Aaron Brady Guilty as charged

amadangomor

Apologies if already discussed but what were the scum thinking by robbing the money when they knew it was being escorted by armed Guards?

The arrogance levels must have been off the charts.

gailforecast

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not sure it's fair or correct to make a geographic issue beyond the obvious fact that many border communities seem to be very willing to protect common scum

there is plenty of historical reasons for that but no justification for it at all anymore beyond hardman republican posturing and a "poor us" narrative the likes of which can be seen in the scandalous activities surrounding the ex quinn holdings

whether the community protection for these activities is driven by loyalty, ethos, interest or fear its becoming ever more clear that its something that the law and order interests of the state need to do a lot more about

sweetheart policing of border thugs has to stop

Garda Tony Golden was also killed by some provo knacker from Armagh in 2015, they’re nothing but thugs, criminals and should be put down like the rabid dogs they are.

Raffo69

Millionaire only not wrote: »

The provos call the shots on who does what up there , and collect there percentage. The ira had the power to put an end to this a long time ago but they prove how there hatred of law and order is allowed to run .
I hope they jail all the scum bags connected to this , reading about this case it’s only started the Gardai have it in for them and rightly so .
The ira had a point of not putting Brady to sleep ,?either it was to exhaust Gardaí time or see how far the hands of the law could go .
There learning fast intimidation is not working anymore.
I hope it’s the start of keeping the scum together behind bars throw in plenty ******s and phaedophiles with them as they have plenty of them in there precious organisation.

The provos call no shots up there at all. Don't be taking the writings of Paul Williams and the like as gospel. They probably have their own scams going on but other criminal gangs in the area do their own thing without the need for "permission".

Edgware

Hope hardman Brady had a restful night and was up early for his porridge

Millionaire only not

Raffo69 wrote: »

The provos call no shots up there at all. Don't be taking the writings of Paul Williams and the like as gospel. They probably have their own scams going on but other criminal gangs in the area do their own thing without the need for "permission".

U have little knowledge, if they tell them piss **** or jump off a cliff . Ira are stuck in everyone dodge business up and down the country .
Taking there cut , sur don’t our own Mary Lou contribute to there (their) cause . Up the slab

amadangomor

Edgware wrote: »

Hope hardman Brady had a restful night and was up early for his porridge

I'm a law abiding citizen and I get up early to eat my porridge and go to work

Feck it need to find a way to retire early:pac:

Raffo69

Millionaire only not wrote: »

U have little knowledge, if they tell them piss **** or jump off a cliff . Ira are stuck in everyone dodge business up and down the country .
Taking there cut , sur don’t our own Mary Lou contribute to there (their) cause . Up the slab

If you believe that you would believe anything. They aren't as feared as they once where. Far from it.

Ash.J.Williams

Millionaire only not wrote: »

U have little knowledge, if they tell them piss **** or jump off a cliff . Ira are stuck in everyone dodge business up and down the country .
Taking there cut , sur don’t our own Mary Lou contribute to there (their) cause . Up the slab

No “they’re” not

Ash.J.Williams

40 years in jail for promising a chick he’d buy her a car

Millionaire only not

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

No “they’re” not

Oh yes they do , ask violet Anne who paid her bills . Leper never changes its spots
Who gives a Fuc anyway there all scum sf , ira and the Brady gang

Irish_peppa

Im curious after being convicted and knowing he will spend most of his life now behind bars "(his best years)" . Could he make an approach or a plea deal and say Ill tell you EVERYTHING all the names of the other guys down to the planning who did what, down to the last detail. So he hands his other accomplices over on a platter. Could he expect any time off or is it too late? If he had offered to become a supergrass BEFORE his conviction might he of got a reduced sentence? I know the accomplices also went to the states but couldnt they be got back also.

"Rather than solving their money woes, Brady and his alleged accomplices would flee within weeks to America and Australia to escape the clutches of gardaí"

Ash.J.Williams

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Oh yes they do , ask violet Anne who paid her bills . Leper never changes its spots
Who gives a Fuc anyway there all scum sf , ira and the Brady gang

Leopard

There are vaccines and cures for forms of leprosy so it is actually possible for a leper to change his/her spots, or at least lose them entirely

Ash.J.Williams

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Im curious after being convicted and knowing he will spend most of his life now behind bars "(his best years)" . Could he make an approach or a plea deal and say Ill tell you EVERYTHING all the names of the other guys down to the planning who did what, down to the last detail. So he hands his other accomplices over on a platter. Could he expect any time off or is it too late? If he had offered to become a supergrass BEFORE his conviction might he of got a reduced sentence? I know the accomplices also went to the states but couldnt they be got back also.

"Rather than solving their money woes, Brady and his alleged accomplices would flee within weeks to America and Australia to escape the clutches of gardaí"

I think it’s too late , best he could have done was forget the diesel story, admit the robbery and deny the shooting, he’d be out in no time. Instead he made himself front and centre

Hodors Appletart

So this innocent man who had nothing to do with killing a Garda, while he was on trial witnesses were intimidated on social media, others were scared off from testifying and yet another was actually intimidated while giving video evidence to the court. The judge called one incident the worst example of contempt of court he'd ever seen.

Yes, of course this would all happen for an innocent man.

