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FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

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    #1832
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    The housing situation is going to come back seriously on ffg. Its the reason fg took such a hit last election. If ffg have to start introducing austerity budgets, due to their very poor handling of the situation, before the next election... "all in it together until" until it starts hitting the so far uneffecteds pockets!


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    #1833
    golfball37
    Registered Users Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭golfball37


    FG people should ask is Leo now bigger than the party? His behavior plays to the base but alienates floating voters like myself. SF have become contenders under his stewardship, that will be his legacy.


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    #1834
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    satguy wrote: »
    As it stands.

    The end of of 2020 is just around the corner.

    We have had a good look at our 3 Government Parties,, So the question left to ask is, what have we learned so far. (SF & IND will only be a footnote here)

    Lets Begin

    FG.. (EX Bankers, EX Stockbrokers, EX Vulture fund managers, or Friends with vulture fund managers)
    With their boss out of country due to COVID-19, and most of our economy closed down, this year has seen corruption at an all time low. Some of their friends must surely be hurting. But what has been bad for them, has been good for us. Barring the odd granting of Planning Permission for some of their vulture fund buddies, I would say, the normal man in the street is unharmed so far this year.
    SCORE 5/10 ......... LEFT TO DO = New Leader

    GP to follow

    Far less chance of fraudulent claims, when sophies bar is closed!


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    #1835
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    golfball37 wrote: »
    FG people should ask is Leo now bigger than the party? His behavior plays to the base but alienates floating voters like myself. SF have become contenders under his stewardship, that will be his legacy.

    All my mates were ex fg voters, all working , good education etc. That fraud, will gove free houses , medical cards, cash out to that dont vote or certainly wouldnt vote for him! Spinelss weasel that he is. But he will happily impoverish his own generation on property prices aswell. Still a scandalous marginal rate of tax etc despite nearly a decade in power and boom 2. Listen all you shills or fg hq strategists, if your womdering why many walked away from fg and wont return, there is only so much lying and bull**** you can get away with, before the people wake up. Even if your best buddies in rte do everything to further your cause...

    Id say there will be another exodus of the skilled and young as soon as soon as they can leave, once we pay enough to keep margaret cash and the legions like her here, happy days though !


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    #1836
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    All my mates were ex fg voters, all working , good education etc. That fraud, will gove free houses , medical cards, cash out to that dont vote or certainly wouldnt vote for him! Spinelss weasel that he is. But he will happily impoverish his own geberation on property prices aswell. Still a scandLoud marginal rate of tax etc despite nearly a decade in power and boom 2. Listen all you shills or fg hq strategists, if your womderi.g why many walked away from fg and wont return, there is only so much lying and bull**** you can gwt away with, before the people wake up. Even if your best buddies in rte do everything to further your cause...

    Spelling check completed.


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    #1837
    satguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭satguy


    christy c wrote: »
    FF 10 out of 10, if this was another poster I would say it was a joke but you are probably being serious.

    Read it again christy ,, your not getting the point. It's easy to score 10/10 if all you do is hide.

    Now Do U See !!


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    #1838
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Spelling check completed.

    Lol! Forgive me for not checking the spelling first, when typing out thousands of words a day from a smartphone. Hopefully you are smart enough to work out what I meant...


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    #1839
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    satguy wrote: »
    Read it again christy ,, your not getting the point. It's easy to score 10/10 if all you do is hide.

    Now Do U See !!

    Once is enough to read your nonsense.


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    #1840
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Lol! Forgive me for not checking the spelling first, when typing out thousands of words a day from a smartphone. Hopefully you are smart enough to work out what I meant...

    I got the nuts and bolts of it alright:)


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    #1841
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Lol! Forgive me for not checking the spelling first, when typing out thousands of words a day from a smartphone. Hopefully you are smart enough to work out what I meant...

    Yes, no bother there, happens me too.
    A rant with emotion, anger leads to mistakes too.


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    #1842
    satguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭satguy


    As it stands.

    The end of of 2020 is just around the corner.

    We have had a good look at our 3 Government Parties,, So the question left to ask is, what have we learned so far. (SF & IND will only be a footnote here)

    Lets Begin

    Green Party . (FG on Bikes, with some Hippies and Vegetarians thrown in)
    With 7 seats, and a place at the cabinet table, this should have been their moment to shine, Their time in the sun. To show us all how better off we could be, if we voted Green. Alas, it has not turned that way for them, It has been a disaster for them. With their leader asleep at the wheel, and their policies in disarray. They will be lucky if they ever win a seat again.
    SCORE 1/10 .. LEFT TO DO = New Leader


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    #1843
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    The greens i will vote for again regardless, the attitude to the envirinment and sustainability here is a disgrace! They areca poor version of a green party, but the only one we have!


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    #1844
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    And if it was in the public domain, why send it?
    MM and the Greens however are swallowing this guff so leave them at it.

    I doubt they are. MM doesn't want an election and the Greens have their arses on nice government cushions. In any case Leo's own version means he leaked to his pal. Why he claims he did it is neither here nor there.


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    #1845
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    christy c wrote: »
    FF 10 out of 10, if this was another poster I would say it was a joke but you are probably being serious.

    TBF we've had FG'ers say the reverse, FG got it all their way etc.


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    #1846
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bowie wrote: »
    I doubt they are. MM doesn't want an election and the Greens have their arses on nice government cushions. In any case Leo's own version means he leaked to his pal. Why he claims he did it is neither here nor there.

    Exactly. If he escapes sanction here the precedent will have been set...FG/FF nirvana - no accountability at all, if you say it was done in what you thought was the national interest.


