FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

smurgen

smurgen wrote: »

What's to stop it from happening again?

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1352229849054801920?s=19

I’m not sure what your point is? Stop what from happening?

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m not sure what your point is? Stop what from happening?

Probably no point Mary, just horse up some Twitter scrape.

smurgen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’m not sure what your point is? Stop what from happening?

The next wave of coronavirus and the next lockdown required to flatten that wave.

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m not sure what your point is? Stop what from happening?

It is very difficult to understand obscure Twitter links enhanced only by soundbites.

Coherence and logic get thrown out the window when we rely on Twitter.

Brendan Bendar

blanch152 wrote: »

It is very difficult to understand obscure Twitter links enhanced only by soundbites.

Coherence and logic get thrown out the window when we rely on Twitter.

Mainly inhabited by crazies and chancers, Blanch

you are quite right

smurgen

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Mainly inhabited by crazies and chancers, Blanch

you are quite right

You're right Brendi. Some cretins on it. For example Fine Gael TD's

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1293663127809204233?s=19

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1326978069546987522?s=19

smurgen

smurgen wrote: »

You're right Brendi. Some cretins on it. For example Fine Gael TD's

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1293663127809204233?s=19

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1326978069546987522?s=19

Ah sorry I left out Joesepha Madigan who in the last hour deleted this tweet. Three major gaffes in a week from her.

https://twitter.com/lindaosull88/status/1353423831487176706?s=19

James Brown

So keeping people in hotels was impossible. Couldn't be done. You were foolish to even suggest it....now LV says, 'its not ruled out'.
At least they're consistent in being inconsistent.
Be funny if people weren't dying.

smurgen

James Brown wrote: »

So keeping people in hotels was impossible. Couldn't be done. You were foolish to even suggest it....now LV says, 'its not ruled out'.
At least they're consistent in being inconsistent.
Be funny if people weren't dying.

I love the hotel quarantine for a least a year line without any explanation. If only there was a length of time between nothing and a year. It's like a threat. You want better so here's the misery.

FrancieBrady

smurgen wrote: »

I love the hotel quarantine for a least a year line without any explanation. If only there was a length of time between nothing and a year. It's like a threat. You want better so here's the misery.

It was almost like how you would try to frighten a child rather than convince with common sense not to do something.

blanch152

James Brown wrote: »

So keeping people in hotels was impossible. Couldn't be done. You were foolish to even suggest it....now LV says, 'its not ruled out'.
At least they're consistent in being inconsistent.
Be funny if people weren't dying.

It couldn't be done at the level of travel that is happening, that remains the position.

Banning people from travelling to their dying relatives abroad or refusing people to come home to see their dying mother are the sort of things that will have to be done in order to impose such a quarantine. That is the type of cruelty that the likes of SF and SDs are willing to impose.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

It couldn't be done at the level of travel that is happening, that remains the position.

Banning people from travelling to their dying relatives abroad or refusing people to come home to see their dying mother are the sort of things that will have to be done in order to impose such a quarantine. That is the type of cruelty that the likes of SF and SDs are willing to impose.

People not being able to see their dying mothers is a story that can be told over and over again blanch. I am going to a funeral today where some of the children won't be there because they are abroad. Was atone last week and the wife of the deceased wasn't able to go.

Cruelty you say?

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

People not being able to see their dying mothers is a story that can be told over and over again blanch. I am going to a funeral today where some of the children won't be there because they are abroad. Was atone last week and the wife of the deceased wasn't able to go.

Cruelty you say?

Banning it is a step above where we are, if that is what you favour, own it.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Banning it is a step above where we are, if that is what you favour, own it.

People haven't been allowed to see dying relatives all over the country blanch. It's a pandemic, sarcrifices have been made.

McMurphy

James Brown wrote: »

So keeping people in hotels was impossible. Couldn't be done. You were foolish to even suggest it....now LV says, 'its not ruled out'.
At least they're consistent in being inconsistent.
Be funny if people weren't dying.

Sounds familiar tbh.

Wasn't there a heap of things meaning Irish water "couldn't possibly function without"?

Pps numbers, capped charges, allowances etc etc.

All u-turned on, and all turned out to be spurious statements anyway, as according to some on this site - "Irish water is merrily operating away in the background", without any of that stuff that meant "it couldn't work without" initially.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

this is same government thats able to hole people up in direct provision for years on end

...and Micheál standing in the Dáil promising that institionalised abuse will 'never be allowed to happen again'. :rolleyes:

FrancieBrady

Very hard to see anything other than - they are making it up as they go'.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aoifegracemoore/status/1353983989820874752

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Very hard to see anything other than - they are making it up as they go'.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aoifegracemoore/status/1353983989820874752

Yes, twitterati at their best. If someone in government didn’t say it, then just say they did and other gullible twitters will retweet or even post it on Boards.
Similarly for posters claiming such and such is definitely happening elsewhere, when they’ve only just decided to discuss such and such.

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, twitterati at their best. If someone in government didn’t say it, then just say they did and other gullible twitters will retweet or even post it on Boards.
Similarly for posters claiming such and such is definitely happening elsewhere, when they’ve only just decided to discuss such and such.

