FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

Bishop of hope

Lads yiz are hilarious.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Lads yiz are hilarious.

How so? What are you trying to say? I don't care if Mother Theresa or Eamon DeValera tries to hold Leo to account or show up FF/FG/Greens for backing him, it's doing the state a service.
What's your problem? The issue doesn't matter it's who raises it? Surely that's the joke?

smurgen

You'd really start to wonder at all what sort of candidates FG have in their ranks at all.

https://twitter.com/Astraea1974/status/1324714620158910471?s=19

blanch152

blanch152 wrote: »

It is illegal to pay a fee to a board member of a charity.

How then is pieta house in the 2019 accounts paying 3 employees above 70K per annum,one of them above 90K??

Nobotty

Charities are allowed to have full time administrative employees
I'm not comfortable with the Pieta house bashing on these threads

McMurphy

Nobotty wrote: »

Charities are allowed to have full time administrative employees
I'm not comfortable with the Pieta house bashing on these threads

Quote the "Pieta house bashing" please.

smurgen

Isn't regina Doherty the person who had American journalist stopped and cautioned by Gardai at Dublin airport for facebook comments? Probably the last person to care about mental health.

Nobotty

McMurphy wrote: »

Quote the "Pieta house bashing" please.

You said you weren't going to contribute to them anymore

McMurphy

Nobotty wrote: »

You said you weren't going to contribute to them anymore

How in under jaysis is that Pieta house bashing?

I didn't put Regina on their board (which would be my sole reason for refusing to donate to them again)

Nobotty

McMurphy wrote: »

How in under jaysis is that Pieta house bashing?

I didn't put Regina on their board (which would be my sole reason for refusing to donate to them again)

I'm not interested in McMurphy bashing either but I think nobody should be discouraging supporting Pieta because of politics
I dont care if Pol pot is on that board
Well actually I do
But you know what I mean
I've no idea how vagina got on the board but she would have had to be proposed and seconded and voted in by the board if its like any voluntary board I've been on

Bishop of hope

McMurphy wrote: »

How in under jaysis is that Pieta house bashing?

I didn't put Regina on their board (which would be my sole reason for refusing to donate to them again)

Pretty bitter really.
Pieta does help a lot of people who need their support and I think using Regina Doherty against them is poor form.
You brought it up the other day, highlighted it and said you wouldn't donate to them because of it, that's expressing a view on a public forum where it could be construed as trying to put a message out agains the charity because you don't like a board member.
Would you not vote for a political party because you didn't like an individual in it even though you thought it was a good party, just to put it in context?

McMurphy

Nobotty wrote: »

I'm not interested in McMurphy bashing either but I think nobody should be discouraging supporting Pieta because of politics
I dont care if Pol pot is on that board
Well actually I do
But you know what I mean
I've no idea how vagina got on the board but she would have had to be proposed and seconded and voted in by the board if its like any voluntary board I've been on

Unsure if intentional or not. :pac:

I'm not discouraging anyone else from adopting the same stance as me, Regina's appointment to the board is baffling and stinks to me - hence why Pieta house is another charity I won't contribute to while failed politicians are shunted to their board.

Anyone else wants to contribute, that's their choice. You haven't pointed out any posts house bashing btw.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Leo Varadkar said today that "he didn't know Regina Doherty was on the board of Pieta"? house?

Considering the previous govts attitude to housing and homelessness in general, i can add them to the list of charities I completely refuse to contribute to.

McMurphy wrote: »

Quote the "Pieta house bashing" please.

You seem to suggest that Pieta House was a homeless charity.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

You seem to suggest that Pieta House was a homeless charity.

Maryanne, would you like me to quote yours and others in this thread defending govt homelessness records and using the "mental health" card in doing so?

Mental health and homelessness goes hand in hand.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Maryanne, would you like me to quote your defence of govt homelessness records and using the "mental health" card in doing so?

Mental health and homelessness goes hand in hand.

Simply pointing out how you seemed to suggest that Pieta House was a homeless charity when it’s a suicide support one. It may not have been what you meant, just pointing out that’s how it read.
I’m a director of a charity and don’t get a red cent for it. I do it for the love of what the charity does.

Nobotty

It was intentional!

Thank you for the clarification

I would urge everyone to continue to contribute to pieta events
It does very very important work
Cherished work

JohnnyFlash

Jesus Christ.

Any, Murph wanted someone to take him up on his bet. Turns out no member of the boards of trustees of a charity gets paid. That said, I'm going to make a donation to Pieta House anyway. Grim reading the last few pages tbh.

Bishop of hope

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

Any, Murph wanted someone to take him up on his bet. Turns out no member of the boards of trustees of a charity gets paid. That said, I'm going to make a donation to Pieta House anyway. Grim reading the last few pages tbh.