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    #1847
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    Bowie wrote: »
    TBF we've had FG'ers say the reverse, FG got it all their way etc.

    How does that justify the absurd 10/10 score for FF?


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    #1848
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    christy c wrote: »
    How does that justify the absurd 10/10 score for FF?

    Pointing out others post similar from the other way is all.
    Personally I wrote off FF years ago.


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    #1849
    PommieBast
    Registered Users Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    satguy wrote: »
    Green Party . (FG on Bikes, with some Hippies and Vegetarians thrown in)
    With 7 seats, and a place at the cabinet table, this should have been their moment to shine, Their time in the sun. To show us all how better off we could be, if we voted Green. Alas, it has not turned that way for them, It has been a disaster for them. With their leader asleep at the wheel, and their policies in disarray. They will be lucky if they ever win a seat again.
    The Green Party will clearly lose all of the virtue-signalling vote but they may well hang on to the true environmentalist vote if they veto any support for the aviation sector.


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    #1850
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    Bowie wrote: »
    Pointing out others post similar from the other way is all.
    Personally I wrote off FF years ago.

    You wrote FF years ago yet it was my comment criticising the absurd 10/10 rating for FF that you responded to. Right.


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    #1851
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    christy c wrote: »
    You wrote FF years ago yet it was my comment criticising the absurd 10/10 rating for FF that you responded to. Right.

    Oh ffs....whatever Christy.


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    #1852
    satguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭satguy


    Bowie wrote: »
    Oh ffs....whatever Christy.

    I've already explained to Christy how easy it is to score 10/10,, But he just can't see. Or doesn't want to ...


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    #1853
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    satguy wrote: »
    As it stands.

    The end of of 2020 is just around the corner.

    We have had a good look at our 3 Government Parties,, So the question left to ask is, what have we learned so far. (SF & IND will only be a footnote here)

    Lets Begin

    Green Party . (FG on Bikes, with some Hippies and Vegetarians thrown in)
    With 7 seats, and a place at the cabinet table, this should have been their moment to shine, Their time in the sun. To show us all how better off we could be, if we voted Green. Alas, it has not turned that way for them, It has been a disaster for them. With their leader asleep at the wheel, and their policies in disarray. They will be lucky if they ever win a seat again.
    SCORE 1/10 .. LEFT TO DO = New Leader


    I would suggest that you don't give up the day job.


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    #1854
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    satguy wrote: »
    I've already explained to Christy how easy it is to score 10/10,, But he just can't see. Or doesn't want to ...

    No, the issue is that yet again you are talking through your backside. Bowie seems to actually agree with me on their poor performance.


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    #1855
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    christy c wrote: »
    No, the issue is that yet again you are talking through your backside. Bowie seems to actually agree with me on their poor performance.

    Just to clarify, you came across like you were surprised/amazed that anyone could believe FF were performing well. We'd numerous posts on FG playing a blinder too. Just pointing out it's not the first time we've had such, IMO, unfounded beliefs.
    I believe when MM got the job he was happy, job done. He doesn't seem to have much vigor and certainly no interest in causing an election. Leo won't be held over hot coals by anyone in FF or the Greens.
    This is why we need a vocal opposition. Whatever the agenda or bias, we need someone to ask questions and hold people to account. If only to stop TD's making a fool of themselves or putting trust in government into question, that's beside any findings or suspicions of conscious wrong doing.


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    #1856
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    Bowie wrote: »
    Just to clarify, you came across like you were surprised/amazed that anyone could believe FF were performing well. We'd numerous posts on FG playing a blinder too. Just pointing out it's not the first time we've had such, IMO, unfounded beliefs.
    I believe when MM got the job he was happy, job done. He doesn't seem to have much vigor and certainly no interest in causing an election. Leo won't be held over hot coals by anyone in FF or the Greens.
    This is why we need a vocal opposition. Whatever the agenda or bias, we need someone to ask questions and hold people to account. If only to stop TD's making a fool of themselves or putting trust in government into question, that's beside any findings or suspicions of conscious wrong doing.

    I was surprised anyone could give FF 10/10 (or any party for that matter). It seems you agree with me on this given that you wrote them off.


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    #1857
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    christy c wrote: »
    I was surprised anyone could give FF 10/10 (or any party for that matter). It seems you agree with me on this given that you wrote them off.

    I'm of the belief that FF are a sham party with only the pretense of public representation. I know you could say similar about many parties but FF have sealed it without question over the decades IMO.
    Again, I've a low opinion of FG and have read a few posts on here regarding FG playing a blinder based on posts taken in current government and sitting back to allow FF destroy itself etc.
    In short anyone posting about how great any party is wouldn't surprise. It was a throwaway comment, at least I thought it was.


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    #1858
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    Bowie wrote: »
    It was a throwaway comment, at least I thought it was.

    It wasn’t, hence why I commented on it. He even repeated it.


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    #1859
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    christy c wrote: »
    It wasn’t, hence why I commented on it. He even repeated it.

    Was talking about mine.


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    #1860
    satguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭satguy


    If FF do nothing,, never make a decision, in fact do nothing at all.

    If they let FG have all the top ministerial positions, you know, the ones that can get a bit sticky once in a while. (all the time).
    Then COVID comes, and all FF do is nod and hide behind what our Health Officials say, and do what they are told.

    Then it's Job Done.

    They made no decisions.
    They implemented no policies.
    They said nothing, and in so doing, said nothing wrong.
    They left Leo out in front to take all the flack.
    They did nothing but cash their wage checks every month.

    And earned a perfect score of 10/10


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    #1861
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 86,795 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    If Leo goes as leader, Simon or Paschal take over?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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