It doesnt change the fact the storey funeral is being used to deflect. Now its fair comment to use it to call out the covid breaches regarding distancing. Beyond that its getting into disrespect of the family. You are making one untouchable while allowing the other. Thats hypocrisy.
And there you go on a shinner rant...all to deflect from the golf piss up. This national story is of less interest to you seemingly.

FrancieBrady

christy c wrote: »

I know, and that would be nice for his family to read?

That's exactly why nobody said anything about it at the time...empathy.

Everybody should have it when a loved one dies and is being buried.

christy c

Bowie wrote: »

I have a good friend who's a Sargent. I've no family in SF or friends. It doesnt change the fact the storey funeral is being used to deflect. Now its fair comment to use it to call out the covid breaches regarding distancing. Beyond that its getting into disrespect of the family. You are making one untouchable while allowing the other. Thats hypocrisy.

I think we should not be bring up someone who died serving the state to score points. If that means not bringing up Storey so be it.