Aaron Brady Guilty as charged

Gregor Samsa

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Are yous not the least bit concerned,with the lack of physical evidence or that he deosnt fit the eye withness description of the shooter??

The evidence presented, discussed and challenged over 122 days convinced 11 members of the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the killer.

Until the time a compelling legal argument can sway a court of appeal, that’s 100% good enough for me.

Spanish Eyes

Deleted User wrote: »

Are yous not the least bit concerned,with the lack of physical evidence or that he deosnt fit the eye withness description of the shooter??

Nope, I trust the legal system, the courts, the judge's direction, the jury, the evidence etc. It took people like you a couple of hours to try and get people to think about the verdict, but the trial lasted over 100 days. And there was witness intimidation too. Typical for associates up that neck of the woods.

Why are you so concerned? Do you challenge every murder verdict because of what you perceive is lack of evidence?

There might be an agenda going on here for the Crossmaglen One and his as yet free cronies.

Edgware

Deleted User wrote: »

Are yous not the least bit concerned,with the lack of physical evidence or that he deosnt fit the eye withness description of the shooter??

Not a bit. Read the case. There's plenty of evidence on which the jury was satisfied. Only problem is that he has already fathered a child. Hope fully the child won't grow up a dirtbird like Daddy.

Gregor Samsa

I think after the jurors read about the scandalous amount witness intimidation that was revealed today, they’ll be even more convinced that they came to the right conclusion. It beggars belief.

It says something for the impartiality of the justice system that this information was kept from them so as not to sway their decision, and the case was tried solely on the totality of the large amount of evidence regarding the events that occurred.

cameramonkey

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Nope, I trust the legal system, the courts, the judge's direction, the jury, the evidence etc. It took people like you a couple of hours to try and get people to think about the verdict, but the trial lasted over 100 days. And there was witness intimidation too. Typical for associates up that neck of the woods.

Why are you so concerned? Do you challenge every murder verdict because of what you perceive is lack of evidence?

There might be an agenda going on here for the Crossmaglen One and his as yet free cronies.

What do you think the agenda here is? I think you are being a touch conspiratorial.

Beechwoodspark

Work colleague based up that way and who would be on the grape vine up there told me this evening that Aaron Bradys whole family all have a very bad name which is saying something for “bandit country”

Irishman80

Irishman80 wrote: »

You seem more worried about a post on boards.ie that got the court wrong rather than the absolute ****b-g gang who executed a guard and then had their ****b-g family and ****b-g friends threaten and intimidate witnesses at the trial.

All part of the same brigade - the sh-tbag brigade.

No, I care about somebody that routinely enters discussions and disseminates false information.

Boards.ie is a very large website in Ireland and demonstrable lies must be called out immediately.

Gregor Samsa

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes i do challenge murder convictions,where there is no evidence


There is simply no physical evidence,he shot that gaurd (and eyewitness testimony to suggest he didnt).....quite why someone pointing this out equates to having an agenda is beyond me

The lack of physical evidence is inconsequential. It may have made the investigation easier and the trial shorter, but to a conviction is not unsound simply because of the lack of it.

And to say that there was no evidence is, yet again, to irrationally dismiss the plain fact that a large amount of evidence was submitted to and argued about during the trial. And that this evidence was regarded by the jury - who actually were present for it all, unlike any of us - to be of sufficient quality and volume to cause them to believe, beyond even a reasonable doubt, that he did it.

JingleJangle69 entered into this discussion with his well known agenda. He tried to carry on his usual shtick and ridicule Sinn Féin but anyone following the case, even at a distance, knew that the case was being heard in the Central Criminal Court.

That is a demonstrable lie. There is no mistaking it.

When you come across such a lie, it must be addressed.

xvril

I am not saying he is innocent but in my eyes there is reasonable doubt. He sounds like hes missing a brain cell or two.

Like how could you mistake someone of 5 ft 7 for being at least 6 foot.

tayto lover

cameramonkey wrote: »

So only those with an in-depth knowledge should question the verdict or else you think they have questionable motives?


A man who is 5cfoot 7 is convicted of a murder when the main witness a Garda and other witnesses describe the shooter as 6 foot tall. The main evidence against him seems to be statements he allegedly made incrimination himself to a man. This man may or may not have made a deal to stay in the US on the back of his statements. You don't have to be an expert to see that the evidence in this case is wafer thin.

You’re too late.
The trial is over.
That was all put forward by Brady’s defence already.
It was a very dark stormy night and the Garda who said that was having a gun pointed at his head. Easy to be mistaken in those circumstances.

They got the right man and everyone around this area of N. Louth and S. Armagh knows it. Not many tears being shed for Brady, believe me. Tramp of the highest order. Now convicted cold blooded murderer.

Conall Cernach

xvril wrote: »

I am not saying he is innocent but in my eyes there is reasonable doubt. He sounds like hes missing a brain cell or two.

Like how could you mistake someone of 5 ft 7 for being at least 6 foot.

A shotgun might make an attacker appear larger in the mind of the person it is being pointed at. Some psychological thing, maybe.


In other words, I dunno.

JP Liz V1

White lighting wrote: »

That's the minimum he can get.

