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FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

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    #1652
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Given that you are struggling to know whose word to take, I will set out the two sides.

    On the one side, supporting transmission in schools, you have presented a tabloid headlined article from the Irish Independent.

    On the other sides, are many health experts and reports which all conclude the same thing that transmission in a school setting is very rare, and any cases that do arise usually arise from transmission outside of the school setting.

    If you are still struggling as to who to believe, there could be a job for you on the Sinn Fein front bench.

    I take it that's why 15-24 age category went up 150% and 5-14 went up 200% since schools reopened while all other categories went up only at a max of 50%?

    https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1316820733620826119?s=19


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    #1653
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    smurgen wrote: »
    I take it that's why 15-24 age category went up 150% and 5-14 went up 200% since schools reopened while all other categories went up only at a max of 50%?

    https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1316820733620826119?s=19

    Who the hell is Roman Shortall? Some angry no-mark on Twitter who spends all day giving out about stuff? I’ve never heard of him. His opinions on stuff are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.


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    #1654
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Who the hell is Roman Shortall? Some angry no-mark on Twitter who spends all day giving out about stuff? I’ve never heard of him. His opinions on stuff are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    Hahaha Dont like what you see, say it cant be true as its somebody you dont know who said it.

    A simple look at thr figures will tell you he is correct


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    #1655
    Kowerski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Kowerski


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Who the hell is Roman Shortall? Some angry no-mark on Twitter who spends all day giving out about stuff? I’ve never heard of him. His opinions on stuff are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.


    Might not be the brighest spark in the night sky. The fact he says "in 1 tweet" and then has a second tweet to explain says it all really

    https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1306573500530995201


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    #1656
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Kowerski wrote: »
    Might not be the brighest spark in the night sky

    https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1306573500530995201

    Another new poster who defends Govt about anything. "Strange"


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    #1657
    Kowerski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Kowerski


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Another new poster who defends Govt about anything. "Strange"


    I wasn't aware this thread was closed to new posters.


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    #1658
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Kowerski wrote: »
    I wasn't aware this thread was closed to new posters.

    A Bot, you with FF or FG or one Blanch's lot?


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    #1659
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Has she given up on keeping the pubs and bookies open while closing the schools?

    Now now remember - she was "misquoted"


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    #1660
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Knew well you would come back on this. Jesus man, have some self awareness. :pac:

    Check this out.



    Felipe Fillop.


    So if isn't being spread in schools, apart from when it is but that it's rare?


    If there's any vacancies, I think you should be applying yourself blanch. :D

    Do you ever give up? You are drowning in a hole you have dug for yourself.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/education-minister-would-seek-advice-about-schools-staying-open-if-country-goes-to-level-5-1020915.html


    "The public health advice available to us, and the indeed the national and international experience, tells us that schools are safe places, low-risk environments - and that's largely due to the measures and resources that have been put in place."

    Norma Foley isn't the sharpest tool in the toolbox, but even she understands it quicker than you do.


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    #1661
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Who the hell is Roman Shortall? Some angry no-mark on Twitter who spends all day giving out about stuff? I’ve never heard of him. His opinions on stuff are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    Are you saying the numbers quoted are wrong?


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    #1662
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Kowerski wrote: »
    Might not be the brighest spark in the night sky. The fact he says "in 1 tweet" and then has a second tweet to explain says it all really

    https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1306573500530995201

    No comment on the numbers quoted?


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    #1663
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    This is not a Sinn Fein thread you sad sad individual.

    Our Govt IGNORED HEALTH ADVCE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW. You havnt once gave out about them doing that, its just as SF this, SF that

    6 counties run the North not just 1.

    It would be like Blaiming FG for all the issues in the 26 counties, its false and misleading but you have Sinn Fein on the membrane

    The Shinners hate being caught out. Pathetic campaign here to prevent anyone from pointing to their hypocrisy and lack of any alternative policy or proposal whenever they start whinging


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    #1664
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Truthvader wrote: »
    The Shinners hate being caught out. Pathetic campaign here to prevent anyone from pointing to their hypocrisy and lack of any alternative policy or proposal whenever they start whinging

    Sinn Fein never IGNORED NHEPT

    That was FF/FG and Greens


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    #1665
    Kowerski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Kowerski


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein never IGNORED NHEPT

    That was FF/FG and Greens


    Mary Lou said it was correct decision by the government not to go to level 5. Would you not say that is ignoring NPHET?


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    #1666
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Kowerski wrote: »
    Mary Lou said it was correct decision by the government not to go to level 5. Would you not say that is ignoring NPHET?

    This is not about SF, its about FF/Green and FG rejecting NHEPTs advice.