You'd wonder what kind of organisation, in this country, would have the means and wherewithal to organise all of that witness tampering. And you'd further wonder what kind of organisation has people right out of the traps on the day of the verdict to start spreading mistruths, planting seeds and outright questioning 100+ days of evidence presented to a jury that took 20+ hours to come to that verdict.

Conall Cernach

gailforecast wrote: »

Garda Tony Golden was also killed by some provo knacker from Armagh in 2015, they’re nothing but thugs, criminals and should be put down like the rabid dogs they are.

Crevan Mackin who murdered Garda Golden was not a member of any "republican" group never mind the Provos. He was a space cadet who liked to claim to be in various groups but when he was arrested and demanded to be housed with republican prisoners in Portlaoise he was refused because he was not a member of any of the groups in there. All the groups denied he was a member long before the murder. He was suspected by them of being a state agent who was trying to gather information which was why he tried to get in with everyone.

Gregor Samsa

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Im curious after being convicted and knowing he will spend most of his life now behind bars "(his best years)" . Could he make an approach or a plea deal and say Ill tell you EVERYTHING all the names of the other guys down to the planning who did what, down to the last detail. So he hands his other accomplices over on a platter. Could he expect any time off or is it too late? If he had offered to become a supergrass BEFORE his conviction might he of got a reduced sentence? I know the accomplices also went to the states but couldnt they be got back also.

He has the conviction and the 40 year sentence is manditory so there's nothing he can do now.

The main one the State wanted to get was the shooter himself, and they got him. Even if he had admitted to everthing, he didn't have a strong enough hand to play to do himself any favours. They can concentrate on getting the others now too, but even if they don't, they have the guy who pulled the trigger behind bars, and that's justice done.

only thing i cant help wondering was why he pulled the trigger

senseless in every way

Ash.J.Williams

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only thing i cant help wondering was why he pulled the trigger

senseless in every way

Head shot too

Hodors Appletart

Deleted User wrote: »

only thing i cant help wondering was why he pulled the trigger

senseless in every way

brainless you mean

he's obviously not the sharpest spanner in the toolbox

running around new york saying he's killed a garda what a complete moron

Ash.J.Williams

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

brainless you mean

he's obviously not the sharpest spanner in the toolbox

running around new york saying he's killed a garda what a complete moron

No master criminal

Sunny Disposition

He seems very stupid.
If he had not moved to an Irish community in New York he'd probably have got away with it. If he'd not gone out getting drunk and boasted about murdering a guard he'd still have been alright too.
His father s a physiotherapist and was chairman of Crossmaglen, so presumably he's respected in that area and fairly intelligent. The son was obviously completely wild and dangerous for a number of years.
After seeing here that his Facebook account is open I took a look at it, fairly chilling that everything on it wasn't untypical for a young fella, despite him being a degenerate murderer.

Larsso30

Garda donoughue didn't even have time to reach for his own weapon, warnings not to move sounds like it came after the shooting. Cold blooded execution.

People saying there is no evidence, there is plenty. The accused failure to account for his whereabouts didn't help, nor did him changing his story over and over.


Lack of physical evidence does not mean no evidence and there would of been far more witness testimonials if not for the intimidation of the witnesses.

Bradys failure to keep his own mouth shut contributed to his own downfall. 40 years is more than reasonable. As many have said, he should of held his hands up for the robbery and deny the shooting, may of seen DPP take that

Ash.J.Williams

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

brainless you mean

he's obviously not the sharpest spanner in the toolbox

running around new york saying he's killed a garda what a complete moron

He even referred to himself in the 3rd person

his father hardly thought his son was a model citizen, robbing cars, handling firearms and laundering diesel with party houses and whatnot.

if he was a respected man about the town that says a lot about the town imo

Sunny Disposition

Crossmaglen is a small village, not that unlike where I'm from a couple of hundred miles away. The people here never faced the British army (in living memory) or RUC so the area here is much more stable, but up there it seems like fuel laundering is no big deal at all, even robberies and motoring offences seem to be taken way less seriously. In one of the reports it says that a guy didn't report finding a burned out car for a few days, because it wasn't seen as very unusual.
It strikes me that the nationalist/republican areas of the north haven't fully recovered from the breakdown in trust in law during the Troubles.

NIMAN

There is definitely a certain level of lawlessness that is tolerated or seen as OK, thats for sure.

Ash.J.Williams

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Crossmaglen is a small village, not that unlike where I'm from a couple of hundred miles away. The people here never faced the British army (in living memory) or RUC so the area here is much more stable, but up there it seems like fuel laundering is no big deal at all, even robberies and motoring offences seem to be taken way less seriously. In one of the reports it says that a guy didn't report finding a burned out car for a few days, because it wasn't seen as very unusual.
It strikes me that the nationalist/republican areas of the north haven't fully recovered from the breakdown in trust in law during the Troubles.

The gaa in Crossmaglen faced the British army regularly

Larsso30

Larsso30 wrote: »

As many have said, he should of held his hands up for the robbery and deny the shooting, may of seen DPP take that

Instead Aaron bemoaned the effect on the relationship with his partner and other woes all this persecution had on him.

Ash.J.Williams

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The gaa in Crossmaglen faced the British army regularly

take the checkpoints and the goals will come?

Infernal Racket

I'd imagine the Guards in Dundalk know exactly who the rest of the gang are. Aaron Brady was the ultimate test case for the courts and the Guards and justice system prevailed. Be a lot of nervous gang members not sleeping so well for the foreseeable I reckon.