What's the max?

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes i do challenge murder convictions,where there is no evidence


There is simply no physical evidence,he shot that gaurd (and eyewitness testimony to suggest he didnt).....quite why someone pointing this out equates to having an agenda is beyond me



Your only responsible for your own actions in life,to my view he is not the shooter (or severe doubts lie over it) and thus not responsible for this murder....may be a complete scumbag/lier,but a poor character,deosnt equuate to being a murderer

At least wait for prime time on rte

mr_fegelien

How did Brady think going to America would place him outside the arm of reach from Irish law enforcement. Did he not know about a little thing called extradition treaties?

He should have gone to Russia.

Gregor Samsa

xvril wrote: »

I am not saying he is innocent but in my eyes there is reasonable doubt. He sounds like hes missing a brain cell or two.

Like how could you mistake someone of 5 ft 7 for being at least 6 foot.

Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. People see things very differently when they’re in stressful situations, such as having a gun pointed at them after seeing someone else else fatally shot right in front of them.

Concentrating on this one point as read in a newspaper article may convince you that the conviction is unsound. But again, as I keep repeating, you have not had the benefit of hearing the totality of evidence and all the arguments that the jury did.

White lighting

mr_fegelien wrote: »

How did Brady think going to America would place him outside the arm of reach from Irish law enforcement. Did he not know about a little thing called extradition treaties?

He should have gone to Russia.

He would have been safe enough in America if he could keep his mouth shut.

xvril

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. People see things very differently when they’re in stressful situations, such as having a gun pointed at them after seeing someone else else fatally shot right in front of them.

Concentrating on this one point as read in a newspaper article may convince you that the conviction is unsound. But again, as I keep repeating, you have not had the benefit of hearing the totality of evidence and all the arguments that the jury did.

That is true, maybe I am missing some key detail.

Mr Cahill's testimony is super sketchy as well. It would make me think he has something to hide.

timthumbni

Wonder will there be a push for a kiddies play park to be named in honour of the convicted “man” in his home turf?

His alibi that he was diesel smuggling/ washing/ sludge dumping at the time just about sums up the area tbh.

He sounds a lovely character indeed judging by the reports. A great loss to society.

tayto lover

xvril wrote: »

That is true, maybe I am missing some key detail.

Mr Cahill's testimony is super sketchy as well. It would make me think he has something to hide.

CT Forum ————————->

walshb

Delighted with this result...

Now, keep going. This was a team effort. Go get the others and put them down!!!

xvril

tayto lover wrote: »

CT Forum ————————->

Supporting dissident republicans and being pictured with a murderer are not too traits I would find good in a witness. And his strange situation in the US.

The thing about telling Garda in New York must have been a lie as well.

Ash.J.Williams

tayto lover wrote: »

CT Forum ————————->

There is odd goings on with Cahill and immigration

Ash.J.Williams

Can’t wait til suspect B is reeled in

Truthvader

Interestingly there is a lot of hints here that he is connected to the Sinn Fein /IRA good republican / very nice man club but not a single shred of anything concrete. Even the Independent aren't running with it. Strangely all the Sinn Fein posters have come steaming in here to question the verdict. Wonder why. Is it just the usual anti Garda Sinn Fein impulse or is there some other reason why they want to support him. Anyone actually know what is going on and why?

Millionaire only not

timthumbni wrote: »

Wonder will there be a push for a kiddies play park to be named in honour of the convicted “man” in his home turf?

His alibi that he was diesel smuggling/ washing/ sludge dumping at the time just about sums up the area tbh.

He sounds a lovely character indeed judging by the reports. A great loss to society.

Wash him in diesel we know the rest after that , scum bag hope he feels every day in prison is eternity.

xvril

Truthvader wrote: »

Interestingly there is a lot of hints here that he is connected to the Sinn Fein /IRA good republican / very nice man club but not a single shred of anything concrete. Even the Independent aren't running with it. Strangely all the Sinn Fein posters have come steaming in here to question the verdict. Wonder why. Is it just the usual anti Garda Sinn Fein impulse or is there some other reason why they want to support him. Anyone actually know what is going on and why?

Or maybe some of the details are a bit strange

Millionaire only not

mr_fegelien wrote: »

An honest question for people here,

if you were one of the suspects yet to be brought to trial and were facing 40+ years, would you off yourself? I think I'd buy potassium cyanide or methanol/ethylene glycol and just kill myself.

I've never gotten how criminals are given bail and don't take the opportunity to end their life when they know they're facing a potentially long time.

Then again, many of these crooks aren't the brightest tools in the toolshed.

Because there big men with there guns but haven’t the balls to use them on there self to save us and the state minding them for rest of there useless lives .

Colonel Claptrap

xvril wrote: »

Like how could you mistake someone of 5 ft 7 for being at least 6 foot.

"We will f***ing kill you, don't move, I will shoot you".

Imagine somebody screamed this at you, moments after shooting your colleague in the face with a shotgun.

Reckon you could recall his height?

I'm just back from a restaurant. Haven't a clue how tall the waiter was.

Ten of Swords

mr_fegelien drop the repeated suicide insinuations right now if you want to keep posting in this thread