    I disagree with Mary Lou on that one, as Ive said many times


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    #1667
    Kowerski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Kowerski


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    This is not about SF, its about FF/Green and FG rejecting NHEPTs advice.

    I disagree with Mary Lou on that one, as Ive said many times


    You posted about Sinn Fein.


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein never IGNORED NHEPT

    That was FF/FG and Greens


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    #1668
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Kowerski wrote: »
    You posted about Sinn Fein.

    Yes I said Sinn Fein never took the decision.

    The Govt did, and it has proven to be the wrong one.

    Nice to have you back SheffWeds


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    #1669
    James Brown
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    Has she given up on keeping the pubs and bookies open while closing the schools?

    Is that what LV is waiting to be convinced about? Weird.


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    #1670
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Now now remember - she was "misquoted"

    Oh, dear...
    Blanch has it right, sort of. To explain for you again, she suggested those already open should remain open. You'll get it. Hang in there.


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    #1671
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Bowie wrote: »
    Oh, dear...
    Blanch has it right, sort of. To explain for you again, she suggested those already open should remain open. You'll get it. Hang in there.

    Its hard for the uneducated to get their head around things


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    #1672
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    This is not a Sinn Fein thread you sad sad individual.

    Our Govt IGNORED HEALTH ADVCE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW. You havnt once gave out about them doing that, its just as SF this, SF that

    6 counties run the North not just 1.

    It would be like Blaiming FG for all the issues in the 26 counties, its false and misleading but you have Sinn Fein on the membrane

    Mod

    Calm it down and take a break from the thread for a week.


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    #1673
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    So Alan Farrell attacking NPHET two weeks after Leo did. FG attacking the experts and undermining them while talking our the other side of their mouths about all in it together. If the public stop listening to NPHET it will be off the back of the FG undermining exercise.


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    #1674
    Colonel Claptrap
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Colonel Claptrap


    smurgen wrote: »
    So Alan Farrell attacking NPHET two weeks after Leo did. FG attacking the experts and undermining them while talking our the other side of their mouths about all in it together. If the public stop listening to NPHET it will be off the back of the FG undermining exercise.

    It's possible to support NPHET and still think they are wrong for leaking. If they are the ones leaking.


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    #1675
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Colonel Claptrap wrote: »
    It's possible to support NPHET and still think they are wrong for leaking. If they are the ones leaking.

    Where's the evidence they are? Do you not think it's premature to talk about disbanding them if there's no evidence to support that they did?


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    #1676
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    McMurphy wrote: »
    No prizes for guessing who is front and center on twitter this morning, and it's not for praise either.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Varadkar&vertical=trends&s=09


    The next opinion poll on his "popularity" will be interesting.

    Yes, indeed it is.

    Out today, in the Sunday Times, Leo's popularity is up 2%.

    Not quite what you expected?


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    #1677
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Yes, indeed it is.

    Out today, in the Sunday Times, Leo's popularity is up 2%.

    Not quite what you expected?

    Wouldn't be so focussed on polls one way or the other. Time for leaders to make tough decisions that may be unpopular without looking over their shoulder to see if everyone is happy or not. Covid 19 wont be beaten by being popular


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    #1678
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Wouldn't be so focussed on polls one way or the other. Time for leaders to make tough decisions that may be unpopular without looking over their shoulder to see if everyone is happy or not. Covid 19 wont be beaten by being popular

    Oh, I am not that focussed on polls, but when some set store in it, important to point out what actually happened in the poll.

    It is far more important that the Government take the right decisions to beat Covid, even if they are unpopular.


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    #1679
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Oh, I am not that focussed on polls, but when some set store in it, important to point out what actually happened in the poll.

    It is far more important that the Government take the right decisions to beat Covid, even if they are unpopular.

    Ignoring NPHET and the education minister making announcements in health? Some shams.
    Looking more like 5 will be happening soon enough.


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    #1680
    [Deleted User]
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    Bowie wrote: »
    Ignoring NPHET and the education minister making announcements in health? Some shams.
    Looking more like 5 will be happening soon enough.

    Prpopsed restrictions here. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-social-bubbles-eviction-ban-and-5km-travel-restriction-under-consideration-for-new-covid-19-rules-39638423.html
    It’s not just a health issue. The economy has to come into the equation too.


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    #1681
    PommieBast
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    Bowie wrote: »
    Ignoring NPHET and the education minister making announcements in health? Some shams.
    Looking more like 5 will be happening soon enough.
    Even though he was health minister for quite a while I was wondering why it was him making the announcments. I don't think it will be an official Level 5 as then all the teaching unions will want schools closed, but it will be pretty close to it in practice.


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