Super Johnny, absolutely delighted to see that and fair play to you.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Maryanne, would you like me to quote yours and others in this thread defending govt homelessness records and using the "mental health" card in doing so?

Mental health and homelessness goes hand in hand.

Deleted User wrote: »

Simply pointing out how you seemed to suggest that Pieta House was a homeless charity when it’s a suicide support one. It may not have been what you meant, just pointing out that’s how it read.
I’m a director of a charity and don’t get a red cent for it. I do it for the love of what the charity does.

I couldn't care less "how you read it" - if you or others don't believe I knew exactly what Pieta house worked with (considering this house took part in the darkness into light events on numerous occasions) that's on you.

Are you going to deny making numerous comparisons to homelessness and psychiatric disorders on this website, and excusing the government's responsibility for one, as a result of the other? Yes or no?

Bishop of hope

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Simply pointing out how you seemed to suggest that Pieta House was a homeless charity when it’s a suicide support one. It may not have been what you meant, just pointing out that’s how it read.
I’m a director of a charity and don’t get a red cent for it. I do it for the love of what the charity does.

Sinn féin are thin on charitable donations Maryanne, but taking advantage of mental illness may well be part of their mechanism.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonald-wont-commit-to-giving-to-charity-any-of-47m-gifted-to-sinn-fein-by-ill-man-38777266.html

McMurphy

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Sinn féin are thin on charitable donations Maryanne, but taking advantage of mental illness may well be part of their mechanism.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonald-wont-commit-to-giving-to-charity-any-of-47m-gifted-to-sinn-fein-by-ill-man-38777266.html

Sinn Fein again.

On the fine gael thread.

Just saying.

Bishop of hope

McMurphy wrote: »

Sinn Fein again.

On the fine gael thread.

Just saying.

I know, me too.

smurgen

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

Any, Murph wanted someone to take him up on his bet. Turns out no member of the boards of trustees of a charity gets paid. That said, I'm going to make a donation to Pieta House anyway. Grim reading the last few pages tbh.

You did or you're going to?

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

I couldn't care less "how you read it" - if you or others don't believe I knew exactly what Pieta house worked with (considering this house took part in the darkness into light events on numerous occasions) that's on you.

Are you going to deny making numerous comparisons to homelessness and psychiatric disorders on this website, and excusing the government's responsibility for one, as a result of the other? Yes or no?

Dude, you’ve lost the plot.

I take it that you weren’t associating two totally different charities. It’s easy to edit a post to reflect your meaning.

Bishop of hope

smurgen wrote: »

You did or you're going to?

For a lad that links so much stuff, can you not read?
It's a thanks for 150 euro.

McMurphy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

Any, Murph wanted someone to take him up on his bet. Turns out no member of the boards of trustees of a charity gets paid. That said, I'm going to make a donation to Pieta House anyway. Grim reading the last few pages tbh.

Fairplay Johnny - you should have taken me up on the bet. I'm still waiting on something from Regina however, I'll not give you a win on this just yet.

smurgen

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Sinn féin are thin on charitable donations Maryanne, but taking advantage of mental illness may well be part of their mechanism.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonald-wont-commit-to-giving-to-charity-any-of-47m-gifted-to-sinn-fein-by-ill-man-38777266.html

If FFG were serious about mental health would we need so many charities to plug the gap where government resources should be?

"The budgetary allocation of €50 million for mental health is just 1% of the overall health budget for 2021 and is “totally inadequate” to meet the growing demand for services and support a new mental health strategy, the Psychiatric Nurses Association (PNA) has said"

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40065236.html

JohnnyFlash

McMurphy wrote: »

Fairplay Johnny - you should have taken me up on the bet. I'm still waiting on something from Regina however, I'll not give you a win on this just yet.

I did take you up on the bet.



https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115188805&postcount=1931


Do what you like. You hate FG and Regina Doherty so much you were prepared to make a political football out of a fúcking suicide prevention charity.



As I said, Jesus Christ.

smurgen

Bishop of hope wrote: »

For a lad that links so much stuff, can you not read?
It's a thanks for 150 euro.

He said he was going to. That would indicate it was done yet. Maybe it's a mistake on his side. Fair play to him though if it was just a typo and not a lie.

McMurphy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I did take you up on the bet.



https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115188805&postcount=1931


Do what you like. You hate FG and Regina Doherty so much you were prepared to make a political football out of a fúcking suicide prevention charity.



As I said, Jesus Christ.

Whoever thought it was a cute idea plonking a failed business owner, and a failed political figure onto the board of that charity made it "a political football"

That's not on me I'm afraid.