Boards, particularly this forum, is plagued by posters posting Twitter links with one-line throwaway comments that are little better than propaganda, noise and conspiracy theory.

Fann Linn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes, twitterati at their best. If someone in government didn’t say it, then just say they did and other gullible twitters will retweet or even post it on Boards.
Similarly for posters claiming such and such is definitely happening elsewhere, when they’ve only just decided to discuss such and such.

You do know Eamonn Ryan is in govt?

CarProblem

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, twitterati at their best. If someone in government didn’t say it, then just say they did and other gullible twitters will retweet or even post it on Boards.
Similarly for posters claiming such and such is definitely happening elsewhere, when they’ve only just decided to discuss such and such.

But Varadkar did say last night (on Claire Byrne Live) that if the government introduced mandatory quarantine summer holidays and having relatives visit for Xmas would be "off the agenda". Like it or not twitter is a means used to provide news, even by RTE, The IT etc. Here's the link - apologies it's from twitter (which you probably don't like as it doesn't tell you what you want to hear)

https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1353840921981415424?s=20

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, twitterati at their best. If someone in government didn’t say it, then just say they did and other gullible twitters will retweet or even post it on Boards.
Similarly for posters claiming such and such is definitely happening elsewhere, when they’ve only just decided to discuss such and such.

I listened to Leo say it last night on Clare Byrne.

However he warned if this was to happen, people would not be able to go on summer holidays abroad or see loved ones next Christmas.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/tanaiste-mandatory-quarantine-not-ruled-out-but-if-brought-in-will-probably-be-for-a-year-40010937.html

And Ryan also made his comment:

https://www.newstalk.com/news/foreign-holidays-unlikely-for-most-people-this-summer-ryan-1140659

CarProblem

Worth posting this comment from another thread

Fann Linn wrote: »

Seems to be a pattern now of govt supporters either shooting the messenger or shooting the media it's relayed through purely because they don't like the message.

Twitter doesn't seem to be a medium people want to listen to, are links to other (non Twitter) sources rubbishing the government ok?

FrancieBrady

CarProblem wrote: »

Worth posting this comment from another thread



Twitter doesn't seem to be a medium people want to listen to, are links to other (non Twitter) sources rubbishing the government ok?

Aoife Moore is the journalist who broke the Leo the Leak story, so probably a bit of bitterness there. Comical Ali levels of denial going on when verified statements are being waved away.

CarProblem

CarProblem wrote: »

But Varadkar did say last night (on Claire Byrne Live) that if the government introduced mandatory quarantine summer holidays and having relatives visit for Xmas would be "off the agenda". Like it or not twitter is a means used to provide news, even by RTE, The IT etc. Here's the link - apologies it's from twitter (which you probably don't like as it doesn't tell you what you want to hear)

https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1353840921981415424?s=20

You omitted the word “Probably”. Not the same as a definite “off the agenda”.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

It couldn't be done at the level of travel that is happening, that remains the position.

Banning people from travelling to their dying relatives abroad or refusing people to come home to see their dying mother are the sort of things that will have to be done in order to impose such a quarantine. That is the type of cruelty that the likes of SF and SDs are willing to impose.

No need for the amateur dramatics. Exemptions can be made obviously.

I think leaving covid cluster meat packing plants open is crueler.

blanch152 wrote: »

Banning it is a step above where we are, if that is what you favour, own it.

So now not being allowed go to a funeral is wrong?
It depends on who's getting buried I imagine? Pick one side of the argument and as you say, own it.

smurgen

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Aoife Moore is the journalist who broke the Leo the Leak story, so probably a bit of bitterness there. Comical Ali levels of denial going on when verified statements are being waved away.

I really don't know what Leo's appearance was for at all? He done nothing to reassure the general public and always used the proposition of restrictions on arrival so stoked fear of more severe lockdowns. Kind of reminded me of Joesepha Madigan's radio one appearance a few weeks back. Badly briefed again.

Fann Linn

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Aoife Moore is the journalist who broke the Leo the Leak story, so probably a bit of bitterness there. Comical Ali levels of denial going on when verified statements are being waved away.

And the irony of all of this is that FG HQ will trawl through opposition TDs Twitter, FB and other social media accounts.

blanch152

CarProblem wrote: »

Worth posting this comment from another thread



Twitter doesn't seem to be a medium people want to listen to, are links to other (non Twitter) sources rubbishing the government ok?

Twitter is unreliable, that is known.

What more needs to be said?

James Brown

Twitter is merely a medium to communicate.

Anyhoo...

Irish Times:

If such a measure was introduced it would be likely to last for most of the year, as such dramatic public health measures were hard to reverse.

It might create even greater restrictions on foreign travel and could mean that people would not be able to travel for reasons such as job interviews, education, or to attend family funerals. It might also affect supply chains.

Dishonestly trying to make it sound worse than it may need be.
Ireland will be in and out of lockdown for sometime if the flip flopping doesn't stop.
He's now also cool with folk going to funerals.

Then he gets all typical Shinner...

“I would be against that,” he said, regarding fully closing the Border. “We are not one state on this island, but we are one country.”

One hundred years after partition, “I wouldn’t like us to be the ones to do that.”